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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    That's so easy to say isn't it? What if you developed a condition where your eyelashes turned inward? What if you had no access to clean water? What if you had no means to any of the things that both you and I take for granted each and every day, like internet access to post on here?
    What in the world are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    What in the world are you talking about?
    What's tripping you up? You go on about how man is "without excuse" and how things are "clearly seen" et al so are the starving in the third world not up to speed if they don't believe or something?

    Don't play coy GD, it doesn't become you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    What's tripping you up? You go on about how man is "without excuse" and how things are "clearly seen" et al so are the starving in the third world not up to speed if they don't believe or something?

    Don't play coy GD, it doesn't become you.
    Are you suggesting a starving man doesn't have a conscience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Who are the Fosters?
    An Aussie beer, about on the level of Schlitz. Seems to fit.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
    Terence Mc Lean

    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    AB, where's this sudden fit coming from? Is it your conscience bothering you? It's exceedingly odd that you would be so offended by something you insist is false. It'd be like you saying you are offended by Cindarella or some other fairytale. Doesn't make sense, unless something resonates.

    Anyway, you want offensive? Try this.

    If you, AB, die without repenting (changing your mind) about what Christ did for you and believing it unto your soul's salvation, I look forward to seeing you cast into the Lake of Fire for spitting on and despising Him.

    Why will I look forward to it?

    I will look forward to it because it will be God's own righteous justice against the worst offense left in the universe, so I can do no less than anticipate it with pleasure as part of the restitution of all things. Because it will be necessary and right.

    Besides, it will be exactly what you evidently want. If it happens, you'll have made that choice and call for yourself. It'll be all your fault when God gives you what you desire forever...nothing to do with God.

    Or me!

    In any case, AB, I cannot be the reason you're so upset, just for having a sig that reminds you of something that you insist isn't true. Nah, that makes no sense.

    No, the reason for your upset must lie elsewhere.
    Last edited by musterion; December 31st, 2018 at 08:52 AM.
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    An Aussie beer, about on the level of Schlitz. Seems to fit.
    it does, doesn't it, as an explanation for his irrational behavior, often abusive, often incoherent, always relying more on emotion than reasoned logic


    the alternative is darker and involves exploring his massive insecurities, lack of self-worth/self-esteem, possible bouts of schizophrenia or manic depressive episodes, etc


    have you noticed lately how often he brings into the discussion the terms "compassion" and "empathy"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    ... she "preaches" kindness, patience, empathy, understanding by just being who she is. She displays more love ...
    do you suppose she's an effective teacher/preacher?


    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    ...certainly more so than many on here...
    judgemental

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    There's everything wrong with it for anyone who has a semblance of compassion about them and isn't bound by pompous religious legalism. That rules you out huh?
    judgemental

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    Oh, I'm sorry. How about religious cranks and zealots. That a bit less "pompous" for you? Those who advocate the likes of Musty's sig sure fall under that category. Am I a "lib" for not going along with it?
    judgemental


    looks like her style of preaching/teaching is a failure artie, at least when it comes to kindness, patience, empathy, understanding and love


    or maybe you're just a poor student

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    AB, where's this sudden fit coming from? Is it your conscience bothering you? It's exceedingly odd that you would be so offended by something you insist is false. It'd be like you saying you are offended by Cindarella or some other fairytale. Doesn't make sense, unless something resonates.
    "Fit"? Do you honestly think that having an objection or difference with something equates to being upset or regarding it as true? I've heard callous shtick from the likes of you before, once over in regards to a young boy who committed suicide from former church members. Several folk there made it clear in no uncertain terms that because he'd taken his own life he was "down there sizzling" along with other charming terms. That he was only 15 and had had a "hell" of a life already made no difference to them. Do you honestly think that my objection to that is because I think it's true? You need to sharpen up your cognitive skills if so.

    Anyway, you want offensive? Try this.

    If you, AB, die without repenting (changing your mind) about what Christ did for you and believing it unto your soul's salvation, I look forward to seeing you cast into the Lake of Fire for spitting on and despising Him.

    Why will I look forward to it?

    I will look forward to it because it will be God's own righteous justice against the worst offense left in the universe, so I can do no less than anticipate it with pleasure as part of the restitution of all things. Because it will be necessary and right.
    No, don't sell yourself short. You'd "look forward to it" because you lack simple, basic humanity for whatever reason that happens to be. Much like the people I knew who so callously and flippantly condemned a young boy, you're just a puffed up, self righteous religionist who uses religion as a means to justify such bile towards others. A bit like when 'okdoser' used to post about how he'd look forward to seeing Rusha burn in hell. It's so ironic considering what the bible has to say about love and so eloquently at that. See, as much as your attitude towards your fellow man is contemptible and utterly lacking in love, I wouldn't look forward to you suffering, eternally or otherwise. Bizarre that you would even mention the "restitution of all things" as your belief actually rules that out.

    Besides, it will be exactly what you evidently want. If it happens, you'll have made that choice and call for yourself. It'll be all your fault when God gives you what you desire forever...nothing to do with God.

    Or me!

    In any case, AB, I cannot be the reason you're so upset, just for having a sig that reminds you of something that you insist isn't true. Nah, that makes no sense.
    It doesn't make sense but then that's because you were wrong to start with, as addressed above.

    No, the reason for your upset must lie elsewhere.
    A lack of basic humanity upsets on a foundational level as it did when people judged and condemned a young boy in years gone by. It happens unfortunately.
    Last edited by Arthur Brain; December 31st, 2018 at 12:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Are you suggesting a starving man doesn't have a conscience?
    No, not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Name calling......that's your fall back position.

    And you scold us for what, again?
    AB seems to think that love is that warm fuzzy feeling that makes him weak in the knees.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    AB seems to think that love is that warm fuzzy feeling that makes him weak in the knees.
    He thinks that love is that butterflies in the gut feeling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    AB seems to think that love is that warm fuzzy feeling that makes him weak in the knees.
    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    He thinks that love is that butterflies in the gut feeling
    "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."

    Can you guys grow up now?

    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."

    Can you guys grow up now?

    Hypocrite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."

    Can you guys grow up now?

    And you think if someone talks "mean" to you, they aren't showing love?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    No, not at all.
    Then don't you feel silly for bringing it up?

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