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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    an offshoot from here: http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5310442


    As the Nathan Phillips / Nate Sandmann controversy has developed, i've run across way too many leftist/liberal/feminist/progressive blogs, articles, websites, twitter feeds, etc - way too much social media and other internet based opinion centers that justify their naked hatred for these catholic kids - justify their desire to see them hurt, regardless of the veracity of the original story.

    One common theme is that these kids were at a pro-life rally, and the extreme leftist/liberal/feminist/progressives, from the relative anonymity of the internet, wish death on anybody with that viewpoint

    the other common theme that has taken the forefront these past couple days is their choice of apparel.

    MAGA hats, as it turns out, have the power to make the left (already insane) violently insane

    it's being proposed in the other thread that the students should have known this and should have respected the weakness of those easily triggered by the magical power of the MAGA hats and foregone their choice of apparel

    the corollary is, of course, that having made the choice to wear those pernicious MAGA hats, the violence and hatred directed toward them is their own fault
    So this sort of triggers you, huh?
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    “...MAGA hats, as it turns out, have the power to make the left (already insane) violently insane.”

    I would research the clinical statistics first.
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    MAGA Hats And The Easily-Triggered Left

    Apparently some of the profits generated from selling Trump paraphernalia, like the MAGA hats, have been siphoned off to pay for the legal bills of his son-in-law, Jared Kushner!

    Given that Kushner is a multimillionaire in his own right, this is just another example of average Americans subsidizing the rich and powerful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    MAGA Hats And The Easily-Triggered Left

    Apparently some of the profits generated from selling Trump paraphernalia, like the MAGA hats, have been siphoned off to pay for the legal bills of his son-in-law, Jared Kushner!

    Given that Kushner is a multimillionaire in his own right, this is just another example of average Americans subsidizing the rich and powerful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Like watching football games?
    have you noticed lately that jgarden and aikey have been eating the lead paint chips?

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    “...a revealing look at the diseased mind of the rabid leftist...”
    That line is just as ignorantly silly as posting:

    “...a revealing look at the diseased mind of the rabid conservative...”
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    Covington kid Nick Sandmann’s lawyer: ‘Nathan Phillips will be sued’


    One of the most disgusting phony propaganda gambits to discredit Trump supporters is to face the civil justice system, where the truth will come out. Most AT readers already know that a wide array of media and political figures have been put on notice that they will be sued for libel of Nick Sandmann, the parochial school kid who was approached by Indian “elder” Nathan Phillips, who drummed inches from his face. Based on edited video, Sandmann was vilified as the aggressor. But now comes word that in addition to media outlets, writers and politicians, Phillips himself will be sued.

    This is important not for the monetary damages at stake, because Phillips shows no signs of having any financial resources, but because he will be placed under oath and questioned, where he will have to face videotape evidence of his behavior, contrasted with what he has said to the media.

    Steve Jalsevac reports in Life Site News:

    One of the attorneys representing Covington High School student Nick Sandmann and his parents confirmed to LifeSiteNews that Native American activist Nathan Phillips, and some of the others who have received notices from the attorneys, “will be sued.”

    Lin Wood, an Atlanta-based lawyer, told LifeSite yesterday that Phillips’ “lies and false accusations” against Sandmann and the other Covington students are “well documented.”

    He also said they would be filing the first round of lawsuits "within two weeks."

    Getting Phillips on the record, facing perjury penalties if his testimony is contradicted by the video, will be of inestimable value in suing the media. He would be wise to consider apologizing if he has any assets at all that he might wish to protect from a monetary judgment. Because the lawyers choose the order in which to sue, they can get this on the record before proceeding with other targets, a group which is growing in number:

    The legal action by Sandmann’s attorneys is ramping up after notices demanding preservation of evidence for possible slander litigation were recently sent out to more than 50 media, dioceses, and celebrities.

    Wood told LifeSite that the list of recipients of the notices “continues to grow in number” and that the legal team is “in the process of sending formal written retraction demands in conformity with statutes in states in which litigation may be filed.” They expect to advance to the next stage and “file the first round of civil lawsuits within the next two weeks.”

    The media that will be sued have a serious vulnerability once Phillips is discredited:

    Most seemed to rely almost entirely on statements made by Phillips and especially on a short initial video posted on social media that went viral. The video appears to have been deliberately edited to portray the Covington students as accosting and disrespecting Phillips.

    The video was initially pushed through what has been revealed by Breitbart to be a likely Democrat activist controlled, anti-Trump fake Twitter account. It has since been suspended by Twitter for violating its fake account policy. Experts say the use of the account to so effectively promote the video had "the hallmarks of a disinformation campaign."

    ....

    Naturally, the media would prefer that this examination of their accuracy and bias just go away. But that will not happen, thanks to the civil justice system. Federal courts do not permit video cameras, but many state courts do.

    Video of Phillips being cross examined could turn into a sensational rebuke. And it could also demonstrate media deception and bias harming an innocent child.

    Much though they would prefer to ignore it, the existence of social media makes that a poor option, for spiking the story only would make them look worse. Keep in mind that journalists are one of the most unpopular groups in the country. Are juries going to sympathize with them, or with a boy who was unfairly demonized?


    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...l_be_sued.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    That line is ...
    from this post and is immediately followed by an opinion piece that clearly supports the language i used to describe it

    for example, the author's claim is that: "The students who went to D.C. were racist and malicious" and "they’re terrible people in need of condemnation" and he supports that claim with false statements and assumptions

    while arguably defensible in the first days of the controversy, this piece was written ten days after the controversy started, after phillips' claims had been debunked and the true narrative of the story had emerged


    just as ignorantly silly as posting:
    so go start a thread about conservatives and show me how to do it right

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    irrational hate dies hard:

    That’s Life: Up now, the gaslighting of America



    By now video of the confrontation at the Lincoln Memorial has been examined more closely than the Zapruder Film, and the gaslighting of America is complete. You really didn’t see what you saw.

    Sen. Kevin Cramer, in his ongoing inspirational battle against the First Amendment, encouraged lawsuits against the media for misinterpreting the video. “Those kids did nothing wrong,” he said on Fox News. “Zero.”

    Zero. It’s a good thing those kids are Catholic. Now they can become saints.

    What was baffling was the apology from the Diocese of Covington and the school. This is an institution that’s still trying to figure out if pedophilia is a problem in the priesthood, and yet they instantly conclude “this behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person.”

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that what the Diocese found objectionable were the tomahawk chops, the mocking Indian chants and dances, and the smirk on Nicholas Sandmann’s face as he stared down Nathan Phillips, a Native American activist who claimed he was trying to diffuse a standoff between some Black Hebrew Israelites, and what would be characterized as “a mob” if they were liberals.

    Curiously, several days later, the Diocese apologized for apologizing. The bishop explained they were “bullied” into making the first apology. And they know bullying when they see it. For instance, when the Covington boys were filmed harassing passing girls, that was so totally not bullying.

    Let me help you see that you didn’t really see what you thought you saw. This should be getting easier. You’ve had two years of gaslighting practice going back to the inauguration where many folks thought there was low attendance. In reality, 17 bazillion people showed up.

    Even if you did see what you thought you saw, disrespecting Phillips is justified because it turns out his military service wasn’t what it was cracked up to be. He was never deployed to Vietnam, and according to the Washington Times, he went AWOL three times. To be fair, I think it had something to do with bone spurs. And don’t forget about the black guys yelling unkind things at these innocents. It’s a well-known fact that if you are disrespected by one minority, it’s alright to disrespect the next minority you see. It’s one of those pay it forward deals.

    Anyway, that wasn’t a disrespectful smirk. Clearly you got this one wrong. To buttress this theory, I would encourage every teenage boy in America to give the old man that look the next time you’re in trouble. Purely as a social experiment.

    What was even more unfair to these boys was the conclusion by some that MAGA hats are a symbol of bigotry and misogyny. North Dakota conservatives bemoaned the injustice perpetrated against these poor lads through the unfair use of actual footage that made them look like boorish twits.

    People actually criticized them. Who treats children this way? By golly, when the Parkland shooting survivors were in North Dakota advocating for gun reform, no one staged protests, mocked their politics and sexuality, or called them punks or crisis actors.

    Not one conservative said a discouraging word.

    And the skies are not cloudy all day.

    https://www.wahpetondailynews.com/ne...a025a2933.html

    people like this idiot writer should be medicated and institutionalized

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    FBI told us it’s investigating threats against Covington students: pro-life group



    KENTUCKY, February 11, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – The FBI and local law enforcement are investigating threats against Covington Catholic High School and its students, according to the Ohio Christian Alliance (OCA).

    The OCA was one of several pro-life groups that called on federal law enforcement agencies to investigate threats of violence made online against a group of Catholic high school students based on false reporting of a confrontation at the 2019 March for Life.

    “OCA President Chris Long received a call from the Special Agent working in the Covington FBI office, confirming that the office was in receipt of our letter and confirmed that the FBI was working with local law enforcement to investigate the threats that were made against the school and its students,” Cleveland Right to Life shared in a press release February 8. “The indication was that charges will be filed in the coming weeks, if not days, against those who made threats against the students, their families, and Covington Catholic High School.”

    “We are pleased that the FBI and law enforcement officials are taking this matter seriously. These Christian students did nothing wrong, but a hate campaign was waged against them as they stood for the unborn by participating in the Annual March for Life,” said Long. “While waiting for their bus at the Lincoln Memorial steps after the march, they became the target of counter protesters. We encourage the FBI and Justice Department to thoroughly investigate, utilizing the video tapes and the twitter statements from individuals who made threats against the students.”

    “We have said from the beginning that this is a watershed moment,” he continued.

    “A message needs to be sent to the public at large that making threats against minors resulting in harassment and potential danger is not free speech, but is in fact criminal activity.”


    “The madness that followed the students from the encounter...put them at the center of a generated hate campaign, fueled by false media reports and social media,” Created Equal said in a press release during the initial call for an FBI investigation. “Known individuals have called for violence against the students and their Christian school.”

    Law enforcement authorities confirmed in late January that they were investigating unidentified threats against Covington Catholic and its students. The school closed its doors on January 22 out of fear of leftist threats and protests.

    L. Lin Wood, a nationally-recognized attorney, is representing Covington student Nick Sandmann, who became the focus of the ire of leftists, media outlets, and even conservatives and Catholic authorities. They attacked him for “smirking” at Native American activist Nathan Phillips, who it was later revealed has a violent criminal past and tried to storm and disrupt a Catholic Mass the day after the 2019 March for Life. Sandmann and his fellow students, accused of chanting “build the wall” and allegedly racist statements at Phillips, were completely vindicated by extended footage of the encounter showing them peacefully enduring verbal abuse from adults, and not mocking Phillips as they were falsely accused of doing.


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    Honest Abe:

    "President Donald Trump told the crowd at his rally in El Paso, Texas, on Monday that he got special permission from the El Paso Fire Department to let 10,000 people inside the El Paso County Coliseum.

    El Paso Fire Department spokesman Enrique D. Aguilar told The El Paso Times that not only did the fire department not give Trump special permission, but the Coliseum had about 6,500 people in it during the president’s rally. Aguilar says that number was at capacity and well within its standard allowance."
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    Exonerated by the diocese:
    Investigation finds Covington students did not instigate confrontation


    An independent investigation into the interaction last month between Covington high school students and a Native American man has exonerated the students, the Diocese of Covington has announced.

    In a Feb. 11 message to Covington Catholic High School parents, posted on the diocesan website, Bishop Roger Foys said a third-party inquiry had determined that “our students did not instigate the incident that occurred at the Lincoln Memorial.”

    “In truth, taking everything into account, our students were placed in a situation that was at once bizarre and even threatening,” he said. “Their reaction to the situation was, given the circumstances, expected and one might even say laudatory.”

    The investigations’ report was released nearly a month after controversy first erupted following video emerging on Twitter showing a confrontation between a Native American elderly man with a drum – later identified as activist Nathan Phillips – and a group of students from Covington Catholic High School.

    The incident took place as the students were waiting at the Lincoln Memorial to meet their bus on their way home from the March for Life in Washington, D.C.

    A team of investigators, which Bishop Foys said “has no connection with Covington Catholic High School or the Diocese of Covington” reviewed 50 hours of internet activity, interviewed 43 students and 13 chaperones, and attempted repeatedly to contact Phillips through multiple venues, with no response.

    As the students arrived at the Lincoln Memorial, they encountered Black Hebrew Israelites, who were yelling offensive statements at anyone who walked by, the report found. “We see no evidence that students responded with any offensive or racist statements of their own.”

    “Some of the students asked the chaperones if they could do their school cheers to help drown out the Black Hebrew Israelites,” the investigators said, however they added that they did not find evidence that any students chanted “Build the Wall.”

    Phillips then approached the students, the report said. Most of the students thought he was coming to join in their cheers, and many said they were confused by what he was doing, but none felt threatened.

    “We found no evidence of offensive or racist statements by students to Mr. Phillips or members of his group. Some students performed a ‘tomahawk chop’ to the beat of Mr. Phillips’ drumming and some joined in Mr. Phillips’ chant.”

    The investigators concluded that the statements they had obtained from students and chaperones were “remarkably consistent,” both with one another and the video footage reviewed. In contrast, they said,

    “Mr. Phillips’ public interviews contain some inconsistencies,

    and we have not been able to resolve them or verify his comments,” due to their inability to get in touch with him.

    Controversy over the Jan. 18 encounter began after footage posted online showed one student, a junior at Covington, standing in close proximity to Phillips with an uncomfortable expression on his face while the students around him chant and do the “tomahawk chop.”

    As the video went viral, it was roundly condemned by media commenters and some Catholic leaders as racist and antagonistic on the part of the students. However, more footage was subsequently released, showing the Black Israelites, and also appearing to show Phillips approaching the students, which contradicted prior reports that the students had surrounded him.

    The Covington diocese and high school had initially responded to the incident by saying the students’ behavior was “opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person. The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion.”

    As additional information emerged, the Diocese of Covington removed its initial statement and released a new one on Monday, Jan. 22, announcing both the temporary closing of Covington Catholic High School and a third-party investigation into the events at the Lincoln Memorial.

    In his Feb. 11 letter, Bishop Foys voiced hope that the students can now move forward with their lives and education.

    “These students had come to Washington, D.C. to support life. They marched peacefully with hundreds of thousands of others – young and old and in-between – to further the cause of life…Their stance there was surely a pro-life stance. I commend them.”


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...ontation-41748

    "Mr. Phillips’ public interviews contain some inconsistencies"

    where i come from, that's called "lying"

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    Honest Abe:

    "President Donald Trump told the crowd at his rally in El Paso, Texas, on Monday that he got special permission from the El Paso Fire Department to let 10,000 people inside the El Paso County Coliseum.

    El Paso Fire Department spokesman Enrique D. Aguilar told The El Paso Times that not only did the fire department not give Trump special permission, but the Coliseum had about 6,500 people in it during the president’s rally. Aguilar says that number was at capacity and well within its standard allowance."
    Where in your post does it say that Trump claimed there were 10,000 people there. It says that he got permission for 10,000, not that there actually were 10,000.

    And why the hell should I believe Enrique Aguilar? Maybe he's just another Leftwing liar.

    And what does your lame post even have to do with the thread topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Where in your post does it say that Trump claimed there were 10,000 people there. It says that he got permission for 10,000, not that there actually were 10,000.

    And why the hell should I believe Enrique Aguilar? Maybe he's just another Leftwing liar.

    And what does your lame post even have to do with the thread topic?
    i reported it as attempted thread derailment

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    i'll come back to parse this later, but it's disturbing that editors allow this example of naked hatred to be published:

    How White People Rush to Defend Racism

    Five themes on white people's reactions to the Covington Catholic MAGA kids incident.

    racist - assumes white people's responses to the controversy are homogeneous


    Before the MAGA Catholic kids pro-life rally incident is forgotten from our white consciousness, there are a few themes worth visiting. What’s worth visiting is not the actual racist event

    the only racist event that occurred involved the black hebrew israelites

    or the “out of control” media but the strategies behind what causes so many white people, who claim to be opposed to racism, to dismiss or justify incidents like these.

    Which incidents would those be - the incident in which the native americans were chased down, attacked, struck with thrown objects, spit upon, kicked? Or perhaps the incident in which the peaceful, friendly black hebrew israelites were attacked by the mob of angry white boys?

    In general, white people, at least the ones capable of seeing outside our white segregated world, “get” explicit racism—as in why Nazis, black face, jokes with n-words, and making fun of Native Americans are bad.

    Nazis were bad because they killed innocent people
    black face is hilarious
    jokes with n-words can be hilarious, or dumb, or bland, just like any other joke
    making fun of native americans is hilarious, if they're doing something worth making fun of, just like any other type of person



    But we don’t understand all the ways we unconsciously support, perpetuate, and dismiss all types of racism in this country—from the explicit, to the implicit, to the systemic. We don’t understand how our reactions to racism are influenced daily by the racism that we have unconsciously and unintentionally internalized just by growing up in a white supremacist society.

    I didn't grow up in a white supremacist society

    And this incident, or at least its aftermath, serves as an important example of what white people need to work on when confronting racism.

    The following are five themes pulled from white people’s reactions to this incident.

    1. White Victimhood and the Rush to Exonerate

    There’s not really a good way to sugar-coat this: there was 100 percent no rush to judgment on the first video.

    you're right - there's really no way to sugarcoat a lie

    If there’s a voice in your head screaming for the comment section right now, please try to calm it down for now. The vast majority who were outraged responded appropriately to an extremely racist incident caught on tape.

    you're right - it is extremely racist to smile at another person

    Any new information, incorrect background details, additional bad actors, or misinterpretations of the situation did not change the racism caught on tape in any way.

    iow, the truth doesn't matter as long as the lie has a moral lesson to teach

    There was a rush to judgment, but it came with the exoneration of those white MAGA kids and their racism caught on tape

    lie

    —in the form of a white victimhood narrative.

    Twenty-four hours after the first video came out, the usual white supremacist tactics were deployed,

    an examination of the total incident in the hope of better understanding the circumstances - that's a white supremicist tactic?
    dude - you're a retard


    and, as often happens, white people of all political backgrounds rushed to the narrative that alleviated the white discomfort of dealing with a messy racist “this could be any of our kids” situation.

    pretty sure there were quite a few black people who recognized that the original rush to judgement based on a four minute clip taken out of context was retarded

    A new dominant narrative was embraced without question.

    you must be thinking of some other controversy - the Catholic diocese, for example only yesterday exonerated the kids

    This familiar narrative painted the MAGA kids as the victims,

    they were the victims of the retarded social media attack, aided and abetted by the irresponsible msm


    forced to act racist toward those Native Americans due to the super-offensive Black Israelites and the audacity of Nathan Phillips singling out Nick Sandmann while walking straight up to his innocent and confused existence—to menacingly drum in his face.

    except nobody "acted racist" towards those ridiculous indians

    “What would be the appropriate reaction for a teenage boy who has never experienced anything like this?”—was the common white response on Facebook threads nationwide.


    as a sixteen year old high school sophmore, i probably would have reacted the same way Sandmann did

    as a early twenties college student, i probably would have pushed the idiot indians away from me, forcefully


    The easy answer to that question is “move aside.”

    why expect better behavior from the sixteen year old kid than you do from the 65 year old "elder?

    He could have moved aside like the dozens of other kids directly in front of Nick did before Nathan got anywhere close.

    all of those kids were standing on the flat paved area at the base of the steps

    Sandmann was standing on the bottom step



    Imagine if the race roles were reversed and a white elder tried to peacefully walk through a group of black teenagers mocking him

    I'd be very forceful in calling into question his motivation for being there


    and one black teenager decided to block his path.

    Sandmann didn't block Phillips "path"


    Would the “move aside” answer be easier to accept for white people with this color sequence?

    nope - you'd have to be a racist to assume it would

    Would it be easier to understand that Nick actively blocked Nathan’s path?


    he didn't

    the video evidence clearly shows that he didn't

    people who lied about it are being sued


    Would it be easier to understand the hostility involved in the act of blocking Nathan’s path?

    if Sandmann had actively blocked Phillip's path? Sure

    but he didn't - Phillips wandered over to where Sandmann was standing and walked up to Sandmann - Sandmann never moved - Phillips had room to go to the left, to the right, in fact, to go anywhere except directly through Sandmann


    My second, longer answer involves holding up a mirror focused on the reasons why so many white people accepted, without question, this new narrative.

    they're probably the same reasons why so many black people accepted the true narrative - because it was demonstrably true


    There are plenty of videos showing dozens of MAGA kids laughing

    yes, they were doing that before Phillips and his gay little drum-o-peace wandered into their space

    , mocking

    assumption

    , miming tomahawks,

    right - the tomahawk chop is a popular sports gesture/cheer/chant

    etc., at the Native Americans.


    at them, not at them, at each other - they were high school kids at the end of a long field trip waiting for their bus home, goofing around, having fun

    There are plenty of videos that show Nathan didn’t single Nick out

    well, no - that's a blatant lie - the videos clearly show Phillips approaching various students who either move on themselves, or who Phillips moves past - it isn't until he reaches Sandmann that he stops

    but was walking through the crowd, and Nick chose to block his way.


    by standing still on the first step of a staircase, with plenty of room for Phillips to go around him

    But as Trump said to his supporters, “What you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening”—none of this evidence mattered during the rush to exoneration.

    Your Trump derangement syndrome is duly noted

    But even if the narrative were true and Nick was a victim with no choice,

    at the mall? he wasn't a victim and he made a good choice - smile at the weirdo with the drum - for all Sandmann knew, Phillips was a homeless mental patient who would ask for spare change when he was finished

    it’s still hard to understand how this narrative alone exonerates all those kids mocking Native Americans

    they weren't

    and all the parents allowing it to happen.


    they didn't


    It took a few more strategies to help “seal the white deal” on exoneration.

    you're a retard

    a racist retard


    2. Victim Blaming

    A common legal defense in court, when a defendant lacks exonerating evidence, is to attack the credibility of the plaintiff. After the first video emerged, Nathan Phillips’s credibility was immediately attacked based on perceived inaccuracies in his military service and personal character flaws in an attempt to prove he wasn’t capable of having a perspective at all, despite literally being in the middle of the incident.

    rather, evidence was brought to light which called into question his credibility and motivations


    The victim blaming

    what was Phillips the victim of? Being smiled at?

    and character assassination of Nathan Phillips


    rather, character definition

    was no different than the victim blaming and character assassination of unarmed black people murdered by police. It was no different than focusing on previous run-ins with the law in the cases of Michael Brown

    the thug caught on video robbing a convenience store and assaulting the owner moments before his encounter with the cops?

    and Eric Garner

    the fellow caught on video resisting arrest?

    , the marijuana usage of Sandra Bland and Botham Jean, the resisting arrest claims regarding Sam Dubose and Terence Crutcher, or the broken car windows while ignoring the 20 rounds fired at Stephon Clark for holding a cellphone at night.

    sorry dude, you lost any possible credibility with the first two


    Focusing on incorrect background details or the transgressions of the victim doesn’t change the fact that there’s a murdered black person, innocent of any crime where the punishment is death without trial. But it does often get the murderer off. Inaccuracies in Nathan Phillips’s perspective

    aka lies about the events

    or flaws in his past don’t change the racism caught on tape.

    the racism from the BHI guys, yes

    But they do help white people dismiss it.

    3. Blame Shifting

    Shifting the blame to the Black Israelites

    rather, fleshing out the story with a factual account of the events


    was no different than the blame shifting in the context of racial disparities, biased treatment, and systemic racism people of color receive from white people and white institutions in this nation.

    you're insane

    Sentiments such as, “if only black people followed police orders better, they wouldn’t be shot so much,”

    well, duh

    as chris rock put it, "Everyone knows if the police have to come get you, they're bringing an a55 whoopin' with them"


    ignore the role that implicit racism plays in police brutality

    even when the cop is black?

    no matter how a black person acts

    act like you need an a55 whooping, you'll probably get an a55 whooping - no matter what color you are

    and that not following police orders doesn’t warrant police brutality.

    you'd have to be pretty retared not to recognize that not following police orders is a good start on your way to an a55 whooping

    “If only people of color made better choices, many of them wouldn’t be stuck in poverty,”

    right - choices like finish high school, get and keep a job, wait until marriage to have kids

    ignores the realities of living in a white supremacist world

    you're insane

    built on 400 years of past and present systemic racism without reparations.

    i firmly support giving any former slave reparations

    These sentiments are not so different from, “if only those Black Israelites didn’t start crap, those MAGA kids wouldn’t have been forced to be so racist towards the Native Americans.”

    you're right - they're not so different - they're both retarded

    Statements like these are

    retarded

    often used to downplay the reality people of color face while exonerating the white people who perpetuate that reality.

    4. Attacking the Media

    The PR firm Nick Sandmann’s family hired probably knew they could have Nick on TV lying about not doing anything disrespectful or racist towards the Native Americans, despite being caught literally doing these things on video


    you're insane

    because they probably knew the effectiveness of attacking the media when the media

    acts irresponsibly and reports a story without doing the investigational legwork

    tries to accurately report on white supremacy. Nick’s PR firm probably knew their attack on journalism and their accusations of the media rushing to judgment would prevent any further fact-checking or responsible journalism.

    again, you're insane

    This attack is no different than Trump’s strategy of attacking our media, which has kept most media outlets from even mentioning the words “white supremacy,” let alone reporting on it. When Jemele Hill called Trump a white supremacist on her personal twitter account in 2017, instead of having much-needed conversations nationwide about white supremacy and its relationship to the Trump presidency, there was a massive campaign, going all the way up to the White House, calling for her firing. This campaign resulted in ESPN publicly apologizing for Jemele accurately pointing out Trump’s association with white supremacy, one month after Trump called white supremacists at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally, “very fine people.”

    It’s so much easier to attack the messenger by finding bias or sketchy details than to deal with the message. I think that’s why the media, with all their flaws, are taking the blame for white people’s inability to understand, let alone deal with, white supremacy.

    i skipped the silly nonsense abovebecause it's merely an embarrassing look at your trump derangement insanity

    5. Defending Racial Dog Whistles

    President Reagan was the first to create MAGA (Make American Great Again) as a racial dog whistle, which is a coded racist phrase or issue that pretends to be race-neutral. Dog-whistle politics took shape at a time when explicit racism, such as Jim Crow segregation and lynching, were becoming less acceptable. After the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed, many politicians who supported segregation and opposed civil rights for people of color traded their “segregationist” hat for a “conservative” hat and joined the Republican ticket under the new “Southern Strategy,” which coded the old racism of the past with new dog whistles: “states rights,” “law and order,” and “welfare queen.” These terms may seem race-neutral

    and in fact usually are, unless you're insane

    but were used to push policies, such as tax breaks for the wealthy and the shredding of social safety nets, that disproportionately hurt people of color. Lee Atwater, a political strategist for Reagan, laid it all out in a 1981 interview.


    Trump has a similar strategy in MAGA, yet white people still believe or at least pretend that these racial dog whistles are actually race-neutral. Decades after Reagan, the majority of white people from all political stripes are at best dismissing the MAGA dog whistle and at worst defending it.

    Even if you’re one of the millions of white people who have never stepped out of our segregated world long enough to understand the real racial impacts of MAGA policies, and you wear a MAGA hat with no intent to be racist, the impact is still racism and is still felt among people of color. Understanding intent vs. impact is essential when understanding racism. You have the freedom to wear MAGA hats, but you do not have the freedom from the consequences, which include being accurately labeled a racist and receiving the very justifiable anger of non-white people who suffer from racist MAGA policies.

    skipped all of the above fpr the same reason - an embarrassing look at your insane hatred of a hat with a slogan

    The larger consequences of white supremacy, such as mass incarceration, neoliberalism, discrimination, police brutality, etc., all have their roots in the internalized racism of all white people, allowing us to consciously or unconsciously support, perpetuate, and dismiss the racism we claim to oppose. If we want to create real change, we have to address these roots. Addressing these roots isn’t so much about showing up to protests, donating to civil rights groups, and confronting family members at Thanksgiving (although these things are important and desperately need our continued attention). It’s more about showing up to anti-racism workshops, reading (and financially supporting) anti-racism resources, and confronting your own internalized racism 365 days per year.

    just more insane ranting and raving, attempting to justify his hatred of a sixteen year old boy he doesn't know

    Personally, I’m not going to lose sleep

    hoping those MAGA kids and parents receive their just desserts.

    they will - the lawsuits will ensure that

    I know they won’t. But I am invested in white people understanding this isn’t an isolated incident but a very common theme in our society that needs to be confronted.

    https://goodmenproject.com/social-ju...defend-racism/
    Last edited by ok doser; February 14th, 2019 at 11:14 PM.

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