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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Yup, you're full of it.
    I'm full of facts. You're full of......

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    I'm full of facts. You're full of......
    You're full of cut and paste posts and spamming new thread after new thread about your crush on Trump.
    If you call someone a liar and then have absolutely no evidence of said lie(s), that makes you full of it.

    So again, quote my lie(s). Take all the time you need
    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    You're full of cut and paste posts and spamming new thread after new thread about your crush on Trump.
    If you call someone a liar and then have absolutely no evidence of said lie(s), that makes you full of it.

    So again, quote my lie(s). Take all the time you need
    You mean RE-quote them? Because I quote them all the time and call them out. Don't waste my time. And please stop gumming up my thread with your off-topic sniveling

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    (skipping this slot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    You mean RE-quote them? Because I quote them all the time and call them out. Don't waste my time. And please stop gumming up my thread with your off-topic sniveling
    Quote me lying. Take all the time you need. You want to falsely accuse then don't when you get called out for it.

    You really should be thanking me. Most of your threads go absolutely nowhere with plenty getting not even a single reply. You need all the "gumming" you can get.
    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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    Pounce: Ocasio-Cortez botched the 'Green New Deal' rollout, so the New York Times went after Republicans
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...er-republicans

    It never fails. You can almost set your watch to it.

    If a Democrat does or says something incredibly, perhaps irredeemably, stupid or vicious, you can bet good money major newsrooms will ignore it for as long as it takes for their reporters to make the story about the supposed conservative overreaction. To be clear, the problem with the “Republicans pounce” trope isn’t merely that newsrooms report on the conservative reaction. Reaction articles are fine! The issue is that newsrooms often won’t touch a story that reflect poorly on Democrats at all until it can be made into something broader about how Republicans and conservatives are supposedly exploiting the moment.

    Call it the “Republicans pounce” or “Republicans seize” trope.

    This weekend, for example, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., lied about the rollout of her preposterous "Green New Deal,” which included the circulation of numerous “frequently asked questions” sheets.

    The FAQs pages from her office claimed, among other things, that the "GND" aims to lower fossil fuel emissions to “net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast.” The FAQs also boasted that the House resolution would provide “economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work.” Neither cow farts nor “unwilling to work” are included in the actual resolution co-sponsored by more than 100 Democratic lawmakers.

    The FAQs were rightly ridiculed and mocked by critics, and even supporters, of Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal. But rather than own up to authoring the ludicrous documents, the congresswoman and her team initially denied all involvement, alleging instead a vast right-wing disinformation campaign
    .......(SNIP)

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    Stalin, Mao , Castro and Pol Pot were totalitarian dictators . There was nothing even remotely liberal about them . Totalitarian government is the exact opposite of liberalism . So is Trump's right-wing extremist fascism .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    Stalin, Mao , Castro and Pol Pot were totalitarian dictators...
    who embraced socialism and its crazy aunt locked in the attic, communism


    Totalitarian government is the exact opposite of liberalism .
    this thread is about AOC, who embraces socialism

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    'Stalin-like' Cover-up of Ocasio-Cortez's Green Stupidity

    - 'Stalin-like'

    - Stupidity

    - crazy aunt locked in the attic

    - communism

    - 1984 technique

    - as moderate as Hitler

    If "Ocasio-Cortez" and the "Green New Deal" were that far out of the political mainstream, why have conservatives decided to bring out the "heavy artillery" by resorting to a series of personal attacks - where is their faith that the American people will eventually come to the same conclusions without resorting to the "name calling" and "character assassination?"

    What we are witnessing reflects more on the unseemly behaviour of those condemning Ocasio-Cortez/Green New Deal, than their intended targets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    If "Ocasio-Cortez" and the "Green New Deal" were that far out of the political mainstream
    they are - even pelosi distanced herself from it

    i clipped the rest of your retarded whining

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    Stalin, Mao , Castro and Pol Pot were totalitarian dictators . There was nothing even remotely liberal about them . Totalitarian government is the exact opposite of liberalism .

    Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

    But what specifically established de facto socialism in Nazi Germany was the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936. These were imposed in response to the inflation of the money supply carried out by the regime from the time of its coming to power in early 1933. The Nazi regime inflated the money supply as the means of financing the vast increase in government spending required by its programs of public works, subsidies, and rearmament. The price and wage controls were imposed in response to the rise in prices that began to result from the inflation.

    As Mises showed, to cope with such unintended effects of its price controls, the government must either abolish the price controls or add further measures, namely, precisely the control over what is produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it is distributed, which I referred to earlier. The combination of price controls with this further set of controls constitutes the de facto socialization of the economic system. For it means that the government then exercises all of the substantive powers of ownership.

    This was the socialism instituted by the Nazis. And Mises calls it socialism on the German or Nazi pattern, in contrast to the more obvious socialism of the Soviets, which he calls socialism on the Russian or Bolshevik pattern.

    The requirements of enforcing a system of price and wage controls shed major light on the totalitarian nature of socialism — most obviously, of course, on that of the German or Nazi variant of socialism, but also on that of Soviet-style socialism as well.

    the requirements merely of enforcing price-control regulations is the adoption of essential features of a totalitarian state, namely, the establishment of the category of "economic crimes," in which the peaceful pursuit of material self-interest is treated as a criminal offense, and the establishment of a totalitarian police apparatus replete with spies and informers and the power of arbitrary arrest and imprisonment.

    Clearly, the enforcement of price controls requires a government similar to that of Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia, in which practically anyone might turn out to be a police spy and in which a secret police exists and has the power to arrest and imprison people. If the government is unwilling to go to such lengths, then, to that extent, its price controls prove unenforceable and simply break down.

    Every day of his life, the citizen of a socialist state must spend time in endless waiting lines. For him, the problems Americans experienced in the gasoline shortages of the 1970s are normal; only he does not experience them in relation to gasoline — for he does not own a car and has no hope of ever owning one — but in relation to simple items of clothing, to vegetables, even to bread. Even worse he is frequently forced to work at a job that is not of his choice and which he therefore must certainly hate.

    It follows that the rulers of a socialist state must live in terror of the people. By the logic of their actions and their teachings, the boiling, seething resentment of the people should well up and swallow them in an orgy of bloody vengeance. The rulers sense this, even if they do not admit it openly; and thus their major concern is always to keep the lid on the citizenry.

    socialism goes far beyond the mere lack of freedom of press and speech.

    A socialist government totally annihilates these freedoms. It turns the press and every public forum into a vehicle of hysterical propaganda in its own behalf, and it engages in the relentless persecution of everyone who dares to deviate by so much as an inch from its official party line.

    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post

    Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

    But what specifically established de facto socialism in Nazi Germany was the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936. These were imposed in response to the inflation of the money supply carried out by the regime from the time of its coming to power in early 1933. The Nazi regime inflated the money supply as the means of financing the vast increase in government spending required by its programs of public works, subsidies, and rearmament. The price and wage controls were imposed in response to the rise in prices that began to result from the inflation.

    As Mises showed, to cope with such unintended effects of its price controls, the government must either abolish the price controls or add further measures, namely, precisely the control over what is produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it is distributed, which I referred to earlier. The combination of price controls with this further set of controls constitutes the de facto socialization of the economic system. For it means that the government then exercises all of the substantive powers of ownership.

    This was the socialism instituted by the Nazis. And Mises calls it socialism on the German or Nazi pattern, in contrast to the more obvious socialism of the Soviets, which he calls socialism on the Russian or Bolshevik pattern.

    The requirements of enforcing a system of price and wage controls shed major light on the totalitarian nature of socialism — most obviously, of course, on that of the German or Nazi variant of socialism, but also on that of Soviet-style socialism as well.

    the requirements merely of enforcing price-control regulations is the adoption of essential features of a totalitarian state, namely, the establishment of the category of "economic crimes," in which the peaceful pursuit of material self-interest is treated as a criminal offense, and the establishment of a totalitarian police apparatus replete with spies and informers and the power of arbitrary arrest and imprisonment.

    Clearly, the enforcement of price controls requires a government similar to that of Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia, in which practically anyone might turn out to be a police spy and in which a secret police exists and has the power to arrest and imprison people. If the government is unwilling to go to such lengths, then, to that extent, its price controls prove unenforceable and simply break down.

    Every day of his life, the citizen of a socialist state must spend time in endless waiting lines. For him, the problems Americans experienced in the gasoline shortages of the 1970s are normal; only he does not experience them in relation to gasoline — for he does not own a car and has no hope of ever owning one — but in relation to simple items of clothing, to vegetables, even to bread. Even worse he is frequently forced to work at a job that is not of his choice and which he therefore must certainly hate.

    It follows that the rulers of a socialist state must live in terror of the people. By the logic of their actions and their teachings, the boiling, seething resentment of the people should well up and swallow them in an orgy of bloody vengeance. The rulers sense this, even if they do not admit it openly; and thus their major concern is always to keep the lid on the citizenry.

    socialism goes far beyond the mere lack of freedom of press and speech.

    A socialist government totally annihilates these freedoms. It turns the press and every public forum into a vehicle of hysterical propaganda in its own behalf, and it engages in the relentless persecution of everyone who dares to deviate by so much as an inch from its official party line.

    Mege-dittos

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