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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Congratulations on your promotion to thread NAZI and Speech Commissar. I am sure you will do well telling other people what they can and cannot say. Here is another honor I shall bestow upon thee: Welcome to my Ignore List, where you once reigned before and shall reign again for all eternity. Buh Bye.

    Oh, and while you reign there, try working on not being a liar. Posting a post is not disruptive, the word "Cotex" is not potty humor (in fact its not even a real word I don't think) and I never insinuated any profanity. I understand that you Liberals have great difficulty in not lying, but do try sir, you will be the better for it in the long run.

    And now, off you go to the list. Buh Bye again.
    Apparently "CatholcCrusader" subscribes to the Pinocchio School of Linguistics whereby one resorts to "shooting the messenger" in an effort to bluff yourself out of a tight spot.

    What we didn''t receive was a "plausible" explanation as to why "Cortez" was changed "Cotex" which has the same pronunciation (with a "k" instead of a "c") as a well known female sanitary product.

    To claim that you have no knowledge of its meaning or whether such a word even exists defies all credulity!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Kind of like Hitler. Awwww, who cares about Hitler's policies, right? What matters is that he was charismatic. Hitler and Cotex are both socialists and hate Jews, but again, its that charismatic personality that matters, not the policies, right?

    Hey, maybe thats why you refuse to answer ok doser's question in the other thread: Are you opposed to killing babies after they are born. You are much like Hitler and Cotex when it comes to disposing of people, right?

    RIGHT??!!
    AOC doesn't hate Jews. She claims to have Jewish blood.


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    The media infatuation with AOC is beyond bizarre. What actual talents and experience does she have that would anyone to believe she would be good Congresswoman? She graduated with a degree in Economics and International Relations. Ok, that's a good thing. But as far as I can tell she has zero professional experience? She has never had a job where she applied her degree. She was a bartender? How can someone graduate from Boston University and en up a bartender? She also talks too much without showing any wisdom. She's addicted to Twitter as if its her job to post on Twitter daily. Apparently, she no understanding of the political process. And yet, the good people of New York elected her to Congress because? The ideas that she has talked about (70% marginal tax on the "rich", a Green New Deal, etc.) will go nowhere. And she embraces socialism. Has this woman ever traveled abroad and seen what socialism has done to other countries?

    I have a young niece who is about to graduate from college with a degree in International Relations. Her goal is to work in the diplomatic core at the UN. She has already completed internship abroad including spending six months in Jordan. She is going to work in the peace corps for a few years and then return to work on her master's degree. She's only 21 years old now but I have no doubt she'd make a better Congresswoman now than AOC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    My answer is to be aware of childhood abuse--and how it can actualy change the physical neruological development of the growing brain. And more important, how the abuse can easily pass through the generations.

    I see lots of advice to honor our parents, but hardly any at all to treat children with decency, kindness, fairness and respect.

    This is no lie: I have actually heard adults who were hit during their formative years to say “Well, I deserved it” or “I had it coming.”
    A person that knows that they deserved the correction they received as a child is not the victim of childhood abuse.
    A parent has the duty to correct their children in order to help their children become good people.
    The most efficient manner to do this is to "apply the board of education to the seat of knowledge."

    Proverbs 13:24
    24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.


    But, a parent should be careful to apply only the amount of correction that matches the offense that is being corrected.

    Colossians 3:21
    21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

    Learn to read what is written.

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    CATHOLIC CRUSADER:

    You actually posted:

    "I understand that you Liberals have great difficulty in not lying, but do try sir, you will be the better for it in the long run."

    That is just as ignorantly silly as posting:

    "I understand that you conservtives have great difficulty in not lying, but do try sir, you will be the better for it in the long run."

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    A big person should never hit a little child.
    All adults who hit their children have varying opinions as to what it is specifically meant by applying “only the amount of correction thast matches the offense that is being corrected.

    Turn to Deuteronomy 21:18-21:

    If any of you has a disobedient and rebellious son, who does not respond to the instructions of his father or mother, you are first to discipline him. If he still does not heed you, you are to bring him to the elders at the gate of the city. You are to say to the elders of the city, “This son of ours is disobedient and rebellious. He won’t obey us. He is a glutton and a drunk.”

    The men of the city are then to stone him to death. In this way you will rid yourselves of this evil, and everybody else will hear about it and be afraid.


    That passage is thought to be between twenty-five hundred and three thousand years old. So “disobedient and rebellious” sons evidently were a serious problem centuries before Hollywood and hip-hop — even in homogeneous cities (none much bigger than Littleton. Colorado or Parkland, Florida) where every activity was structured around religion and where children were constantly with their families.

    The problem was consistent and important enough not only to be written into sacred law but to merit public execution. Which tells us something else: that no one knew what to do.

    A sentence of death, demanded by the parents themselves, is a clear signal that no one in that society could come up with a constructive solution for extreme disobedience and rebellion in the young.


    The problem was both too strong to overcome and too threatening to tolerate. In a time when children were crucial to the economic survival of the family, both the parents and the community were reduced to the epitome of defeat: killing their kids.

    And the stated purpose of this public execution was to scare other kids into behaving. No society sets such a grim example unless its members feel it’s needed.

    Hitting children is morally wrong. We now know that abuse of children defninitively changes their neurological systems in harmful and dangerous ways. For life.

    Because of obedience to violence as a child, by readiness to obey any authority which recalls the authority of the parents--as the Germans obeyed Hitler, the Russians Stalin, the Serbs Milosevic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    The media infatuation with AOC is beyond bizarre. What actual talents and experience does she have that would anyone to believe she would be good Congresswoman?
    remember the media's response to this guy?

    just to jog your memory:

    i'm not going to go searching for it, but has Matthews weighed in on AOC yet?

    I have a young niece who is about to graduate from college with a degree in International Relations. Her goal is to work in the diplomatic core at the UN. She has already completed internship abroad including spending six months in Jordan. She is going to work in the peace corps for a few years and then return to work on her master's degree. She's only 21 years old now but I have no doubt she'd make a better Congresswoman now than AOC.
    she sounds like a real credit to her family - you should be (and i'm sure you are) proud of her

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    The media infatuation with AOC is beyond bizarre. What actual talents and experience does she have that would anyone to believe she would be good Congresswoman? She graduated with a degree in Economics and International Relations. Ok, that's a good thing. But as far as I can tell she has zero professional experience? She has never had a job where she applied her degree. She was a bartender? How can someone graduate from Boston University and en up a bartender? She also talks too much without showing any wisdom. She's addicted to Twitter as if its her job to post on Twitter daily. Apparently, she no understanding of the political process. And yet, the good people of New York elected her to Congress because? The ideas that she has talked about (70% marginal tax on the "rich", a Green New Deal, etc.) will go nowhere. And she embraces socialism. Has this woman ever traveled abroad and seen what socialism has done to other countries?

    I have a young niece who is about to graduate from college with a degree in International Relations. Her goal is to work in the diplomatic core at the UN. She has already completed internship abroad including spending six months in Jordan. She is going to work in the peace corps for a few years and then return to work on her master's degree. She's only 21 years old now but I have no doubt she'd make a better Congresswoman now than AOC.
    Ocasio has a awesome command of U.S. tax policy.
    I’m not the only one who sees this.

    She’s not going to inflate herself, mock her opponents or call others boorish names.

    She is a true policy wonk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    A big person should never hit a little child.
    You start out with a lie, let's see where you go from there.
    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    All adults who hit their children have varying opinions as to what it is specifically meant by applying “only the amount of correction thast matches the offense that is being corrected.

    Turn to Deuteronomy 21:18-21:

    If any of you has a disobedient and rebellious son, who does not respond to the instructions of his father or mother, you are first to discipline him. If he still does not heed you, you are to bring him to the elders at the gate of the city. You are to say to the elders of the city, “This son of ours is disobedient and rebellious. He won’t obey us. He is a glutton and a drunk.”

    The men of the city are then to stone him to death. In this way you will rid yourselves of this evil, and everybody else will hear about it and be afraid.


    That passage is thought to be between twenty-five hundred and three thousand years old.
    Yes, I have read the passage.
    The disobedient and rebellious son is obviously a fully grown man and not a child.
    In nomadic tribes, the grown children stayed with the parents until they got married.

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    So “disobedient and rebellious” sons evidently were a serious problem centuries before Hollywood and hip-hop — even in homogeneous cities (none much bigger than Littleton. Colorado or Parkland, Florida) where every activity was structured around religion and where children were constantly with their families.
    In a nomadic tribe, a "disobedient and rebellious" person could cause the death of the entire tribe.
    Are you trying to claim that one hip-hop artist can cause the death of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people the way one "disobedient and rebellious" person could in a nomadic tribe 3000 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    The problem was consistent and important enough not only to be written into sacred law but to merit public execution.
    A person that was causing the kind of disruption that would result in an entire tribe being killed is important.

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    Which tells us something else: that no one knew what to do.
    Of course they knew what to do.
    The obvious solution is to put the person to death before the entire tribe is killed.
    The real reason this was written down in the law was to show that the parents were to be responsible for the welfare of the tribe over any silly modern liberal notion of wanting their children to be happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    A sentence of death, demanded by the parents themselves, is a clear signal that no one in that society could come up with a constructive solution for extreme disobedience and rebellion in the young.
    No, that is the kind of misunderstanding a person with a modern liberal education would come up with, because the modern liberal education teaches people that they are to be as destructive to society as possible and that there are no consequences for their actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    The problem was both too strong to overcome and too threatening to tolerate. In a time when children were crucial to the economic survival of the family, both the parents and the community were reduced to the epitome of defeat: killing their kids.
    Why are you trying to make this into an argument about abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    And the stated purpose of this public execution was to scare other kids into behaving. No society sets such a grim example unless its members feel it’s needed.
    Yes, the very survival of the whole tribe is that important.

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    Hitting children is morally wrong.
    No it isn't. Abortion is morally wrong. Spanking a child for misbehaving is not morally wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    We now know that abuse of children defninitively changes their neurological systems in harmful and dangerous ways. For life.
    Teaching a child to be a responsible person is "harmful and dangerous"?
    Are you an idiot?

    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    Because of obedience to violence as a child, by readiness to obey any authority which recalls the authority of the parents--as the Germans obeyed Hitler, the Russians Stalin, the Serbs Milosevic.
    No, the readiness to obey any authority comes from stripping the parents of the ability to correct their children and enrolling the children in a "public" school that is modeled after the Prussian education system with compulsory attendance and transference of authority from parents to the teachers as interchangeable authority figures, since the purpose of the Prussian education system was to make the children unthinking obedient citizens of the state.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    Hitting children is morally wrong.
    in many circumstances, yes

    but not universally

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    ... transference of authority from parents to the teachers as interchangeable authority figures...

    wasn't long after i started teaching in the inner city that i realized that many of the kids didn't recognize their parents as authority figures, didn't respect them, didn't obey them

    and that it was folly to expect them to respect us teachers

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    We do not need books about psychology in order to learn to respect our children.
    What we need is a total revision of the methods of child rearing and our traditional view about it.

    The way children are treated is the way we treat ourselves the rest of our lives--with cruelty or with tenderness and protection.

    We often impose our most agonizing suffering upon ourselves and, later, on our children.

    The people in Deuteronomy felt they had no choice but to kill their own children.
    And this was way before hip-hop music, video games and Hollywood.

    Generally we are bind to the evidence. People who are supposed to be experts claim to understand science.

    Ressearch has clearly shown that children who have been hit or verbally humiliaited have formed different, abnormal pathways in their growing brains.

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    "Blessed shall he be who takes your little infants and dashes them against the rocks !!!"
    --Psalm 137-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    in many circumstances, yes

    but not universally
    Not according to Jesus.
    Overturning convnetional wisdom was what got him killed.

    "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”
    --Matthew 19:14

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    It’s not the task of the church to “Make America Great Again.”

    The task of the church is to make Christianity countercultural again.
    And once we separate Jesus from the interests of Empire, we begin to see just how countercultural and radical Jesus’ ideas actually are.

    --Enemies? Love them.
    --Violence? Renounce it.
    --Money? Share it.
    --Foreigners? Welcome them.
    --Sinners? Forgiven them.


    These are the kind of radical ideas that will always be opposed by the principalities and powers, but which the followers of Jesus are called to embrace, announce and enact.

    The degree to which the church is faithful to Jesus and his radical ideas is the degree to which the church embodies a faith that is truly countercultural.

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