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    Sorry Clefty, and GT,
    it was GT who told me "can't do the commandments".
    I got a bit confused as to who I was talking to.
    I'm not used to who is who here yet.

    God bless you both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Are you now saying one can do all the commandments?
    sure...maybe not all the time but we should WANT to try...He of course forgives us when we repent knowing when we failed...in fact sacrifices in the OT were for sins they didnt even know they did...or didn’t do...

    We should be like a little kid trying on his Father’s shoes...”Look at me I am daddy!”




    The Lord chastens us, if we step one foot outside of His commandments. Yes?
    sure but we WANT to keep trying and growing closer to Him HIS WAY...and He gives us the comfort and courage and ability...and soon we are sinning less...but not sinless...accept covered IN HIM...is WHY we WANT to try

    So there is no wondering if you are doing right or not in the Lord.
    exactly...what grace to be given exact instruction as to what we are to do...to please Him...like a well trained dog is happy...like a young lover is pleased to know what the other desires...first love

    Sometimes it took me a little while to figure out which law I was transgressing,
    but it never takes long because the Holy Ghost leads you to the answer.
    Or maybe it is because I am looking for my transgressions, and reproof.
    yes He will lead...responsible for a little you will be given more...and be blessed...and live

    I dont murder anyone so I sleep good at night...simple...still working on not getting mad for no real reason though...lol
    I dont steal...no one is after me...
    I dont commit adultery...my relationships with everyone are improved
    I keep Sabbaths (actually it keeps me)and am rested and refreshed with its full day rest...and worship

    Etc...sure I fail and but then ask forgiveness...even Paul admitted doing that which he hated...but keep HATING it and you will do it less...ha...the Spirit will help

    no batter hits 1000% ya dig? Just keep swinging...

    Yes He chastens and rebukes but because we are in a LOVE relationship...with a purpose...RESTORATION...and COMPLETELY

    Remember we are to REPRESENT HIM...Paul says we establish Law...we are to the world what He is...as His disciples we should mirror and reflect Him HIS WAYS and exactly...that we are made in His Image is beyond what we look like but what we DO...

    What most people forget is that the 10 commandments are actually descriptions as to what life is like where “I AM”

    Where “I AM” there is no murdering, stealing, lying, adultery, coveting...as where He is there is NO NEED to

    Where “I AM” there is no other god, no images/idols, His Name is used, Sabbath is kept, hierarchy honored

    And if we wish to live happily there with Him...well we should WANT to get used to it here...and be happy with it...because it will be ON EARTH as it is in heaven...

    Imagine if there was no sin...well that is how we were created to live...it’s our factory settings...our default...so we should WANT to get used to that...DO THIS AND LIVE...and NOW IN HIM...forever...




    To those who forsake the law, and hide from it, it is impossible to do.
    To them the law shall always be a source of confusion, and a curse.
    But you got to expect that if you never study or practice it.
    And only hearken to them that hate it and excuse themself from it.
    yup like a child who HATES when the parents come home BECAUSE he didn’t do the chores...or how EVERYBODY slows down coming over the hill to see a cop car parked there...lol

    Thank God the law is highly praise in scripture, even above God's name.
    yes it is a delight...
    Else all the enchantments of those that hate God might have had all men off of it.
    yes indeed...now we know Whom and HOW and WHEN we may serve to LIVE and NOW forever...our purpose is clear as to why we were created...

    Nothing better knowing you can please the one you love...and how to do so...

    Praise God.
    yes indeed HalleluYah...

    Knowing what He expects and that He helps us achieve it...benefits not only this life but assures us IN HIM DOING HIS WAY of the next...

    The Law is like an owners manual...we dont read and do it in order to earn the car...we read and do it BECAUSE we already own the car...and in this case it was given to us and now wish to take care of it and maximize its use...

    His yoke is easy His burden is light...if you love Him...
    Last edited by clefty; January 11th, 2019 at 05:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Sorry Clefty, and GT,
    it was GT who told me "can't do the commandments".
    I got a bit confused as to who I was talking to.
    I'm not used to who is who here yet.

    God bless you both.
    Ha...yup lots of confusing misdirection in here...most of it following a jewish false witness that He changed the law or fulfilled it or abolished it some other way...

    Or somehow it doesnt apply to everyone...

    But it all ends with “Here are they that keep the commandments of Yah and the faith of Yahushua”

    In fact His last red letters words are “behold I am coming quickly and My reward is with Me to give to EVERY ONE according to his work...I have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the CHURCHES...Surely I am coming quickly”

    Those that LOVE HIM and JUST AS He loved us...love His Law...and know the works He will reward...and seek His soon return...not fearful but as longing for their first love....

    Oh and may Yah continue to bless you too...

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    Thank you, Clefty.

    You surprise me.

    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    sure...maybe not all the time but we should WANT to try...He of course forgives us when we repent knowing when we failed...in fact sacrifices in the OT were for sins they didnt even know they did...or didn’t do...
    Yes, we make offerings to learn how we transgress.

    We should be like a little kid trying on his Father’s shoes...”Look at me I am daddy!”
    It is enough for me trying on Jesus' sandals.
    God asks me to be a man, and no longer be a god.

    sure but we WANT to keep trying and growing closer to Him HIS WAY...and He gives us the comfort and courage and ability...and soon we are sinning less...but not sinless...accept covered IN HIM...is WHY we WANT to try
    Your word is refreshing to me.
    Most here are preaching to not try. Telling us we're deceived if we do try.

    exactly...what grace to be given exact instruction as to what we are to do...to please Him...like a well trained dog is happy...like a young lover is pleased to know what the other desires...first love
    Yes, like puppy love. Describes my love for the word.

    yes He will lead...responsible for a little you will be given more...and be blessed...and live
    Amen.

    I dont murder anyone so I sleep good at night...simple...still working on not getting mad for no real reason though...lol
    I haven't felt so much as annoyed for over a decade now.
    Anger is a dim memory, where once I was an angry man.

    I dont steal...no one is after me...
    I dont commit adultery...my relationships with everyone are improved
    I keep Sabbaths (actually it keeps me)and am rested and refreshed with its full day rest...and worship
    I make three day sabbaths, in the wilderness, to sacrifice as God commands me.
    But in the early days I had to make some eight day sabbaths.

    Etc...sure I fail and but then ask forgiveness...even Paul admitted doing that which he hated...but keep HATING it and you will do it less...ha...the Spirit will help

    no batter hits 1000% ya dig? Just keep swinging...
    Sometimes I make a sabbath and He doesn't come.
    Sometimes I can't shake off my thoughts, and concerns for the world.

    Yes He chastens and rebukes but because we are in a LOVE relationship...with a purpose...RESTORATION...and COMPLETELY
    By His stripes I was healed.
    He gives me a good tongue lashing when I do wrong.

    Remember we are to REPRESENT HIM...Paul says we establish Law...we are to the world what He is...as His disciples we should mirror and reflect Him HIS WAYS and exactly...that we are made in His Image is beyond what we look like but what we DO...
    God is the word, and we are a word (constant stream of thought).
    By keeping His saying we conform our word, our self, to His word.

    What most people forget is that the 10 commandments are actually descriptions as to what life is like where “I AM”

    Where “I AM” there is no murdering, stealing, lying, adultery, coveting...as where He is there is NO NEED to

    Where “I AM” there is no other god, no images/idols, His Name is used, Sabbath is kept, hierarchy honored

    And if we wish to live happily there with Him...well we should WANT to get used to it here...and be happy with it...because it will be ON EARTH as it is in heaven...
    That all our days may be as heaven on earth,
    come out of tribulation.

    Imagine if there was no sin...well that is how we were created to live...it’s our factory settings...our default...so we should WANT to get used to that...DO THIS AND LIVE...and NOW IN HIM...forever...
    Yes. But we were all brought up in Egypt, and our fathers before us,
    and the sins passed on to the children to the children all these generations.
    Which is why sin has snowballed to what we see in the world today,
    with so few, if any, sin free.

    yup like a child who HATES when the parents come home BECAUSE he didn’t do the chores...or how EVERYBODY slows down coming over the hill to see a cop car parked there...lol
    Like Adam and Eve hiding among the trees in the garden, and covering themselves with fig leaves.


    yes it is a delight...
    yes indeed...now we know Whom and HOW and WHEN we may serve to LIVE and NOW forever...our purpose is clear as to why we were created...

    Nothing better knowing you can please the one you love...and how to do so...
    We are come to fulfil the law.

    yes indeed HalleluYah...

    Knowing what He expects and that He helps us achieve it...benefits not only this life but assures us IN HIM DOING HIS WAY of the next...

    The Law is like an owners manual...we dont read and do it in order to earn the car...we read and do it BECAUSE we already own the car...and in this case it was given to us and now wish to take care of it and maximize its use...

    His yoke is easy His burden is light...if you love Him...
    Amen, and thank you.
    Your words are like music to my ears.

    Ha...yup lots of confusing misdirection in here...most of it following a jewish false witness that He changed the law or fulfilled it or abolished it some other way...

    Or somehow it doesnt apply to everyone...
    I supposed that was a Gentile viewpoint.

    But it all ends with “Here are they that keep the commandments of Yah and the faith of Yahushua”

    In fact His last red letters words are “behold I am coming quickly and My reward is with Me to give to EVERY ONE according to his work...I have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the CHURCHES...Surely I am coming quickly”
    Every eye has seen Him.
    He was coming to us since we were in diapers.

    Those that LOVE HIM and JUST AS He loved us...love His Law...and know the works He will reward...and seek His soon return...not fearful but as longing for their first love....
    We cannot know how God wants us to love, without knowing His law.
    We cannot understand how Jesus loved us, without knowing God's law.
    So we have to know the law, in order to love one another as Jesus loved us.
    For Jesus loved us by fulfilling the Father's commandments.

    Oh and may Yah continue to bless you too...
    Thank you, Clefty.
    Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
    `Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Thank you, Clefty.

    You surprise me.



    Yes, we make offerings to learn how we transgress.



    It is enough for me trying on Jesus' sandals.
    God asks me to be a man, and no longer be a god.



    Your word is refreshing to me.
    Most here are preaching to not try. Telling us we're deceived if we do try.



    Yes, like puppy love. Describes my love for the word.


    Amen.



    I haven't felt so much as annoyed for over a decade now.
    Anger is a dim memory, where once I was an angry man.



    I make three day sabbaths, in the wilderness, to sacrifice as God commands me.
    But in the early days I had to make some eight day sabbaths.



    Sometimes I make a sabbath and He doesn't come.
    Sometimes I can't shake off my thoughts, and concerns for the world.



    By His stripes I was healed.
    He gives me a good tongue lashing when I do wrong.



    God is the word, and we are a word (constant stream of thought).
    By keeping His saying we conform our word, our self, to His word.



    That all our days may be as heaven on earth,
    come out of tribulation.



    Yes. But we were all brought up in Egypt, and our fathers before us,
    and the sins passed on to the children to the children all these generations.
    Which is why sin has snowballed to what we see in the world today,
    with so few, if any, sin free.



    Like Adam and Eve hiding among the trees in the garden, and covering themselves with fig leaves.




    We are come to fulfil the law.



    Amen, and thank you.
    Your words are like music to my ears.



    I supposed that was a Gentile viewpoint.



    Every eye has seen Him.
    He was coming to us since we were in diapers.



    We cannot know how God wants us to love, without knowing His law.
    We cannot understand how Jesus loved us, without knowing God's law.
    So we have to know the law, in order to love one another as Jesus loved us.
    For Jesus loved us by fulfilling the Father's commandments.



    Thank you, Clefty.
    Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
    `Paul
    commingfrom,

    do you observe Saturday worship?

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    meshak said in post #95:

    do you observe Saturday worship?
    Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    commingfrom,

    do you observe Saturday worship?
    Thank you Meshak.
    No.
    I believe the sabbaths are when we proclaim them.
    A sabbath lasts at least 3 days, so to make it weekly is a bit hard.

    These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations,
    which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

    Leviticus 23:3

    Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto Me in the year.
    ...
    Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD.

    Exodus 23:14 & 17

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Thank you Meshak.
    No.
    I believe the sabbaths are when we proclaim them.
    A sabbath lasts at least 3 days, so to make it weekly is a bit hard.

    These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations,
    which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

    Leviticus 23:3

    Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto Me in the year.
    ...
    Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD.

    Exodus 23:14 & 17
    Here goes your friend, clefty. He is a SDA.

    SDA is also trinity believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Sorry Clefty, and GT,
    it was GT who told me "can't do the commandments".
    I got a bit confused as to who I was talking to.
    I'm not used to who is who here yet.

    God bless you both.
    Can't do what commandments?!
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    We have to have faith to obey...and stay obedient...He gives us His Spirit to do so...if His Father has called us
    No one receives the Spirit unless they first believe and obey.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clefty View Post
    Ha...yup lots of confusing misdirection in here...most of it following a jewish false witness that He changed the law or fulfilled it or abolished it some other way...
    There was a change to that old law, see Hebrews 7:12.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibleverse2 View Post
    Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
    Romans 14 NO WHERE is about Sabbaths...but which days to fast on...the entire chapter is about food and diet...and fasting...some jews chose Tuesday Thursday some chose mon wed...

    Not one mention of Sabbath...the chapter begins with “accept the one whose faith is weak without quarreling over disputeable things”...Sabbath was never a disputable matter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingfrom View Post
    Thank you Meshak.
    No.
    I believe the sabbaths are when we proclaim them.
    A sabbath lasts at least 3 days, so to make it weekly is a bit hard.

    These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations,
    which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

    Leviticus 23:3

    Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto Me in the year.
    ...
    Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD.

    Exodus 23:14 & 17
    Oh good grief...including Friday nights is babylon enough...now its three days long?

    Please show your work...thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Here goes your friend, clefty. He is a SDA.

    SDA is also trinity believers.
    SDA’s did not start out as trinitariens is why the rest of christendom thought them a cult...

    They gradually embraced it to get along...

    They also don’t observe festival days

    Or use proper names...racist anti semites...LOL...never gets old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    No one receives the Spirit unless they first believe and obey.
    Unless the Father draws him...

    But yes faith compels works...

    However you dont get to pick and choose what you obey...

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