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    Heb 10:21-22 . . Since we have “a great priest over the house of God,” let us approach with a sincere heart and in absolute trust, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed in pure water.

    Sprinkling was a common ritual in the Old Testament-- sometimes with water, sometimes with oil, and sometimes with blood --for example: Ex 29:16, Ex 29:21, Lev 14:7, Lev 14 16, and Num 8:7, et al.

    Sprinkling typically serves to de-contaminate someone or some thing in order to make it suitable for God's purposes. Well, in point of fact; none of the Old Testament's sprinklings served to cleanse people's conscience once and for all time. They had to keep bringing one sacrifice after another in a perpetual stream of sacrifices because each sacrifice cleansed their conscience just that one time instead of for all time.

    Heb 10:10-14 . . By this “will,” we have been consecrated through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Every priest stands daily at his ministry, offering frequently those same sacrifices that can never take away sins. But this one offered one sacrifice for sins, and took his seat forever at the right hand of God; now he waits until his enemies are made his footstool. For by one offering he has made perfect forever those who are being consecrated.

    So; then, what's the catch. Well, the catch is that in order to take advantage of this one-time sanitation that the letter to Hebrews speaks of, Catholics have to bypass their father confessors and go directly to Christ himself to obtain it.

    Heb 4:14-16 . .Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast to our confession. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has similarly been tested in every way, yet without sin. So let us confidently approach the throne of grace to receive mercy and to find grace for timely help.
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    Before somebody jumps in here with a quote from Ezek 36:25-27, I can save them the trouble by quickly pointing out that water is not the proper fluid for decontaminating the conscience spoken of in the 9th and 10th chapters of the letter to Hebrews. Not even close.
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    It would be futile to bathe one's body in Jesus' blood. That kind of decontamination would have no effect upon one's conscience as it's spoken of in the OP because this is not a physical issue, it's a heart issue; i.e. the core of one's being.

    And besides, the purification of one's conscience as per the letter to Hebrews is done by means of sprinkling rather than bathing. (Heb 10:22 cf. Heb 12:24)
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    The sprinkling of water in Ezekiel speaks of something very different than the sprinkling of blood in the letter to Hebrews.

    In addition, the sprinkling of water spoken of by Ezekiel is performed by God; the Catholic Church's baptisms are performed by humans.

    Just to be on the safe side: why not find a private spot and tell God, in your own words, that you'd like to have the sprinkling of water spoken of in Ezekiel, and also the sprinkling of blood spoken of in the letter to Hebrews?

    "For if the blood of goats and bulls and the sprinkling of a heifer's ashes can sanctify those who are defiled so that their flesh is cleansed, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works to worship the living God." (Heb 9:13-14)

    "The sprinkled blood that speaks more eloquently than that of Abel." (Heb 12:24)
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    Heb 9:13-14 . . For if the blood of goats and bulls and the sprinkling of a heifer’s ashes can sanctify those who are defiled so that their flesh is cleansed, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works to worship the living God.

    Basically; one's conscience is sort of like a moral compass, i.e. it provides people with a sense of right, wrong, fairness, and justice. The conscience not only provides people with some guidance in those areas, but it has the rather annoying propensity to sit in judgment on its owner.

    Rom 2:14-15 . . For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness, and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending themselves.

    In it's current condition; the human conscience is unacceptable, and that's because of its source. We have to go all the way back to the beginning for that.

    Gen 3:5 . . God knows well that when you eat of [the tree of the knowledge of good and evil] your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, who know good and evil.

    Was the Serpent's prediction true? Yes; to a certain extent.

    Gen 3:22 . .Then the Lord God said: See! The man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil!

    In other words; the Serpent neglected to inform Eve that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil has a side effect that alters people's conscience. But is the alteration an acceptable substitute for the people's original conscience; the one that came with them when they were created?

    No, because now people are "like one of us" i.e. like supreme beings.

    Ps 82:6 . .I said: You are gods

    Along with their ill-gotten supremacy as beings came their ill-gotten supremacy in matters of right, wrong, fairness, and justice. In other words; the current condition of the human conscience is unacceptable because it was obtained by eating the fruit of a tree known to be unsuitable for human consumption. As a result; the current condition of the human conscience is diseased; hence the need to sprinkle it, so to speak, with Jesus' blood.

    The sprinkling doesn't cure a human's diseased conscience. The sprinkling is actually for God's sake, i.e. it makes the human sense of right, wrong, fairness, and justice tolerable for God to endure whenever somebody approaches Him in prayer and/or worship. I don't think many fully appreciate that the human conscience is just as repulsive to God as a case of full-blown leprosy is to us.

    Anyway; In the Old Testament, it was necessary to sanitize the people's conscience each and every time they approached God; which back then meant either the Tabernacle or the Temple. But a sprinkling of Jesus' blood is necessary only once, and it's adequate for all time.
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    Christ's followers retain a guilty conscience; else the passage below would be unnecessary.

    "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar and His word has no place in our lives." (1 John 1:8-10)

    It appears to me that Christ's followers have two consciences: there's the conscience they obtained via their natural birth, and there's the conscience they obtained via the Spirit birth about which Christ spoke at John 3:3-12. The "born again" conscience i.e. the new man's conscience, is of course totally free of guilt.

    "No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1 John 3:9)

    One morning in Sunday school class several years ago, a man asked our speaker about the status of unconfessed sins? Do they follow us into the afterlife?

    Unfortunately the speaker ignored the man's question and continued with his lesson plan. But later at home I pondered that man's inquiry because it seemed to me something very important to think about.

    Well; as it turns out, the old man and the new man don't share a common conscience. By means of a mysterious procedure performed by the power of God, the new man is its own person distinctly separate from the old man.

    "In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ" (Col 2:11)

    So then, I think we can safely assume that when his followers' body of the flesh passes away, their natural-born conscience passes away right along with it, and they go into eternity with only their Spirit-born conscience, which of course is not responsible for the old man's sins. Neato!
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