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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Yes, Sacred Scripture is convenient.... if one understands it.

    Not an excuse.
    YOu read the Bible to suit your own desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    YOu read the Bible to suit your own desires.
    I read the Bible to discover what it says, which is my great desire.
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Every claim I've made on this thread has basically been a direct quote of the bible.

    You're now on ignore because you cannot stay on topic and say simply the stupidest, disconnected nonsense that it seems possible to say and still be in the English language.
    Both meshak #1 and meshak #2 are bad. At least meshak #2 handles English reasonably well. meshak #1 is completely illogical and very unfamiliar with the Bible apart from a few pet verses.

    Both seem to be JW cult members, so it's no wonder that their doctrine is confused and wrong.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    that's how it goes when you cannot back up your claims.

    your english is surprisingly un-meshak-ish

    how wolf-like of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    Ethnic jews?

    LOL

    What? Ashkenazi?

    Don’t be anti-Semitic mmmkay?

    There are some that are Semitic still...

    Don’t forget Sephardi,

    Or the Mizrahi or...

    Jews in fact are Ethiopian Chinese German French Polish Russian but yet all one ethnicity...

    Oh boy...
    You are incredibly stupid.

    How in the world is it anti-semitic to acknowledge the existence of people who are Jewish in the sense that they are so ethnically? You call them semitic I call them Jews, it's the same thing when talking in the enthic sense of the term Jew.

    Now how are they one religion? Which of the many versions of Judaism is false?

    I mean besides Zionism...
    Zionism? Now, who's the anti-semite?

    I'm talking about being a Jew in the biblically religious sense, and was referencing comingfrom's mention of two of the Jewish Feasts, which anyone who was even half way honest or had an IQ higher than room temperature would know intuitively.


    Is there ANY chance whatseover that you are going to answer the question I asked you? I'll give you one last chance to do so and then it'll be back to the bliss of ignore your stupidity for me.

    Clete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Both meshak #1 and meshak #2 are bad. At least meshak #2 handles English reasonably well. meshak #1 is completely illogical and very unfamiliar with the Bible apart from a few pet verses.

    Both seem to be JW cult members, so it's no wonder that their doctrine is confused and wrong.
    There's two of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    There's two of them?
    Doesn't matter how many there are - where are the passages of Scripture for what she claims.

    Not on TOL, that's for sure.

    At least GT does that much - posts Scripture as her basis.

    I suspect Meshak couldn't quote the Scripture if her life depended on it.

    Some "Jesus" follower she is....

    Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

    Acts 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

    Meshak, all you are doing is proving yourself a fraud.

    Where is all the Scripture you base your claims on - you don't know where the passages are in Scripture, do you?

    "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" - Isaiah 8:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    There's two of them?
    Indeed... using the same account.

    If the English is good, it's meshak #2, otherwise meshak #1.

    (once in a while meshak #2 tries to throw in an occasional "misspelling" of something to put the dogs off the trail, but it's pretty easy to tell them apart).
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    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    I read the Bible to discover what it says, which is my great desire.
    Dream on.

    You will be surprised when you wakeup from dead.

    You guys are in a big mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    So, you're saying that we are raptured (i.e. caught up - harpazō - together with Him) so as to become the armies which follow Christ back to Earth?
    Hi Clete,

    Do you think that what is said in the following passage only applies to those in the Body of Christ?:

    "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed" (1 Cor.15:51-52).

    Do you think that what Paul describes as happening in this passage will only happen at the rapture and will only happen in regard to those who belong to the Body of Christ? In other words, do you deny that when the Lord Jesus returns to the earth to usher in His kingdom the living believers at that time will be changed and won't die physically?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Dream on.

    You will be surprised when you wakeup from dead.

    You guys are in a big mess.
    Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

    That is you.

    Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    There's two of them?
    #1 wears that very lovely hat!
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    meshak #2:
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    He may be a spiritual Jew. and I know you don't believe in the spiritual Jews.
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    suit yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    It is a promise of His followers.
    You claim you are saved already.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    that's how it goes when you cannot back up your claims.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    convenient excuse.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    YOu read the Bible to suit your own desires.

    meshak #1 (or #2 posing):
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    I watched for a while but pj's speaking was not clear as anyone else, and he did not look clear as anyone else, either. And Joh, the owner of the pj's forum, was in it too.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    It is against the rule.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    they skip all simple word of Jesus teachings.
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Live one day at a time.

    Not to worry about tomorrow.

    why so worry?
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    that's not all avoiding.

    why being so vague?
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    why MAD need not apply?
    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    This sound so reasonable and make sense since they are Zionists.

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

    That is you.

    Period.
    Dream on, man-made doctrine believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    There's two of them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Indeed... using the same account.
    might be multiple personalities



    or demon possession

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