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    Cool No Works-No Salvation

    NO WORKS-NO SALVATION
    THE MEAT UNDERSTANDING IS IN THE WORKS YOU DO

    1 Cor 15:9-11
    9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
    10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
    11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.
    1 Pet 4:12-13
    12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you;
    13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ's sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy.
    Rev 22:12
    12 "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
    James 1:22-24
    22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
    23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;
    24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
    II Jn 1:8
    8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
    Matt 5:16
    16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
    James 1:25
    25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
    James 1:23-24
    23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;
    24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
    Mark 1:27
    27 Then they were all amazed, so that they questioned among themselves, saying, "What is this? What new doctrine is this? For with authority He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey Him."
    Acts 5:29-30
    29 But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: "We ought to obey God rather than men.
    30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom you murdered by hanging on a tree.
    Acts 5:32
    32 "And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him."
    Acts 7:39
    39 "whom our fathers would not obey, but rejected. And in their hearts they turned back to Egypt,
    Luke 9:62
    62 But Jesus said to him, "No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."
    1 Cor 9:9-10
    9 For it is written in the law of Moses, "You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain." Is it oxen God is concerned about?
    10 Or does He say it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written, that he who plows should plow in hope, and he who threshes in hope should be partaker of his hope.
    Rom 8:24-25
    24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees?
    25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.
    1 Pet 5:10
    10 But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you.
    John 15:13-14
    13 "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
    14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
    John 14:15-17
    15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
    16 "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever--
    17 "the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
    John 15:10-11
    10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
    11 "These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full.
    2 Cor 10:4-5
    4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
    5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
    Gal 5:24-25
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    Matt 16:27-28
    27 "For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.
    28 "Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
    Matt 25:41-46
    41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
    42 'for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
    43 'I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'
    44 "Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?'
    45 "Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'
    46 "And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
    James 2:26
    26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
    I Jn 2:4
    4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    (NKJ)

    XXX You must have works. In order to have works you must find the Holy Spirit to lead you. To lead you He will only use the verses. You must obey the verses and submit to them. Without the Holy Spirit leading you, your works will be in vain. You will only have a camoflouge of doing good. And satan will have you doing them works for his people instead of Gods people. Those who are in the milk understanding are worshiping in the flesh, those who are walking after the Holy Spirit are worshiping in the Spirit.

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    [Heb 6:1
    1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary [principles] of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,

    1 Cor 9:24-27
    24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it.
    25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown.
    26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air.
    27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
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    Rom 8:8
    8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
    (NKJ)

    Rom 8:1-2

    1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
    (NKJ)

    I Jn 4:15-16
    15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
    16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
    (NKJ)

    Titus 3:8
    8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men.
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    I Jn 2:3-4
    3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
    4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    (NKJ)

    Rev 14:12-13
    12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
    13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, "Write: 'Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.'" "Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them."
    (NKJ)

    Rom 2:12-13
    12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
    13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
    (NKJ)

    Acts 26:20
    20 "but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.
    (NKJ)

    Acts 19:4
    4 Then Paul said, "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus."
    (NKJ)

    I Jn 3:17-19
    17 But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?
    18 My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth.
    19 And by this we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him.

    [Heb 10:24
    [24] And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works,

    [Rev 19:8
    8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

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    They all avoid sound doctrines like plague.

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    Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

    Jim Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    I said
    One doesnt need works to be saved. But if they want salvation the only way to get it is with works.

    look at Abraham he was saved because he believed. But he still had to prove his faith with works.

    [Jas 2:14, 17-22, 24, 26
    [14] What [does it] profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? ...
    [17] Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
    [18] But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
    [19] You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble!
    [20] But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
    [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
    [22] Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? ...
    [24] You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. ...
    [26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

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    Ephesians 2:10 King James Version (KJV)
    10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

    Jim Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Ephesians 2:10 King James Version (KJV)
    10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
    I said
    lolol Your starting to flip flop like a fish out of water.

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    On judgment Day you will be judged according to your works.

    [Rev 20:11-15
    [11] Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.
    [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
    [13] The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
    [14] Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    [15] And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    lolol Your starting to flip flop like a fish out of water.
    this is so funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    NO WORKS-NO SALVATION
    THE MEAT UNDERSTANDING IS IN THE WORKS YOU DO
    wrong again
    no faith then no salvation

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    wrong again
    no faith then no salvation

    No one is saying no faith and just works. that is Stroman argument.


    Squeaky is right on. Faith without deeds is dead. Says James,the apostle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    wrong again
    no faith then no salvation
    I said
    lol Its very clear. At the great white throne judgment we will be judged by our works.


    [Rev 20:11-15
    [11] Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.
    [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
    [13] The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
    [14] Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    [15] And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    lol Its very clear. At the great white throne judgment we will be judged by our works.


    [Rev 20:11-15
    [11] Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.
    [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
    [13] The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
    [14] Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    [15] And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

    yes , the faithless will be judged according to their works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    yes , the faithless will be judged according to their works.
    I said
    Could you show me where it says faithless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    lol Its very clear. At the great white throne judgment we will be judged by our works.


    [Rev 20:11-15
    [11] Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.
    [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
    [13] The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
    [14] Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    [15] And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
    Many things can be called works. What works do Jesus and his Father approve of, and to whom should those works be directed?

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