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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Let's just put aside the fables and Greek mythology, and look at the facts.
    Oh, the irony.

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    All of these christological, theological, ontological questions, are a distraction. A pursuit of the flesh. It won't save you, it won't sanctify you, it won't do anything for you other than swell your head. Big swollen head/ego. How can I know, with absolute certainty, how Christ exactly relates to YHWH? What's the ontological relationship, EXACTLY, between The Son and The Father? Do you know? I don't. How can anyone know that? We have ideas, opinions, often very strong opinions..That's about it. What you can have, is a personal encounter and relationship with the Living God/YHWH and His Son. You can have the experience of God's presence in your life.

    Whoever is actually born again, born from above, knows God is real, Jesus is real, the Holy Spirit is real, the gospel is real, all of these realities aren't figments of the imagination. It's not just someone's personal opinion or sentiment, nor is it a fairy tale. If you're actually a born again, child of God, then you know that the basic beliefs in respect to the biblical God, His Son, Salvation, Resurrection, The Power of God to transform your life, all of that is REAL/REALITY. I may not be able to define exactly how Jesus is One with The Father, or how exactly Jesus is divine, but I do know He's my King and Savior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    You are not a progeny which this verse emphasizes. But a son of the most high, in effect an angelic being, thou art not.
    I am not saying that I am an angel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Be warned, Jacob.

    Be discerning, because Sabbath Moon is Satan's minister. She is here to lead you astray.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-15
    13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
    Now what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I am not saying that I am an angel.
    But that is part of the definition of progenies/sons of the Most High in both testaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealityJerk View Post
    All of these christological, theological, ontological questions, are a distraction. A pursuit of the flesh. It won't save you, it won't sanctify you, it won't do anything for you other than swell your head. Big swollen head/ego. How can I know, with absolute certainty, how Christ exactly relates to YHWH? What's the ontological relationship, EXACTLY, between The Son and The Father? Do you know? I don't. How can anyone know that? We have ideas, opinions, often very strong opinions..That's about it. What you can have, is a personal encounter and relationship with the Living God/YHWH and His Son. You can have the experience of God's presence in your life.

    Whoever is actually born again, born from above, knows God is real, Jesus is real, the Holy Spirit is real, the gospel is real, all of these realities aren't figments of the imagination. It's not just someone's personal opinion or sentiment, nor is it a fairy tale. If you're actually a born again, child of God, then you know that the basic beliefs in respect to the biblical God, His Son, Salvation, Resurrection, The Power of God to transform your life, all of that is REAL/REALITY. I may not be able to define exactly how Jesus is One with The Father, or how exactly Jesus is divine, but I do know He's my King and Savior.
    Sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    But that is part of the definition of progenies/sons of the Most High in both testaments.
    Not that I know of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Actually, you've found yourself afraid to move in either direction.
    There are reasons not to move in either direction.

    Deuteronomy 5:32
    32 Ye shall observe to do therefore as the Lord your God hath commanded you: ye shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.


    And for when you object to "legalism"

    2 Timothy 3:16
    16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


    I am not carried away from the doctrines of scripture by every wind of the doctrines of men.

    Ephesians 4:14
    14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    But that is part of the definition of progenies/sons of the Most High in both testaments.
    No it isn't.
    The scriptures never say the "sons of god" are angels.
    You need to go back to the scriptures.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    No it isn't.
    The scriptures never say the "sons of god" are angels.
    You need to go back to the scriptures.
    The phrases messengers i.e. angels of God, and sons of God are used interchangeably in the gospel account of the waking of the dead.

    Not all angels are born of God, some are human. Thus angel is a transliteration, but it's meaning isn't correct.

    “nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."

    “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God[fn] in heaven."

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan[fn] also came among them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    But that is part of the definition of progenies/sons of the Most High in both testaments.
    Moronic comments coming from the gutter snipe again. That's what being in a cult will do to ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    Oh, the irony.
    The irony is that this is a Christian forum, and you have inserted yourself here.

    What's the matter, don't you have enough cult members to make up your own forum? Are they realizing they are dead men walking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    There are reasons not to move in either direction.

    Deuteronomy 5:32
    32 Ye shall observe to do therefore as the Lord your God hath commanded you: ye shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.


    And for when you object to "legalism"

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    I am not carried away from the doctrines of scripture by every wind of the doctrines of men.

    Ephesians 4:14
    14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
    Legalism is looking at scripture as the natural man does.

    I wouldn't boast about that if I was you. That's what the Pharisees did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Legalism is looking at scripture as the natural man does.

    I wouldn't boast about that if I was you. That's what the Pharisees did.
    The natural man would be who or whom?
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    The natural man would be who or whom?
    Those without the Spirit of God dwelling in them.

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