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Thread: Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartman View Post
    You should try "searching the Scriptures" for "God the Son".
    I can save you the time ..... it's not there.

    I notice you didn't even TRY to provide any example of a Bible teacher explaining your "Jesus" to an audience .... again, it's no surprise .... since there are no examples.

    So, Paul's fearful warning to beware people teaching "another Jesus, whom we DID NOT PREACH" .... is clearly fulfilled.
    So what. Tuna fish isn't there either, but we know tuna fish exists.
    When Jesus declares that He is God, as He does in John 8, we must either believe Him or reject Him. You reject Him. I believe Him.
    The Jews attempted to kill Him because He declared He was God. It's right there.
    How's that crutch holding up for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartman View Post
    Of course.
    The holy spirit is God's spirit. God's thinking/mind and the power produced by God's mind. Christ conformed his spirit to his God's spirit. So, yes they think the same.
    'Spirits' are not just thoughts. Do you think angels are just thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    heathen
    Just fyi, "heathen" is a term that refers to polytheistic worship of Germanic and Norse gods and goddesses.

    I think you meant "pagan."

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    You see the problem with the law is it brings out legalism and judgmentalism.....
    Please deal with the text;

    John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him

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    Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
    So what. Tuna fish isn't there either, but we know tuna fish exists.
    So, you think tuna fish is of equal importance with your theory regarding Jesus as God?
    Your point is beyond silly.
    Just admit that you have ZERO texts that clearly, simply and directly state your theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by M
    When Jesus declares that He is God, as He does in John 8,
    Where???

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT View Post
    'Spirits' are not just thoughts.
    Of course not. As I have pointed out many times, there are SEVERAL definitions for "spirit". It depends on the context. Most of the times, in Scripture "spirit" is discussing thinking, attitude. Some times "spirit" means breath. Some times spirit means a being with a message, a messenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartman View Post
    So, you think tuna fish is required for salvation?
    Your point is beyond silly.
    Just admit that you have ZERO texts that clearly, simply and directly state your theory.


    Where???
    LOL, what a funny leap in thought.
    Dart, scripture has been shared. You reject it. That's your crutch. You are free to treat Jesus as less than what he is. You'll have to answer to him someday so I hope you can handle that moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Just fyi, "heathen" is a term that refers to polytheistic worship of Germanic and Norse gods and goddesses.

    I think you meant "pagan."
    Nope, I'm using it in the broader Biblical sense.

    Leviticus 26:45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the Lord.

    2 Chronicles 20:6 And said, O Lord God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

    Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartman View Post
    Of course not. As I have pointed out many times, there are SEVERAL definitions for "spirit". It depends on the context. Most of the times, in Scripture "spirit" is discussing thinking, attitude. Some times "spirit" means breath. Some times spirit means a being with a message, a messenger.
    So stop using the wrong definition every time I speak of God's Spirit and Jesus'.

    Now since you admit that spirits are more than just thoughts, tell me how the Father's Spirit and Jesus' Spirit live in the saved if they are not both God.

    Don't forget, we are only given one Spirit when we are saved, but we have the Father and Jesus when we receive the Holy Spirit.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Nope, I'm using it in the broader Biblical sense.

    Leviticus 26:45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the Lord.

    2 Chronicles 20:6 And said, O Lord God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?

    Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

    Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus is the Sabbath Rest.
    He is not the Sabbath day...

    There are no shadows in the light.
    if shadows are the sabbath and there are no shadows in light...so there is no rest in the light

    Jesus is the light.
    a light without rest/shadows

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    He is not the Sabbath day...
    The Sabbath is a Saturday.

    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    if shadows are the sabbath and there are no shadows in light...so there is no rest in the light
    Observing special days was a shadow of Jesus. Jesus has come and is light and there are no shadows in him.

    Observing special days is nothing when it comes to salvation.

    We are to observe Jesus all day every days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartman View Post
    Please deal with the text;

    John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him
    Simple, He was speaking to the Jews...to whom the commandments were given.

    It's paramount, when reading the Bible to understand what is being said, and to whom.

    Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


    HE IS RISEN....things are different.

    Now that He has risen from the dead, we no longer know him according to the flesh.

    2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

    Those commandments that you cling to were merely the schoolmaster that would bring us to Christ in order for us to be justified by FAITH....not commandment keeping.

    Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

    Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The Sabbath is a Saturday.
    There are more Sabbath days than just Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    There are more Sabbath days than just Saturday.
    All Sabbaths are about Jesus.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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