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    You're going to be sobbing into a pillow in 557 days, aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    You're going to be sobbing into a pillow in 557 days, aren't you?
    The Republicans lost the House in the 2018 Interims - the polls indicate that they are on track to lose the Senate and the White House in 2020!

    With a "loose canon" like Trump in the Oval Office, all the Democrats need do is continue their steady stream of criticism directed at this President and he will "self-destruct" - taking the Republicans down with him!

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    At the time of Trumpís inauguration, conversely, (there were) about 2 million more people unemployed than job openings. In February (the most recent month for which the data is available) there were nearly 900,000 more job openings that people unemployed. Now thatís a Capitalist Comeback. -- SOURCE ARTICLE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimiel View Post
    At the time of Trump’s inauguration, conversely, (there were) about 2 million more people unemployed than job openings. In February (the most recent month for which the data is available) there were nearly 900,000 more job openings that people unemployed. Now that’s a Capitalist Comeback. -- SOURCE ARTICLE
    That number may be true according to current government unemployment statistics, but it does not reflect the true number of those who cannot find jobs. The true unemployment numbers, figured the way the government used to figure them back in the 70s or 80s is more than 20% unemployment. Here is a link to a site where the economic numbers are figured the way the government used to figure for many decades. What we get now from government statisics does not reflect reality at all.

    The economist who runs this site has the old formulas the government used for a long time and the charts he gives on the page I linked to reflect the changes the government has made to decieve us as to the real state of our economy and our nation. As you will see from the charts the government is a long ways away from being truthful with us.

    http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    That number may be true according to current government unemployment statistics, but it does not reflect the true number of those who cannot find jobs. The true unemployment numbers, figured the way the government used to figure them back in the 70s or 80s is more than 20% unemployment. Here is a link to a site where the economic numbers are figured the way the government used to figure for many decades. What we get now from government statisics does not reflect reality at all.

    The economist who runs this site has the old formulas the government used for a long time and the charts he gives on the page I linked to reflect the changes the government has made to decieve us as to the real state of our economy and our nation. As you will see from the charts the government is a long ways away from being truthful with us.

    http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data

    I think you mean people who are employable, not people "who cannot find jobs".

    It is true that many people have stopped looking for jobs and they are not counted. But those who decide to start looking again ARE counted, which is why sometimes you will see a tiny tick up in unemployment even when there is big job creation.

    So you have a small point in there, but you are not quite correct. If people decided to stop looking for jobs then that's on them. And counting people who are employable but not looking is not a fair representation either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumpTrainCA View Post
    I think you mean people who are employable, not people "who cannot find jobs".

    It is true that many people have stopped looking for jobs and they are not counted. But those who decide to start looking again ARE counted, which is why sometimes you will see a tiny tick up in unemployment even when there is big job creation.

    So you have a small point in there, but you are not quite correct. If people decided to stop looking for jobs then that's on them. And counting people who are employable but not looking is not a fair representation either.
    Actually the government has redefined how they figure the unemployment numbers several times during the last few decades. Back in the 70s if you worked part time you were not considered fully employed and were counted in the unemployment numbers. Now if you work part time you're considered employed the way the government now figures the numbers. Since part time jobs have been by far the most numerous jobs created since the end GWBs administration if they were still counted that would add a lot to the unemployment numbers. Years ago self-employed people who lost their business were also considered unemployed. Also before 1994 discouraged workers, i.e. long term unemployed workers, were counted among the unemployed.

    There is an economist who works with large corporations who keeps track of the changes in how the government keeps track of economic statistics now and how they did it in the past. His name is John Williams and he is a highly regarded expert. His website url is: http://www.shadowstats.com/

    Here is the unemployment chart from his website.



    Here is the GDP chart from his website.



    Here is the chart for his GDP numbers.



    These three charts and two more on money supply and dollar indices can be found at the following link. http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumpTrainCA View Post
    People like this Rusha person are clueless to the evil that her candidates truly represent. The Dems are on a quest for one party rule and a socialist nation. That is partly why they want illegals pouring in here, and why they want DC and P. Rico statehood.
    No, they are wicked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikefaumuina View Post
    No, they are wicked.


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    Frankly , I would vote for a pile of manure put up by the Democrats over Trump . Worst. President. Ever . And the pile of manure would still smell better than Trump .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    Frankly , I would vote for a pile of manure put up by the Democrats ....
    no, i doubt hillary is going to run again

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    Frankly , I would vote for a pile of manure put up by the Democrats over Trump . Worst. President. Ever . And the pile of manure would still smell better than Trump .
    Lest we forget, the GOP is complicit in all of the evil actions and corruptions coming from this administration. At this point, any candidate who is running as a Republican is a candidate I will vote against as well as encouraging my RL friends to vote against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Who do you want to be President in 2020?
    Someone not named Trump or Pence.

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    It's gonna be trump

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