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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post

    So I believe in Him, the things that spoke, and not in the preaching of the cross.
    Crosses are wooden, and cannot preach.
    But men make the cross into an image for us to worship.

    Sanctify the Lord.
    Amen.

    BTW, are you a trinity believer?


    just curios.

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    A little testimony.

    I tried to show you, it is even in a popular song.

    I was brought up by agnostic parents who taught me that there is no God.
    But while still a child, can't exactly remember when, but about 8 or 10 years old,
    Louis Armstrong's trumpet on the radio caught my ear, and my spirit rose up to the sound,
    and when I listened to the words of the song,
    I said within myself, I want to be in that number.

    I was 47 when Jesus manifested Himself to me,
    (though I now know, He came to me many times before then, but I believed not).
    It wasn't until after I was born again, and when I heard that song again,
    then the memory of my childhood vow returned to me.

    A joyous and surprising moment for me.
    My childhood wish was granted.
    Thanks to Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Amen.

    BTW, are you a trinity believer?


    just curios.
    Hi Meshak.

    I am a Jesus believer.
    Thanks to Jesus

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Hi Meshak.

    I am a Jesus believer.
    Thanks to Jesus
    So you don't believe in the doctrine of trinity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    So you don't believe in the doctrine of trinity?
    Thank you, Meshak.
    I believe in the name of the only begotten Son.

    The words "Trinity", and "triune", don't exist in my Bible (KJV),
    and I am a keeper of Jesus' sayings.

    I have been shown the doctrine of the Trinity by Trinitarians.
    To me, it is too many words, and not much of it is Biblical.
    Just lengthy explanations why they interpret certain verses certain ways,
    only to come up with a set of catch phrases.
    And then, finally, to condemn any who don't abide by those catch phrases.

    Jesus' word isn't that complicated, as men make out.
    One just needs to drink it neat.
    And sanctify His name.

    Ye shall eat nothing leavened;
    in all your habitations shall ye eat unleavened bread.

    Exodus 12:20

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom
    And I don't believe following the many to wave the cross and chanting "Jesus died for us" did either.
    Nobody suggested you follow others...or perform chants. But it is important to understand why our Savior had to die for us. It seems you think preaching that "Jesus died for us" is foolishness"? 1 Cor.1:23 "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness"
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    You should have expected it,
    after you first deliberately missed the point I was making.
    And I know you know it, because I added the scripture, which you know.
    Here is another.

    And he said,
    The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them;
    He shined forth from mount Paran, and He came with ten thousands of saints:
    from His right hand went a fiery law for them.

    Deuteronomy 33:2

    Ah, leap to a false presumption.

    The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few:
    pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that He would send forth labourers into His harvest.

    Luke 10:2

    So I looked for what the metaphor means,
    that I fulfil what Jesus was speaking,
    that there might be His everlasting life in me.

    Jesus said unto them,
    My meat is to do the will of Him that sent Me, and to finish His work.
    John 4:34

    And I know that His commandment is life everlasting:
    whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

    John 12:50

    Every Church out their claims they are His body.
    And they all want you to eat their flesh.
    Don't they?

    Ye shall eat no manner of fat,
    of ox, or of sheep, or of goat.
    And the fat of the beast that dies of itself,
    and the fat of that which is torn with beasts,
    may be used in any other use: but ye shall in no wise eat of it.
    For whosoever eats the fat of the beast, of which men offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD,
    even the soul that eats it shall be cut off from His people.

    Leviticus 7:23-25

    Jesus is alive for me.
    My troubles are a distant memory.
    I came out of the tribulation years ago.

    He which testifies these things says, Surely I come quickly.
    Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Revelation 22:20

    The secret things belong unto the LORD our God:
    but those things which are revealed belong unto us
    and to our children for ever,
    that we may do all the words of this law.

    Deuteronomy 29:29

    If you would look into the law, with a circumcised heart,
    it would be a revelation for you.

    Bless Jesus
    You are completely illogical and use fallacious reasoning. Welcome to my ignore list.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Thank you 6days.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    Nobody suggested you follow others...or perform chants.
    Of course not. That would be too blatant and obvious.
    Instead, they just condemn you,
    if you are not following their saying, and chanting what they chant.

    But it is important to understand why our Savior had to die for us.
    It was far more important to me to understand what our Saviour requires of us.

    So many are sure they understand why He died for us,
    and they aren't teaching the commandments yet.
    In fact, quite the opposite, they are saying the law ended,
    and God's word is a curse.
    They are attempting to turn you away from the word.

    It seems you think preaching that "Jesus died for us" is foolishness"?
    It certainly has kept many off keeping the commandments.

    1 Cor.1:23 "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness"
    So why do what is a stumbling block, and foolishness?
    Do you think the Jews and Greeks are blind?

    Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind,
    but shalt fear thy God:
    I am the LORD.

    Levitcius 19:14

    Sanctify the name of the Lord.
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    God bless you, Divider.

    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    You are completely illogical and use fallacious reasoning. Welcome to my ignore list.
    So. No questions?
    No curiosity as to how your brothers in Christ reason?

    I will hear even the ignorant.
    I will not disrespect your person.

    Ye shall not respect persons in judgment;
    but ye shall hear the small as well as the great;
    ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's:
    and the cause that is too hard for you,
    bring it unto Me, and I will hear it.

    Deuteronomy 1:17

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Hi Meshak.

    I am a Jesus believer.
    Thanks to Jesus
    Great, Amen
    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    So... You're just going to ignore Jesus' words?



    >>>Good. Show me where is God demand the blood of Jesus or any mans blood to grant us salvation.

    Or, where is Jesus taught by his death, God will grant us salvation.
    Or, any prophet who taught,the blood of any man is God requirement to grant us salvation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    It was far more important to me to understand what our Saviour requires of us.
    The Pharisees found it very important to follow 'requirements'. Did Jesus approve of their legalism? No! We are not saved by following commandments...We are saved by what Jesus accomplished at the cross. And we follow Him, as followers should.
    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 6days
    1 Cor.1:23 "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness"
    So why do what is a stumbling block, and foolishness? Do you think the Jews and Greeks are blind?
    The cross seems like foolishness to those who don't understand why it was necessary for our salvation.
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleander View Post
    >>>Good. Show me where is God demand the blood of Jesus or any mans blood to grant us salvation.

    Or, where is Jesus taught by his death, God will grant us salvation.
    Or, any prophet who taught,the blood of any man is God requirement to grant us salvation.
    Genesis 3
    Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned-
    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our LORD.
    1 Corinthians 15:21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
    Romans 5:17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

    Death was demanded because of first Adams sin.
    Life is made possible because of what "Last Adam" accomplished on the cross. 1 Cor. 15
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Thank you, 6Days.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    The Pharisees found it very important to follow 'requirements'. Did Jesus approve of their legalism? No!
    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
    for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin,
    and have omitted the weightier matters of the law,
    judgment, mercy, and faith:
    these ought ye to have done,
    and not to leave the other undone.

    Matthew 23:23

    In this saying we can see
    Jesus didn't approve because they were leaving out the important things in the law.

    We are not saved by following commandments...We are saved by what Jesus accomplished at the cross.
    He that has My commandments, and keeps them,
    he it is that loves Me:
    and he that loves Me shall be loved of My Father,
    and I will love him, and will Manifest myself to him.

    John 14:21

    When Jesus comes, He saves us.
    Or so it was for me.

    And we follow Him, as followers should.
    Then said Jesus unto His disciples,
    If any man will come after Me,
    let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.

    Matthew 16:24

    The cross seems like foolishness to those who don't understand why it was necessary for our salvation.
    I know.
    And showing what Jesus said seems like foolishness to those that understand why the cross was necessary.
    Even so, it is what He commanded me to do.

    And as ye go, preach, saying,
    The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

    Matthew 10:7

    And this gospel of the kingdom
    shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;
    and then shall the end come.

    Matthew 24:14

    Sincere best wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom
    Quote Originally Posted by 6days
    The cross seems like foolishness to those who don't understand why it was necessary for our salvation.
    And showing what Jesus said seems like foolishness to those that understand why the cross was necessary.
    Not sure which religious view of Jesus you hold, but you don't seem to know Him...the God of Scripture, nor the reason why the cross was necessary for us... If you do, you certainly have been unable to provide a Biblical answer. "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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