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    Again:

    2 Peter 1 KJV
    1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:


    And stuff any attempts to divide "God" and "Savior" into two separate people(I.e., God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ), as the sentence structure occurs elsewhere, in the same book. To wit:

    2 Peter 1 KJV
    11 for so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


    =not 2 people

    2 Peter 2 KJV

    20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

    =not 2 people

    2 Peter 3 KJV
    18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

    =not 2 people


    The grammar,sentence structure for "Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" is exactly the same as "God and Savior Jesus Christ." "Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" is clear-thus, it is insane, inconsistent, deceptive, to separate "God" and "Savior" in 2 Peter 1:1 KJV. The Lord Jesus Christ, in no uncertain terms, is directly called both God and Savior, just as He is called both Lord and Savior.


    QED.
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    Titus 2:13 KJV looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

    Revelation 19:17 KJV And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
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    I used to wonder how they can blow off and ignore the yellow wheel chart that PROVES from the Bible that Christ is God.

    But it's not hard to understand; I just had to accept it.

    They don't care because they're modern day pharisees, seeking to make the word of God of no effect by their traditions, AND they're here on these threads to make their potential converts twice the sons of Hell that these liars already are.

    If someone can look at the exact same title used both for Christ and for Almighty God and say "Pfft, who cares?" or "That's not what it says," you're looking at someone (they won't ever admit this) with a VERY low view of the Bible.
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    I think that Trinitarians need to start using this verse to prove the Trinity:

    1 John 4:14
    14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I think that Trinitarians need to start using this verse to prove the Trinity:

    1 John 4:14
    14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
    Why do you think trinitarianism has a problem with this?

    Find Joe Smith's lost golden plates yet?
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Find Joe Smith's lost golden plates yet?
    I have no interest in helping you find the lost Mormon golden plates.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I have no interest in helping you find the lost Mormon golden plates.
    Of course you don't. They'd be sacred to you.

    Anyway, what problem do you think we have with 1 Jn 4:14?
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Of course you don't. They'd be sacred to you.
    Imaginary Mormon golden plates are not sacred to me.
    Why are you wasting your time trying to find them?
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Imaginary Mormon golden plates are not sacred to me.
    Why are you wasting your time trying to find them?
    Time to man up. What problem do you think we should have with 1 Jn 4:14?
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Time to man up. What problem do you think we should have with 1 Jn 4:14?

    1 John 4:14
    14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.



    I suppose you might be upset when it plucks off two of the petals of the yellow wheel chart you like to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    1 John 4:14
    14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.



    I suppose you might be upset when it plucks off two of the petals of the yellow wheel chart you like to use.
    How is this verse a problem for trinitarians, as you see it? Explain please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    How is this verse a problem for trinitarians, as you see it? Explain please.
    Are you honestly asking for an explanation or are you just trolling like you did with the Mormon gold plate comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Are you honestly asking for an explanation or are you just trolling like you did with the Mormon gold plate comments?
    Dead serious.
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    The Lord Jesus Christ dismissed His spirit to the Father(Mark 15:37 KJV,Luke 23:46 KJV,John 19:30 KJV), His soul went to hell(His soul was circumcised from His body, as was ours when we were saved-Col. 2:11 KJV). He deposited all our sins in hell. His death by blood fulfilled the "sin offering",His soul going to hell fulfilled the requirement of a "burnt offering."


    Mark KJV
    37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

    Luke 23 KJV
    46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost

    John 19 KJV
    30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

    Go ahead, you Christ rejectors, who deny that the Lord Jesus Christ is God....Tell us what person can not only arrange the circumstances of his own death(i.e., how, where, by whom......), but "give up the ghost"?

    Christ rejectors: Well, it does not mean that he is God, you see, well, uh urr...He is just a servant, you see......
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    Three distinct Persons, all referred to as God, and yet only one God, beside Whom there is no other.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Are you honestly asking for an explanation or are you just trolling like you did with the Mormon gold plate comments?
    Are you a Donny and Marie groupie, i.e., a Mormon?
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