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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Lay out what you think the gospel is and then we'll compare to the message shared by Peter in Acts 2.
    Quit changing the issue. Quit playing games.

    Show where Peter PREACHED THE CROSS as GOOD NEWS in Acts 1-5.... if you don't even know what that means, you have problems.

    "Mentioning" the cross as a MURDER WEAPON is NOT good news.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Quit changing the issue. Quit playing games.

    Show where Peter PREACHED THE CROSS as GOOD NEWS in Acts 1-5.... if you don't even know what that means, you have problems.

    "Mentioning" the cross as a MURDER WEAPON is NOT good news.
    This isn't a game: put forth what you think the gospel is. If Peter teaches the same, regardless of whether or not he happens to use the term gospel in the passage, he is preaching the same gospel.
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    This isn't a game: put forth what you think the gospel is. If Peter teaches the same, regardless of whether or not he happens to use the term gospel in the passage, he is preaching the same gospel.
    You are trying tilt the playing field in your favor. I'm not going to play your game.

    Show us all where Peter (or anyone else) preached the CROSS AS GOOD NEWS anywhere in Act 1-5.

    Since you have refused to do that on multiple occasions, it is clear to all that you cannot.
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    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    You are trying tilt the playing field in your favor. I'm not going to play your game.

    Show us all where Peter (or anyone else) preached the CROSS AS GOOD NEWS anywhere in Act 1-5.

    Since you have refused to do that on multiple occasions, it is clear to all that you cannot.
    Ha! You are afraid of being shown to be wrong so you won't even lay out the Gospel message. To say the least, you are approaching these debates with the wrong spirit. Winning should be getting at the truth, not upholding your doctrine.

    At any rate, my point stands: if Peter teaches the same things that are in the gospel, then Peter is teaching the gospel. The explicit usage of the term "gospel" is irrelevant. A rose by any other name, as it were.
    Last edited by csuguy; April 7th, 2019 at 05:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Ha! You are afraid of being shown to be wrong so you won't even lay out the Gospel message. To say the least, you are approaching these debates with the wrong spirit. Winning should be getting at the truth, not upholding your doctrine.
    You still cannot find it. Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    At any rate, my point stands: if Peter teaches the same things that are in the gospel, then Peter is teaching the gospel. The explicit usage of the term "gospel" is irrelevant. A rose by any other name, as it were.
    I was not asking for a "term".

    Peter did not preach the cross as good news in Act 1-5. You've been asked many times to show it, but you cannot.

    All of your bluff and bluster didn't help you. You try to change the rules.... etc. etc. etc.

    Your myths are busted, but you will just continue to spout them anyway.
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    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    You still cannot find it. Got it.
    Too afraid of answering, lest you "tilt the playing field in your favor"

    I was not asking for a "term".

    Peter did not preach the cross as good news in Act 1-5. You've been asked many times to show it, but you cannot.

    All of your bluff and bluster didn't help you. You try to change the rules.... etc. etc. etc.

    Your myths are busted, but you will just continue to spout them anyway.
    I provided you such a passage where Peter preached the cross. If you can recognize it as the gospel, then you are blind.
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Too afraid of answering, lest you "tilt the playing field in your favor"
    Just show us where Peter (or anyone else) preached the CROSS AS GOOD NEWS anywhere in Act 1-5.

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    I provided you such a passage where Peter preached the cross. If you can recognize it as the gospel, then you are blind.
    Peter preached the cross as BAD NEWS.... as a MURDER WEAPON..... your complete lack of understanding is amazing.

    You can continue to dodge... it's the only thing that you have.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Just show us where Peter (or anyone else) preached the CROSS AS GOOD NEWS anywhere in Act 1-5.
    Again, the presence or absence of the term "gospel" is irrelevant. If Peter taught the contents of the gospel then he is teaching the gospel. End of story.

    Peter preached the cross as BAD NEWS.... as a MURDER WEAPON..... your complete lack of understanding is amazing.

    You can continue to dodge... it's the only thing that you have.
    The cross was used to kill the Lord. Paul doesn't teach any different. Whether this is good news or bad news is in the eyes of the beholder. Both Peter and Paul taught it as good news - for it is through Christ's death that we have forgiveness of sins, reconciliation with God, eternal life, etc.

    1 Corinthians 1:20-24 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Again, the presence or absence of the term "gospel" is irrelevant. If Peter taught the contents of the gospel then he is teaching the gospel. End of story.
    I'm not asking for the "term". Once again you try to distract. End of Story

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    The cross was used to kill the Lord.
    No kidding.

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Paul doesn't teach any different.
    Paul preached the CROSS as GOOD NEWS. Peter did NOT do this in Act 1-5!

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Whether this is good news or bad news is in the eyes of the beholder.
    Lame equivocation.

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Both Peter and Paul taught it as good news - for it is through Christ's death that we have forgiveness of sins, reconciliation with God, eternal life, etc.
    1 Corinthians 1:20-24 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
    Then why is this GOOD NEWS of the CROSS completely absent in Act 1-5?

    We ALL know that Paul preached, so that does not change a thing.

    YOU need to show where Peter preached the CROSS AS GOOD NEWS before Paul comes along.

    The truth is that Acts 1-5 is a continuation of the prophetic program for Israel.
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    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    This conversation is going nowhere. I've put forth scripture that shows Peter preaching the cross. The presence or absence of the term gospel (good news) is irrelevant. You can refuse to acknowledge such a simple and obvious truth all day long - you only make yourself look a fool
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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