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    Hell

    What does the Bible say about hell? Here are the verses. I hope to discuss them with you. Is there anything else from the Bible that you would include?

    Hell

    Matthew 5:22 NASB - "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty [enough to go] into the fiery hell.

    Matthew 5:29 NASB - "If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

    Matthew 5:30 NASB - "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

    Matthew 10:28 NASB - "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Matthew 18:9 NASB - "If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

    Matthew 23:15 NASB - "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

    Matthew 23:33 NASB - "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?

    Mark 9:43 NASB - "If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire,

    Mark 9:45 NASB - "If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell,

    Mark 9:47 NASB - "If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell,

    Luke 12:5 NASB - "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!

    James 3:6 NASB - And the tongue is a fire, the [very] world of iniquity; the tongue is set among our members as that which defiles the entire body, and sets on fire the course of [our] life, and is set on fire by hell.

    2 Peter 2:4 NASB - For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    In this post I lay out the Greek words with links to a Lexicon for the different words translated as hell found in the OP.

    geenna γέεννα appears the most often. Twelve times to be exact. Ten times as hell. Twice or two times as of hell.

    tartaroō ταρταρόω appears once. It appears as hell, but it is a different Greek word.

    I still need help with Greek letters, but there they are with the English letters or characters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Hell

    Matthew 5:22 NASB - "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty [enough to go] into the fiery hell.
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna


    Matthew 5:29 NASB - "If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Matthew 5:30 NASB - "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Matthew 10:28 NASB - "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Matthew 18:9 NASB - "If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Matthew 23:15 NASB - "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
    of hell

    PHRASE
    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Matthew 23:33 NASB - "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?
    of hell

    PHRASE
    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Mark 9:43 NASB - "If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire,
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Mark 9:45 NASB - "If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell,
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Mark 9:47 NASB - "If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell,
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    Luke 12:5 NASB - "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    James 3:6 NASB - And the tongue is a fire, the [very] world of iniquity; the tongue is set among our members as that which defiles the entire body, and sets on fire the course of [our] life, and is set on fire by hell.
    hell

    g1067

    γέεννα
    geenna
    2 Peter 2:4 NASB - For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
    cast them into hell

    PHRASE
    g5020

    ταρταρόω
    tartaroō
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    What does the Bible say about hell? Here are the verses. I hope to discuss them with you. Is there anything else from the Bible that you would include?

    Hell
    hell is the fiery side of the place of the dead
    and when discussing hell I always include Luk 16:19-31
    the deniers hate that Jesus said this

    Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
    Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

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    Thank you for your post.
    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    hell is the fiery side of the place of the dead
    I do not know what is meant by this or what you mean by this. What is the place of the dead? Where do you find that in scripture?
    and when discussing hell I always include Luk 16:19-31
    Okay. Good portion or passage. The word here is, well, it says Abraham's bosom, and Hades. Hades is sometimes thought or communicated to be hell. But why then does it say Abraham's bosom?
    the deniers hate that Jesus said this
    I suppose some people would indeed hate that Jesus said this, whoever they are.

    Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
    Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
    tormented and place of torment are found here

    24 “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and pcool my tongue; for I qam tormented in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, rremember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’

    27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    hell is the fiery side of the place of the dead
    and when discussing hell I always include Luk 16:19-31
    the deniers hate that Jesus said this

    Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
    Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
    Punishment before being destroyed is the future of the wicked as taught throughout the Bible.

    LA
    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    hell is the fiery side of the place of the dead
    and what do you mean the fiery side?
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    and what do you mean the fiery side?
    the fire side is where the rich man went

    Luk 16:22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried,
    Luk 16:23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
    Luk 16:24 And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.'

    two parts one place

    Luk 16:26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Punishment before being destroyed is the future of the wicked as taught throughout the Bible.

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    no annihilation but there is eternal punishment

    Mat_25:46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    the fire side is where the rich man went

    Luk 16:22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried,
    Luk 16:23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
    Luk 16:24 And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.'

    two parts one place

    Luk 16:26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.'
    Did you see my first reply to your post? I would appreciate a response there.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    What does the Bible say about hell? Here are the verses. I hope to discuss them with you. Is there anything else from the Bible that you would include?

    Hell

    Matthew 5:22 NASB - "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty [enough to go] into the fiery hell.

    Matthew 5:29 NASB - "If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

    Matthew 5:30 NASB - "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

    Matthew 10:28 NASB - "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Matthew 18:9 NASB - "If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

    Matthew 23:15 NASB - "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

    Matthew 23:33 NASB - "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?

    Mark 9:43 NASB - "If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire,

    Mark 9:45 NASB - "If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell,

    Mark 9:47 NASB - "If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell,

    Luke 12:5 NASB - "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!

    James 3:6 NASB - And the tongue is a fire, the [very] world of iniquity; the tongue is set among our members as that which defiles the entire body, and sets on fire the course of [our] life, and is set on fire by hell.

    2 Peter 2:4 NASB - For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
    Actually, Jacob, I'd like to thank you for posting this. It's a great example of what I was talking about earlier. Look up the original Greek and Hebrew translations of the words hell, hades and sheol. This one of the reasons that it's important to translate the Scriptures from the earliest possible writings, instead of merely revising an existing translation. I know you most likely won't believe me, so why don't you do the research yourself and find out what the definitions really are.





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    Quote Originally Posted by dcon View Post
    Actually, Jacob, I'd like to thank you for posting this. It's a great example of what I was talking about earlier. Look up the original Greek and Hebrew translations of the words hell, hades and sheol. This one of the reasons that it's important to translate the Scriptures from the earliest possible writings, instead of merely revising an existing translation. I know you most likely won't believe me, so why don't you do the research yourself and find out what the definitions really are.





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    Shalom. What you are saying sounds good but there are no details. Perhaps we should look at the word Hades from the Greek. In the Old Testament or the Tanakh the word is sheol. It is a Hebrew word.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom. What you are saying sounds good but there are no details. Perhaps we should look at the word Hades from the Greek. In the Old Testament or the Tanakh the word is sheol. It is a Hebrew word.
    As I said, there are no details because I wanted you to do the research and prove to yourself that Jehovah God would never condemn people to suffer torture forever. This is exactly how we teach people about the Bible. If you only take our word on a scriptural subject, what have you learned? On the other hand, if you do the research, you have proved to yourself that what we're saying is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcon View Post
    As I said, there are no details because I wanted you to do the research and prove to yourself that Jehovah God would never condemn people to suffer torture forever. This is exactly how we teach people about the Bible. If you only take our word on a scriptural subject, what have you learned? On the other hand, if you do the research, you have proved to yourself that what we're saying is true.

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    When I have this computer to use I have a computer to do research online. My phone is not the best for research. But I do not know what you are asking me to do. Encouragement in a direction is welcome, but if you have any material to present you may. However, I am not locked into a view of hell. I want the scriptures to say what the truth is because they do.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    the fire side is where the rich man went

    Luk 16:22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried,
    Luk 16:23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
    Luk 16:24 And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.'

    two parts one place

    Luk 16:26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.'
    You seriously think that a person in such a predicament would ask for someone to dip the end of their finger in water and cool their tongue?

    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Thank you for your post.
    I do not know what is meant by this or what you mean by this. What is the place of the dead? Where do you find that in scripture?
    sheh-ole', sheh-ole'
    From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates:




    Okay. Good portion or passage. The word here is, well, it says Abraham's bosom, and Hades. Hades is sometimes thought or communicated to be hell. But why then does it say Abraham's bosom?
    one place two parts

    I suppose some people would indeed hate that Jesus said this, whoever they are.

    tormented and place of torment are found here

    24 “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and pcool my tongue; for I qam tormented in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, rremember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’

    27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’
    not the final place for the dead tho

    Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done.
    Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

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