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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    So a US citizen does NOT have immunity from the state forcing religion on him or interfering in his religious beliefs?
    He's just doing some wishful thinking. The author of the amendment was very clear about the intent. And courts have always upheld it.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    So a US citizen does NOT have immunity from the state forcing religion on him or interfering in his religious beliefs?
    It appears that the Colorado baker does not have that immunity.


    Christian baker who won Supreme Court case in new cake-making legal battle

    When Christian bakery owner Jack Phillips won a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case in June over his refusal to make a wedding cake a gay couple based on his religious convictions, he thought his legal battles with the state of Colorado were over, according to a lawsuit.

    But now Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colorado, is facing a new court fight, this one involving a lawyer who asked him to bake a cake to celebrate the anniversary of her gender transition.

    Phillips filed a federal lawsuit this week accusing the state of Colorado of "anti-religious hostility" against him and asked the U.S. District Court in Denver to overturn a Colorado Civil Rights Commission ruling that he discriminated against a transgender person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    It appears that the Colorado baker does not have that immunity.

    Christian baker who won Supreme Court case in new cake-making legal battle

    When Christian bakery owner Jack Phillips won a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case in June over his refusal to make a wedding cake a gay couple based on his religious convictions, he thought his legal battles with the state of Colorado were over, according to a lawsuit.

    But now Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colorado, is facing a new court fight, this one involving a lawyer who asked him to bake a cake to celebrate the anniversary of her gender transition.

    Phillips filed a federal lawsuit this week accusing the state of Colorado of "anti-religious hostility" against him and asked the U.S. District Court in Denver to overturn a Colorado Civil Rights Commission ruling that he discriminated against a transgender person.

    We will have to see, my view in these cases is he should have the right as a person not to do anything against his faith, his business though is another matter as it is not a person or a religious institution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post


    The funniest thing about your statement is that you actually believe it.
    It's true . More and more Americans have been leaving Christianity because they no longer believe in it . I didn't make this up . It's established fact and you can easily google it yourself .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    more and more people are abandoning Christianity because they no longer believe in it .
    If the founders could somehow come back today , they would be overjoyed to see this religious diversity .
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    The funniest thing about your statement is that you actually believe it.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    It's true . More and more Americans have been leaving Christianity because they no longer believe in it . I didn't make this up . It's established fact and you can easily google it yourself .
    I am not laughing about people abandoning Christianity, I am laughing at you for thinking the founders would be overjoyed to see the kind of religious diversity we have today.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    What makes you think the founders would have had any objection to the religious diversity which exists in America today ? They wouldn't have had any objections at all .
    I think there would be a lot of objection, considering the religious affiliation of the founders.


    Religious Affiliation
    of U.S. Founding Fathers
    # of
    Founding
    Fathers
    % of
    Founding
    Fathers
    Episcopalian/Anglican 88 54.7%
    Presbyterian 30 18.6%
    Congregationalist 27 16.8%
    Quaker 7 4.3%
    Dutch Reformed/German Reformed 6 3.7%
    Lutheran 5 3.1%
    Catholic 3 1.9%
    Huguenot 3 1.9%
    Unitarian 3 1.9%
    Methodist 2 1.2%
    Calvinist 1 0.6%
    Religious Affiliation of the Founding Fathers of the United States of America

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