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    Are there any states that do not allow abortion through all nine months of pregnancy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    You need to remember that.
    "Saying it doesn't make it so" is one of JR's favorite things to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucifer View Post
    "Saying it doesn't make it so" is one of JR's favorite things to say.
    Luckily, he provides substance to back up his objections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Luckily, he provides substance to back up his objections.
    You misspelled 'presumptions'

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    Are there any states that do not allow abortion through all nine months of pregnancy?
    The vast majority of them do, but it doesn't matter because the context of the 'requirements' are both vague and open enough for a doctor to feel legally compelled to perform them either way. Most all women who want an abortion are for example mentally compromised and so it's necessary to terminate for their well being.

    Abortion isn't going away, basically. It's tattooed into the infrastructure of American values the same as anything else; to 'rollback' on it is an absurd fantasy. Not that I agree with abortion but that's just reality and people should rather put their energy into something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucifer View Post
    Abortion isn't going away.
    Of course it will.

    It's tattooed into the infrastructure of American values the same as anything else; to 'rollback' on it is an absurd fantasy.
    If this is true, then it also applies to slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Are there any states that do not allow abortion through all nine months of pregnancy?
    I think there are 30 states that don't.

    But, here's one for ya.

    New Jersey has the additional requirement that abortions must be performed in a hospital past 14 weeks.

    Meanwhile in New Jersey, lawmakers recently introduced a bill to prevent the slaughter of pregnant cows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    The last time I posted an image, I was reported and banned for a month for posting "spam!"
    I looked yours up....a bunch stats that were also considered "off topic".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucifer View Post
    "Saying it doesn't make it so" is one of JR's favorite things to say.


    Saying it doesn't make it so...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Of course it will.



    If this is true, then it also applies to slavery.
    you'll never abolish slavery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Of course it will.



    If this is true, then it also applies to slavery.
    >False dichotomy
    >False idea of how American rights work

    You know why it's pointless to repeal the 2nd Amendment? Because Scotus will nonetheless have to call self defense a natural right on the simple basis that it was ever deemed such in the first place. This is a sort of circular infallibility the Founders cleverly put into America's working, ensuring particularly that the Bill of Rights isn't going anywhere regardless.

    This is why trying to prohibit things that the Constitution allows is such a tricky and most often fruitless endeavor, and the matter with abortion doesn't even have enough swing to even reach Scotus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucifer View Post
    This is why trying to prohibit things that the Constitution allows ...


    the constitution doesn't allow women to murder their children

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I think there are 30 states that don't.
    Can you give an example?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crucifer View Post
    >False dichotomy.
    I don't think you know what you're talking about. I made a simple assertion. If you disagree with it, just say so.

    >False idea of how American rights work
    They work the same way rights in any other nation work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Can you give an example?
    Sorry, I just read that New York was the 20th state with like laws.

    Iowa is trying to outlaw at heartbeat.

    Many states set the date of viability at 26 or 28 weeks, but that "viability" age is going down all the time thanks to modern medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwimacahau View Post
    Oh? You are quite wrong. A child in utero is a foetus until birth AND there are quite a number of very good reasons why a third trimester foetus should be aborted.
    There is such a thing as a C-section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post


    the constitution doesn't allow women to murder their children
    You can't prohibit abortion without obstructing the Constitution.
    So
    it is by de facto a right.

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