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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Both the disciples and Paul preached of Christ's sacrifice, of the forgiveness of sin through Christ, of eternal life, etc. You are failing to find any differences here (since they don't exist).
    Please show us anywhere in Acts 1-5 that Peter preached the cross per Paul.
    That the cross was GOOD NEWS!
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    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Please show us anywhere in Acts 1-5 that Peter preached the cross per Paul.
    That the cross was GOOD NEWS!
    I've already supplied references where Peter preaches of Christ and the cross. For instance:

    Acts 2:22-24 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[d] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Since you still do not know what the gospel of the kingdom is, there is no use going any further.
    There's no going forward because there is nothing to substantiate your position. If there were any scripture to substantiate your non-sense of many distinct gospels you could have easily provided it by now.
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    I've already supplied references where Peter preaches of Christ and the cross. For instance:

    Acts 2:22-24 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[d] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
    That is NOT the preaching of the cross as GOOD NEWS! Try again and put some effort this time.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    There's no going forward because there is nothing to substantiate your position.
    Another false claim by you. It's all that you have.

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    If there were any scripture to substantiate your non-sense of many distinct gospels you could have easily provided it by now.
    Once again, the gospel of the kingdom is taught throughout the law and the prophets and you have not a single clue what it means.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    That is NOT the preaching of the cross as GOOD NEWS! Try again and put some effort this time.
    LMAO. First you all assert that Peter and the disciples didn't preach the cross - now you assert that if their preaching isn't explicitly noted as the Gospel that it doesn't count.

    No - it is quite clear that Acts 2 is Peter and the disciples sharing the Gospel to the people at the Pentecost. You are simply being stupid at this point.
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Another false claim by you. It's all that you have.


    Once again, the gospel of the kingdom is taught throughout the law and the prophets and you have not a single clue what it means.
    You can find references to the one gospel, and one alone. That's because there is only one gospel.
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    LMAO. First you all assert that Peter and the disciples didn't preach the cross - now you assert that if their preaching isn't explicitly noted as the Gospel that it doesn't count.
    As per liars like yourself, you attempt to CHANGE what I said. I did NOT say that there is "no mention of the cross" in Acts 1-5. I said that you CANNOT find the cross preached AS PER PAUL... as GOOD NEWS in Acts 1-5.

    It is preached as BAD NEWS.... as a murder weapon. And those that made it happen as murderers.

    So go ahead and show us THE GOOD NEWS of the CROSS in Acts 1-5. We'll wait....

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    No - it is quite clear that Acts 2 is Peter and the disciples sharing the Gospel to the people at the Pentecost. You are simply being stupid at this point.
    The stupidity is all yours.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    You can find references to the one gospel, and one alone. That's because there is only one gospel.
    Sure... just keep claiming victory. You sound a lot like the flat earthers.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
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    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

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    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    As per liars like yourself, you attempt to CHANGE what I said. I did NOT say that there is "no mention of the cross" in Acts 1-5. I said that you CANNOT find the cross preached AS PER PAUL... as GOOD NEWS in Acts 1-5.

    It is preached as BAD NEWS.... as a murder weapon. And those that made it happen as murderers.

    So go ahead and show us THE GOOD NEWS of the CROSS in Acts 1-5. We'll wait....


    The stupidity is all yours.
    If you read Peter's speech in Acts 2 and you can't recognize that he is sharing the Gospel, you are truly lost.

    Matthew 13:13-15 This is why I speak to them in parables:

    “Though seeing, they do not see;
    though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

    14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:

    “‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
    you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
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    For this people’s heart has become calloused;
    they hardly hear with their ears,
    and they have closed their eyes.
    Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
    hear with their ears,
    understand with their hearts
    and turn, and I would heal them.’
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    If you read Peter's speech in Acts 2 and you can't recognize that he is sharing the Gospel, you are truly lost.
    Instead of DODGING... simply show us where Peter (or anyone else) preached the GOOD NEWS OF THE CROSS anywhere in Acts 1-5.

    This should be so simple based on what you've been telling us.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
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    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    That the gospels are not identical does not mean that the conflict in any way.
    That there are differences should be obvious to all.
    But Churchianity wants to make them identical at the cost of truth.

    Have you ever read any of my other posts on this site?
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    I am confused about all this conflict stuff...If you mean that Peter and Paul preached differing gospels (Peter the gospel of the circumcision....Paul the gospel of the uncircumcision) but they each allowed the other to have their separate ministries and knew each was approved by God as were their gospels then I AGREE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Instead of DODGING... simply show us where Peter (or anyone else) preached the GOOD NEWS OF THE CROSS anywhere in Acts 1-5.

    This should be so simple based on what you've been telling us.
    Already done so. Again, if you can't recognize the Good News laid out by Peter in Acts 2 - you are simply blind and don't know what the Gospel is. If you did, you'd know that Peter was sharing the Gospel. It isn't the term "gospel" which is important, which is merely a term to encapsulate the message of Christ, but the content thereof. If they preached the message, it is the same gospel - regardless of them using the term "gospel." Here we seem they preaching of the cross. End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Already done so.
    No you didn't. You can claim that you did, but you didn't. So many like you use this childish tactic.

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    Again, if you can't recognize the Good News laid out by Peter in Acts 2 - you are simply blind and don't know what the Gospel is.
    You can continue to make these EMPTY claims all day long. I'm still... we are ALL still... waiting for YOU to show us where Peter (or anyone else) preaches the CROSS AS GOOD NEWS in Act 1-5.

    You continue to move the goal posts time and time again. We can all see this.

    Quote Originally Posted by csuguy View Post
    If you did, you'd know that Peter was sharing the Gospel. It isn't the term "gospel" which is important, which is merely a term to encapsulate the message of Christ, but the content thereof. If they preached the message, it is the same gospel - regardless of them using the term "gospel." Here we seem they preaching of the cross. End of story.
    "End of story"... is typical when someone has NO actual argument and must appear superior.

    Put up or shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    "End of story"... is typical when someone has NO actual argument and must appear superior.

    Put up or shut up.
    Lay out what you think the gospel is and then we'll compare to the message shared by Peter in Acts 2.
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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