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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Maybe Robert has a martyr complex. Angel left for personal reasons, and GM left because he was sticking up for Robert....even though he was far from agreeing with Robert on most things.

    But, Robert is the last true man standing.......
    GM hates Calvinism and so does Robert.

    that's why GM stood up for Robert.

    You don't seem to know your own pals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    There you go, TOL audience, from this satanic weasel, lying demon-again:


    You deceiving satanist, piece of dung.

    How old are you John W.? You sound like you are about 15.

    You are either very immature or you have low self esteem, maybe both.

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    John W. claims to be a defender of the faith, when in reality he is an enemy of the Gospel.

    To teach that the law has not been abolished, is to teach that Christians are still under condemnation.

    This is why Paul wrote,

    "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1.

    There is no condemnation because there is no law. It has been abolished, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14.

    Only those that are indwelt with the Holy Spirit will understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    GM hates Calvinism and so does Robert.

    that's why GM stood up for Robert.

    You don't seem to know your own pals.
    GM was a good friend because he had faith in Christ and believed the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I am not through with this Forum just yet. I still have a few things to say to the many Gospel hating, religious reprobates on this Forum that are hell bound.

    WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN?

    Jesus said, "That which is born of flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit. Marvel not that I said unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN" John 3:6,7.

    Only about 10% of professing Christians have been born again. There are multitudes of professing believers that are as spiritually dead as a rock. They cannot receive the truth of God's word. No one can hear and believe the Gospel without the indwelling Holy Spirit, who is the teacher of truth, John 14:17. They hear, but they cannot believe.

    Paul wrote, "For unto us was the Gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it" Hebrews 4:2.

    They heard the Gospel, but they didn't believe the Gospel. We are saved and born again by hearing and believing the Gospel, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO BE SAVED, There are many counterfeits that have gone forward in church services or have said the sinners prayer, but don't believe or understand the Gospel, Galatians 3:2. Yet they profess to be Christians.

    You must be born again by the word of God, which is the Gospel, 1 Peter 1:23. If the Gospel is not meaningful to you, chances are you have not been born again. To those that have been born again the Gospel of Jesus Christ is everything to them. They are resting in what Christ has accomplished for them, They have entered into HIS rest, Hebrews 4:10.
    Why? I mean why must we be born again if we are born into a world and age where there is NO LAW...

    Certainly none that applies to goyim...they dont even need grace since the law given wasnt to them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    How old are you John W.? You sound like you are about 15.

    You are either very immature or you have low self esteem, maybe both.
    That is an insult to most 15 year boys. If you're talking about girls then I agree.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    You are another spiritually dead rock, just like your friend John W.

    There is nothing that I can say to you, because you have no spiritual comprehension.
    The usual ignorant response from you.

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    What scripture?
    Matthew 5 for one example.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Yes, I am the only one on the Forum that is teaching the Gospel and justification by faith.
    What a proud and arrogance lie!
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    What a proud and arrogance lie!

    How would you know? You don't even know what the Gospel is. Please direct me to a thread that is about the Gospel and justification by faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    John W. claims to be a defender of the faith, when in reality he is an enemy of the Gospel.

    To teach that the law has not been abolished, is to teach that Christians are still under condemnation.
    Where did you get these strange and incorrect teachings RP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    This is why Paul wrote,

    "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1.

    There is no condemnation because there is no law. It has been abolished, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14.
    Then why does Paul tell us that we are not under the law? If it was abolished?

    There is no condemnation be Christ paid for our sins with His death on the cross and not because of some supposed cessation of the law (AND the prophets).

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Only those that are indwelt with the Holy Spirit will understand this.
    Always claiming perfection for your bogus position.

    You are a double-minded person. You make contradictory claims all of the time.

    P.S. Believe the truth without all of your ridiculous errors.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    How would you know? You don't even know what the Gospel is. Please direct me to a thread that is about the Gospel and justification by faith.
    You are self-centered and don't even read nor understand what others write.

    There are MANY people where that preach the gospel of the grace of God. But YOU, on the other hand, have added all kinds of nonsense too it. Then you scream bloody murder when others don't buy your bogus story.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Where did you get these strange and incorrect teachings RP?


    Then why does Paul tell us that we are not under the law? If it was abolished?

    There is no condemnation be Christ paid for our sins with His death on the cross and not because of some supposed cessation of the law (AND the prophets).


    Always claiming perfection for your bogus position.

    You are a double-minded person. You make contradictory claims all of the time.

    P.S. Believe the truth without all of your ridiculous errors.

    You are another dead rock. You have not been born again by the word of God. If you had the Holy Spirit you would believe the Bible. The scriptures plainly teach that for the Christian the law has been abolished.

    Ephesians 2:15.
    Colossians 2:14.
    Romans 7:6.
    1 Timothy 1:9.
    Romans 4:15.
    Romans 10:4.
    Romans 6:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You are another dead rock. You have not been born again by the word of God. If you had the Holy Spirit you would believe the Bible. The scriptures plainly teach that for the Christian the law has been abolished.

    Ephesians 2:15.
    Colossians 2:14.
    Romans 7:6.
    1 Timothy 1:9.
    Romans 4:15.
    Romans 10:4.
    Romans 6:14.
    I believe the gospel of the grace of God as taught in the scripture.
    I do not believe the things that you've ADDED to it.

    Once again.... why won't you answer simple and direct questions?

    If the law was abolished at the cross, why would Paul tell us we are not under it?
    How would it be possible to be under something that does not exist?

    (Rom 7:6 KJV) But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

    Being DELIVERED FROM THE LAW is NOT the same as "law abolished".
    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    I believe the gospel of the grace of God as taught in the scripture.
    I do not believe the things that you've ADDED to it.

    Once again.... why won't you answer simple and direct questions?

    If the law was abolished at the cross, why would Paul tell us we are not under it?
    How would it be possible to be under something that does not exist?

    (Rom 7:6 KJV) But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

    Being DELIVERED FROM THE LAW is NOT the same as "law abolished".

    Who told you that you are a Christian?

    The law exist for unbelievers like yourself, but there is no law for Christians, it has been abolished.

    Your problem is that you don't believe the Bible, No matter how many scriptures that says so.

    Here is another one, 2 Corinthians 3:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You are another dead rock. You have not been born again by the word of God. If you had the Holy Spirit you would believe the Bible. The scriptures plainly teach that for the Christian the law has been abolished.

    Ephesians 2:15.
    Colossians 2:14.
    Romans 7:6.
    1 Timothy 1:9.
    Romans 4:15.
    Romans 10:4.
    Romans 6:14.
    Oh boy...

    They resent you because IF there is no more Law (since the cross abolished it) then there would no longer be need of grace...

    That the law was not for them should be enough but...

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