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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Here is the text of the resolution

    I am not fan of Ms. Ocasio-Cortez's economics but perhaps @CatholicCrusader or someone who has actually read this can point out where she recommends rebuilding every single building in America, phasing out air travel in 10 years and government jobs for everybody.

    That would be great

    I've also read claims that this resolution proposes eliminated nuclear energy. I don't see that after a cursory search either.

    Maybe people should read what is says instead of listening to pundits telling you what it says. This is akin to Pelosi's 'we have to pass the bill before we can find out what's in it'.

    Partisan buffoons on all sides of the isle these days.
    So I read the actual legislation and this is the only thing I found that would fit the list provided:


    (E) upgrading all existing buildings in the United States and building new buildings to achieve maximal energy efficiency, water efficiency, safety, affordability, comfort, and durability, including through electrification;



    The rest of the claims made in the thread so far seems to be massive and largely unjustified interpretations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    So I read the actual legislation and this is the only thing I found that would fit the list provided:


    (E) upgrading all existing buildings in the United States and building new buildings to achieve maximal energy efficiency, water efficiency, safety, affordability, comfort, and durability, including through electrification;



    The rest of the claims made in the thread so far seems to be massive and largely unjustified interpretations.
    would it be a massive and largely unjustified interpretation to assume they plan to rely heavily on wind and solar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    would it be a massive and largely unjustified interpretation to assume they plan to rely heavily on wind and solar?
    Not really. Though I agree with Wizard of Oz's views on Nuclear power as a clean energy source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    • Rebuild every single building in America
    • Phase out air travel in 10 years
    • Government jobs and health care for everybody
    • If we don’t have the money for it, no big deal, just print some


    Sound Crazy? Yes! It is also the Green New Deal that the Democrat presidential hopefuls signed onto. Yes, Liberals and Democrats are actually that stupid.
    The next "outrage" those crazy "Liberals and Democrats" might contemplate is the "stupid" idea of rewarding the nation's wealthiest individuals with a $1 trillion "tax cut" - despite having a prosperous economy and resorting to the use of "borrowed money!"

    OOPS - that's already been done!

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    The very idea of even considering the 'green new deal' is sheer folly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    Not really. Though I agree with Wizard of Oz's views on Nuclear power as a clean energy source.
    me too - that should be our focus until solar tech is developed to a higher degree, including energy storage schemes

    Quote Originally Posted by Aimiel View Post
    The very idea of even considering the 'green new deal' is sheer folly.
    it's pie in the sky thinking, which is always easier to do with someone else's money

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    We could build a monorail system to have a stop at every single door in the world, build houses for everyone, even if they don't feel like working and do it all with imaginary money, imaginary labor and imaginary technology... but only in a cartoon world where whatever you dream up is possible. With advancing technology we do improve our quality of life as time goes by, but this snowflake is just taking way too much for granted and not thinking about what they're proposing. How someone this daft ever got elected is a serious indictment against the American voter... which goes back to our broken education system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimiel View Post
    How someone this daft ever got elected is a serious indictment against the American voter...

    she's photogenic and speaks well - the same qualities that brought obama to the national eye - a shiny bauble to dangle in front of the easily distracted general public
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    Bozo the Clown could be POTUS if these boneheads were the majority in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Here is the text of the resolution

    I am not fan of Ms. Ocasio-Cortez's economics but perhaps @CatholicCrusader or someone who has actually read this can point out where she recommends rebuilding every single building in America,
    Page 7 line 16.
    Everyman is a voice in the dark.
    I II III IV

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    Just When you Thought Democrats Could not get any more STUPID

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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    There is absolutely nothing "crazy " or "stupid " about what the Democrats are proposing, and many of the claims cited here misconstrue their actual goals .
    Fossil fuel is not unlimited and it's also extremely harmful to the world . America and the world have got to find better alternatives, and the green alternative , while it may be difficult to implement, is a very good idea . Fossil fuel is responsible for the mass damage to the environment which exists today , and something MUST be done about pollution by sewage, toxic chemicals and discarded plastic refuse .
    There is a giant mass of discarded plastic refuse floating in the Pacific , and it is the size of TEXAS . The entire world is at grave risk of losing clean air, water and food , and America is a major contributor to the environmental problems plaguing the world .
    What I am saying here is neither conservative nor liberal, merely fact . Even if you don't believe in global warming, you SHOULD be very concerned about the catastrophic effects of toxic waste , chemicals etc on the world, including the US . The Republican party couldn't care less about these grave environmental problems , because the are a bunch of greedy , irresponsible idiots , and Trump is our greedy , irresponsible idiot-in-chief who has been deregulating absolutely essential laws regulating the environment for safety . The Republicans are in the pay of greedy,superrich and ruthless industrialists who are out for maximum profit and could not care about all the harm they are doing to the environment . All they want is maximum profits .
    America is the only major industrialized country in the world without universal health care . It's the only major industrialized country where you risk dying if you need medical care which is too expensive, and the only country where even if you aren't poor, you risk going bankrupt to get medical care . And the only country where you can lose your home if you lose your job .
    And we're the only major country where the cost of a university education is too high for most young people and there isn't enough financial aid . The only country where young people go into debt to pay for their college loans and are stuck with it many years after they graduate .
    We're the only country where wages are too low and the cost of living is too high . Something has got to be done about this ! We CAN solve these problems and if our government handled its finances right we COULD make college and health care affordable , as well as food and housing etc .
    People who equate this with "Marxism, socialism and communism " are totally uninformed .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Page 7 line 16.
    Upgrading =/= rebuilding
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Upgrading =/= rebuilding
    fool is a contractor - rebuilding doesn't mean "raze the existing structure and pour a new foundation"
    - it usually means "gut the interior and replace with new stuff"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    There is absolutely nothing "crazy " or "stupid " about what the Democrats are proposing, and many of the claims cited here misconstrue their actual goals .
    The very idea of thinking for one minute that what Ocasio-Cortez proposes is the LEAST bit worthy of even being considered is completely ridiculous.
    Fossil fuel is not unlimited and it's also extremely harmful to the world .
    If you have an alternative in mind, we're listening. All you've done so far is make it worse with the advent of electric cars which are far worse (so far) with the manufacturing processes and resources needed to charge them producing more pollution than their internal combustion counterparts.
    America and the world have got to find better alternatives, and the green alternative , while it may be difficult to implement, is a very good idea .
    On the surface it is a very good idea, indeed; but we simply don't have the technology yet to make use of solar or other clean energy to eliminate fossil fuels altogether.
    Fossil fuel is responsible for the mass damage to the environment which exists today , and something MUST be done about pollution by sewage, toxic chemicals and discarded plastic refuse .
    Indeed, fossil fuel is a contributing factor, but not responsible alone for what we've done to the environment. We're going to change sources of energy, but not overnight.
    There is a giant mass of discarded plastic refuse floating in the Pacific , and it is the size of TEXAS .
    Yup. It gets bigger every day.
    The entire world is at grave risk of losing clean air, water and food , and America is a major contributor to the environmental problems plaguing the world .
    I dare say we're one of the cleanest, per capita, in the world. There are countries who are far less responsible than the USA. We have more population than many countries and more of the population is actually working than most countries. We produce what the world needs. It makes pollution, though not as bad as countries that just dump everything right into the ground or water sources.
    What I am saying here is neither conservative nor liberal, merely fact .
    No, it's mostly opinion and that: not very educated. You're hypnotized by the media, obviously.
    Even if you don't believe in global warming, you SHOULD be very concerned about the catastrophic effects of toxic waste , chemicals etc on the world, including the US . The Republican party couldn't care less about these grave environmental problems , because the are a bunch of greedy , irresponsible idiots , and (President) Trump is our greedy , irresponsible (commander)-in-chief who has been deregulating absolutely essential laws regulating the environment for safety .
    The idea that he's made industries less safe is completely ridiculous. He's made our country a major player in the world market, as we should have been for the last 50 or so years. You haven't yet begun to see the effects of what he's doing, you're merely parroting your party line.
    The Republicans are in the pay of greedy, superrich and ruthless industrialists who are out for maximum profit and could not care about all the harm they are doing to the environment . All they want is maximum profits .
    Nonsense.
    America is the only major industrialized country in the world without universal health care .
    Is there a country that has centralized healthcare that really works?
    It's the only major industrialized country where you risk dying if you need medical care which is too expensive, and the only country where even if you aren't poor, you risk going bankrupt to get medical care .
    Obviously you don't realize that President Trump has enacted legislation that changed what you just hit on: the Affordable Care Act allows everyone access to the healthcare needed.
    And we're the only major country where the cost of a university education is too high for most young people and there isn't enough financial aid .
    There's more available in the USA than any other country. Most of what you've said in your whole post simply isn't true at all.
    The only country where young people go into debt to pay for their college loans and are stuck with it many years after they graduate .
    Well, the possibility to get an education is available to all, unlike most countries in the world.
    We're the only country where wages are too low and the cost of living is too high .
    Nonsense.
    Something has got to be done about this ! We CAN solve these problems and if our government handled its finances right we COULD make college and health care affordable , as well as food and housing etc . People who equate this with "Marxism, socialism and communism " are totally uninformed .
    Well, if it walks like a duck...
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