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    Hillary Clinton Benghazi "Investigation"
    4 years
    0 indictments
    0 convictions

    Hillary Clinton Email "Investigation"
    2 years
    0 indictments
    0 convictions

    Trump-Russia Investigation
    15 months
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    3 Indictments/Charges (Companies)
    5 GUILTY pleas (and counting) 4 CONVICTIONS (and counting)
    Indicted: Roger Stone
    Indicted: Paul Manafort
    Indicted: Rick Gates
    Indicted: George Papadopoulos
    Indicted: Michael Flynn
    Indicted: Michael Cohen
    Indicted: Richard Pinedo
    Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan
    Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
    Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers
    Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin
    Indicted: Mikhail Burchik
    Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova
    Indicted: Anna Bogacheva
    Indicted: Sergey Polozov
    Indicted: Maria Bovda
    Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov
    Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev
    Indicted: Irina Kaverzina
    Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko
    Indicted: Internet Research Agency
    Indicted: Concord Management
    Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn
    Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen
    Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous
    Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo
    Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan
    Guilty Plea: Rick Gates
    Over 191 Criminal Charges (and counting):
    Conspiracy against the USA (2 counts)
    Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)
    Bank fraud (8 counts)
    Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)
    Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
    Making false statements (6 counts)
    Failure to file reports of foreign bank accounts (14 counts)
    Unregistered agent of a foreign principal (2 counts)
    False FARA statements (2 counts)
    Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
    Assisting in preparation of false tax documents (5 counts)
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States (13 counts)
    Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (2 counts)
    Aggravated identity theft (24 counts)

    This investigation has shown deep and pernicious covert connections between Russian government officials, Trump lieutenants and high level Republican campaign officials
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    Quote Originally Posted by exminister View Post
    Trump-Russia Investigation, 34 Indictments.
    How many of those were from collusion with Russia?
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    How many will lead to trump's impeachment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Apparently, Mueller handed a lot of stuff off to the state AG, which would prevent any corrupt person from issuing pardons.

    Further, he handed off a number of other leads to other investigators, such as the Inauguration Committee slush fund.

    Politics, punditry and human nature being as they are, the late-Friday news that special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s final report has been transmitted to the attorney general (and will be described in summary form to Congress very soon) has spurred a frenzy of speculation, and the first of many leaks (credible and otherwise). The most prominent detail is that Mueller isn’t recommending any additional indictments in his probe of possible collusion with Russia by the Trump campaign or obstruction of justice by the president himself.

    If that is true, you can be sure that the president and his allies will gloat that even Robert Mueller admits that his investigation was a witch hunt producing nothing but fresh evidence that the president has been unjustly persecuted by rogue elements in the FBI and the Justice Department.

    ust because Mueller considers a certain batch of evidence not grounds for a prosecution on his own motion doesn’t mean it might not create future legal and political jeopardy for Trump. Other prosecutors pursuing other angles could pick up on his findings. And to the extent the Justice Department doubts a sitting president can be indicted at all, the report could provide evidence that will sit, ticking like a time bomb, until he leaves office.

    Michael Cohen’s conviction for campaign finance violations is a potentially direct threat given Cohen’s allegations about the president’s personal involvement in hush payment to women with explosive charges of adultery against Trump that surfaced in 2016.

    But separate federal investigations of Trump’s business dealings by the staff of the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York are even more potentially deadly, and they involve matters well beyond the scope of the Mueller investigation, as Politico reported last month:

    Manhattan-based federal prosecutors can challenge Trump in ways Mueller can’t. They have jurisdiction over the president’s political operation and businesses — subjects that aren’t protected by executive privilege, a tool Trump is considering invoking to block portions of Mueller’s report. From a PR perspective, Trump has been unable to run the same playbook on SDNY that he’s used to erode conservatives’ faith in Mueller, the former George W. Bush-appointed FBI director. Legal circles are also buzzing over whether SDNY might buck DOJ guidance and seek to indict a sitting president.


    The threat was highlighted when SDNY prosecutors ordered officials from Trump’s inaugural committee to hand over donor and financial records. It was the latest aggressive move from an office that has launched investigations into the president’s company, former lawyer and campaign finance practices. New York prosecutors have even implicated Trump in a crime.

    Add it all up and the result is a spate of hard-to-stymie, legally perilous probes that appears on track to drag on well into Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign. SDNY stands poised to carry on Mueller’s efforts whenever the special counsel’s office closes shop

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...er-report.html

    The U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan and other investigators also are reportedly investigating Trump's 2017 inaugural committee, looking to establish whether it may have broken the law by, among other ways, raising money from foreigners.
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/23/70169...ump-will-go-on

    So, even if Meuller's got no more than six Trump underlings, he's done a good job. But this is just the end of his particular investigation.

    Here's a pretty good summary of the Trump-related criminal investigations still proceeding:
    https://www.vox.com/2019/3/20/182418...state-congress
    LOL!!!!! The state of New York answers to the government in Washington. Or didn't you know? If Washington wants to stick its nose in New Yorks business, they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    How many will lead to trump's impeachment?
    zip, zilch, zero!
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    How many of those were from collusion with Russia?
    zip, zilch, zero!
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exminister View Post
    Hillary Clinton Benghazi "Investigation"
    4 years
    0 indictments
    0 convictions

    Hillary Clinton Email "Investigation"
    2 years
    0 indictments
    0 convictions

    Trump-Russia Investigation
    15 months
    34 Indictments/Charges (Individuals) (and counting)
    3 Indictments/Charges (Companies)
    5 GUILTY pleas (and counting) 4 CONVICTIONS (and counting)
    Indicted: Roger Stone
    Indicted: Paul Manafort
    Indicted: Rick Gates
    Indicted: George Papadopoulos
    Indicted: Michael Flynn
    Indicted: Michael Cohen
    Indicted: Richard Pinedo
    Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan
    Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
    Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers
    Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin
    Indicted: Mikhail Burchik
    Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova
    Indicted: Anna Bogacheva
    Indicted: Sergey Polozov
    Indicted: Maria Bovda
    Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov
    Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev
    Indicted: Irina Kaverzina
    Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko
    Indicted: Internet Research Agency
    Indicted: Concord Management
    Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn
    Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen
    Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous
    Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo
    Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan
    Guilty Plea: Rick Gates
    Over 191 Criminal Charges (and counting):
    Conspiracy against the USA (2 counts)
    Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)
    Bank fraud (8 counts)
    Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)
    Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
    Making false statements (6 counts)
    Failure to file reports of foreign bank accounts (14 counts)
    Unregistered agent of a foreign principal (2 counts)
    False FARA statements (2 counts)
    Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
    Assisting in preparation of false tax documents (5 counts)
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States (13 counts)
    Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (2 counts)
    Aggravated identity theft (24 counts)

    This investigation has shown deep and pernicious covert connections between Russian government officials, Trump lieutenants and high level Republican campaign officials
    Then I should expect you to be just as irate at the US government meddling in other countries affairs in the same manner....
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    The Robert Mueller investigation which monopolized political discourse for two years has finally concluded, and his anxiously awaited report has been submitted to Attorney General William Barr. The results are in and the debate is over: those advancing the conspiracy theory that the Kremlin has infiltrated the highest levels of the US government were wrong, and those of us voicing skepticism of this were right.

    The contents of the report are still secret, but CNN’s Justice Department reporter Laura Jarrett has told us all we need to know, tweeting, “Special Counsel Mueller is not recommending ANY further indictments am told.” On top of that, William Barr said in a letter to congressional leaders that there has been no obstruction of Mueller’s investigation by Justice Department officials.

    So that’s it, then. A completely unhindered investigation has failed to convict a single American of any kind of conspiracy with the Russian government, and no further indictments are coming. The political/media class which sold rank-and-file Americans on the lie that the Mueller investigation was going to bring down this presidency were liars and frauds, and none of the goalpost-moving that I am sure is already beginning to happen will change that.

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    It has been obvious from the very beginning that the Maddow Muppets were being sold a lie. In 2017 I wrote an article titled “How We Can Be Certain That Mueller Won’t Prove Trump-Russia Collusion”, saying that Mueller would continue finding evidence of corruption “since corruption is to DC insiders as water is to fish”, but he will not find evidence of collusion. If you care to take a scroll through the angry comments on that article, just on Medium alone, you will see a frozen snapshot of what the expectations were from mainstream liberals at the time. They had swallowed the Russiagate narrative hook, line and sinker, and they believed that the Mueller investigation was going to vindicate them. It did not.

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    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    I’ve been saying Russiagate is b.s. from the beginning, and I’ve been called a Trump shill, a Kremlin propagandist, a Nazi and a troll every day for saying so by credulous mass media-consuming dupes who drank the Kool Aid. And I’ve only taken a fraction of the flack more high profile Russiagate skeptics like Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracey have been getting for expressing doubt in the Gospel According to Maddow. The insane, maniacal McCarthyite feeding frenzy that these people were plunged into by nonstop mass media propaganda drowned out the important voices who tried to argue that public energy was being sucked into Russia hysteria and used to manufacture support for dangerous cold war escalations with a nuclear superpower.

    Caitlin Johnstone
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Just think what we could have done with that energy over the last two years. Think how much public support could have been poured into the sweeping progressive reforms called for by the Sanders movement, for example, instead of constant demands for more sanctions and nuclear posturing against Russia. Think how much more attention could have been drawn to Trump’s actual horrific policies like his facilitation of Saudi butchery in Yemen or his regime change agendas in Iran and Venezuela, his support for ecocide and military expansionism and the barbarism of Jair Bolsonaro and Benjamin Netanyahu. Think how much more energy could have gone into beating back the Republicans in the midterms, reclaiming far more House seats and taking the Senate as well, gathering momentum for a presidential candidacy that truly threatens Trump instead of 9,000 primary candidates who will probably be selected by superdelegates after the first ballot when there’s too many of them to establish a clear majority under the new rules.

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    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Rachel Maddow, the lesbian retard?

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    We must never let them forget what they did or what they cost us all. We must never let mainstream Democrats forget how crazy they got, how much time and energy they wasted, how very, very wrong they were and how very, very right we were.

    Never stop reminding them of this. Never stop mocking them for it. Never stop mocking their idiotic Rachel Maddow worship. Never stop mocking the Robert Mueller prayer candles. Never stop making fun of the way they blamed all their problems on Susan Sarandon. Never stop reminding them of those stupid pink vagina hats. Never stop mocking them for elevating Louise Mensch and Eric Garland. Never stop mocking them for creating the Krassenstein brothers.

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    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Every politician, every media figure, every Twitter pundit and everyone who swallowed this moronic load of bull spunk has officially discredited themselves for life. Going forward, authority and credibility rests solely with those who kept clear eyes and clear heads during the mass media propaganda blitzkrieg, not with those who were stupid enough to believe what they were told about the behaviors of a noncompliant government in a post-Iraq invasion world. The people who steered us into two years of Russiagate insanity are the very last people anyone should ever listen to ever again when determining the future direction of our world.

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    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    And that from what I think is a Democrat.....Good for her...
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