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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    RP cannot understand the context of Jesus' earthly ministry (like most of Churchianity). Therefore, he must mash it, smash it, blend it. etc. etc. etc.

    This has led him to immense confusion and pride. He hates those that simply believe the gospel of the grace of God and calls us all "unsaved". He, of course, being the only saved one.
    Does he remind you of anyone?
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
    Terence Mc Lean

    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You are another dead rock. Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
    Again-he spams this to everyone that disagrees with, challenges his argument.


    You wicked deceiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Do you think that God made Christ "to be sin for us" by deleting the law?

    Learn about sacrificial atonement and you might get somewhere.
    Yes-he denies the doctrines of propitiation, and identification, and substitutionary atonement-on record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Again-he spams this to everyone that disagrees with, challenges his argument.


    You wicked deceiver.
    I don't have to judge you, The word of God judges you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I don't have to judge you, The word of God judges you.
    You have claimed to be the ONLY one here that preaches the gospel.

    And you don't judge...
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I don't have to judge you, The word of God judges you.
    It judges you too ! Jn 12:48

    48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Does he remind you of anyone?
    Churchianity? I haven't been in a church for over 25 years. There are to many in the organized church that are like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Churchianity? I haven't been in a church for over 25 years. There are to many in the organized church that are like you.
    More pride.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I don't have to judge you, The word of God judges you.
    =more spam, that he litters-anything, but addressing whether Christ died for our sins, or not.

    Members of the boc testify that Christ died for our sins/sin debt, taking the deserved penalty/judgment/condemnation, in our place, for breaking HIS ALWAYS EXISTING, good, spiritual holy law, that defines the sin/transgression, for which He might die. YOU DENY THAT SOLUTION, asserting that he did not die for our/your sins, and instead, died to eliminate the law, so that no one can be even charged with sin debt, condemnation, judgment. And no scripture, nor Pate, can/does expound on how Christ's dying, can, or does, eliminate His own law. Not one. It does expound, at length , on the reasons for his dying, including propitiation, identification, substitution.


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    The law must be fulfilled and abolished or there is no salvation for anyone.

    This is why Paul said to the law keeping Galatians.

    "Tell me that you desire to be under the law, DO YOU NOT HEAR THE LAW? Galatians 4:21.

    The law will damn you to hell.

    Those that are living by the law are under a curse.

    "For as many as are under the law are under the curse: for it is written, cursed is everyone that does not continue in all things that are written in the book of the law to do them" Galatians 3:10.

    Christians are called to live by the Holy Spirit and not by the letter of the law, because the Letter (law) kills, but the Spirit gives life, 2 Corinthians 3:6.

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    Joke

    Pate walks into a bar. A drunk asks, "Say, Bobby, whatta I do to get to Heaven?"

    Pate says, "You can't."
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
    Terence Mc Lean

    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I am not through with this Forum just yet. I still have a few things to say to the many Gospel hating, religious reprobates on this Forum that are hell bound.

    WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN?

    Jesus said, "That which is born of flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit. Marvel not that I said unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN" John 3:6,7.

    Only about 10% of professing Christians have been born again. There are multitudes of professing believers that are as spiritually dead as a rock. They cannot receive the truth of God's word. No one can hear and believe the Gospel without the indwelling Holy Spirit, who is the teacher of truth, John 14:17. They hear, but they cannot believe.

    Paul wrote, "For unto us was the Gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it" Hebrews 4:2.

    They heard the Gospel, but they didn't believe the Gospel. We are saved and born again by hearing and believing the Gospel, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO BE SAVED, There are many counterfeits that have gone forward in church services or have said the sinners prayer, but don't believe or understand the Gospel, Galatians 3:2. Yet they profess to be Christians.

    You must be born again by the word of God, which is the Gospel, 1 Peter 1:23. If the Gospel is not meaningful to you, chances are you have not been born again. To those that have been born again the Gospel of Jesus Christ is everything to them. They are resting in what Christ has accomplished for them, They have entered into HIS rest, Hebrews 4:10.
    It is important that each and every person be born again.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    It is important that each and every person be born again.
    No one will be saved that has not been born again. We are born again by hearing and believing the Gospel. If you believe the Gospel you will believe that you are perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. You will also cease from your own works and enter into his rest, Hebrews 4:10. There is no room in the Gospel for religion or law keeping. We are justified by faith and by faith alone, Romans 5:1. It is not the Gospel plus your religion. It is the Gospel plus nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    No one will be saved that has not been born again. We are born again by hearing and believing the Gospel. If you believe the Gospel you will believe that you are perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. You will also cease from your own works and enter into his rest, Hebrews 4:10. There is no room in the Gospel for religion or law keeping. We are justified by faith and by faith alone, Romans 5:1. It is not the Gospel plus your religion. It is the Gospel plus nothing.
    You teach that sinners Christ died for perish in sin, thats not Gospel Truth
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    So, you don't believe that all that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for our salvation and justification?

    Then answer this? Who was he living for? dying for? ascending into heaven for and is at the right hand of God for?

    Perhaps this is why you and your friends are spiritually dead as a rock.

    Including his water baptism, to fulfil all righteousness, which is of the law, per Matthew 3:15 KJV?


    Rhetorical q., as "Pate-anity," once again asserts that the righteousness of the law justifies, saves us.


    Did He sleep for us?

    Did He eat for us?
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