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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    This headline is flat-out false from what I can find. The Ohio law for example still allows childkilling by D&E.
    Send an email to LifeNews.com and let us know how they reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Send an email to LifeNews.com and let us know how they reply.
    Uh, OK.

    Untill such an eventuality, would you like to retract OP, as it is completely false:


    No person shall knowingly perform or attempt to
    perform a dismemberment abortion when the dismemberment abortion
    is not necessary
    , in reasonable medical judgment, to preserve
    the life or physical health of the mother as a result of the
    mother's life or physical health being endangered by a serious
    risk of the substantial and irreversible physical impairment of
    a major bodily function.



    From the text of the law, but not from the Ohio State Web site, which — typical of government-run stuff — is terrible.
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    Also:


    "This section does not prohibit the suction curettage
    procedure of abortion, or the suction aspiration procedure of
    abortion."



    This so-called victory will do nothing to save any child.
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    This is murder no matter what you call it

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    It is not okay.

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    The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics concluded that an African American male born in 2001 has a 32% chance of going to jail in his lifetime, while a Latino male has a 17% chance, and a white male only has a 6% chance.

    The incarceration rate of blacks is more than three times higher than their representation in the general population.

    Rates at which African Americans (blacks) are reported to both commit and are the victim of homicide is about six to eight times higher than that of white Americans.

    Nearly 60% of all hate crimes are committed by white perpetrators.[citation

    In a 2009 report, 2/3 of the criminals receiving life sentences were non-whites. In New York, it is 83%

    African-Americans comprise only 13% of the U.S. population and 14% of the monthly drug users, but are 37% of the people arrested for drug-related offenses in America.

    Reports show that nearly 50% of Americans under 18 are minorities. The trend projects a reversal in the population where by 2030, the majority of people under 18 will be of color, and by 2042 nonwhites will be the majority of the U.S. population

    https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts...discrimination

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States
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    We can all "preach to the converted" with our middle-class morality about the evils of abortion, but actions speak louder than words and for many living in inner city poverty, bringing another child into an already intolerable situation is not an easy decision!

    Until American addresses the underlying reasons for abortions, all the laws and appointments of conservative Supreme Court Justices are merely "window dressing" masking the real problem!
    Last edited by jgarden; February 2nd, 2019 at 11:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics concluded that an African American male born in 2001 has a 32% chance of going to jail in his lifetime, while a Latino male has a 17% chance, and a white male only has a 6% chance.

    The incarceration rate of blacks is more than three times higher than their representation in the general population.

    Rates at which African Americans (blacks) are reported to both commit and are the victim of homicide is about six to eight times higher than that of white Americans.

    Nearly 60% of all hate crimes are committed by white perpetrators.[citation

    In a 2009 report, 2/3 of the criminals receiving life sentences were non-whites. In New York, it is 83%

    African-Americans comprise only 13% of the U.S. population and 14% of the monthly drug users, but are 37% of the people arrested for drug-related offenses in America.

    Reports show that nearly 50% of Americans under 18 are minorities. The trend projects a reversal in the population where by 2030, the majority of people under 18 will be of color, and by 2042 nonwhites will be the majority of the U.S. population

    https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts...discrimination

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States
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    We can all "preach to the converted" with our middle-class morality about the evils of abortion, but actions speak louder than words and for many living in inner city poverty, bringing another child into an already intolerable situation is not an easy decision!

    Until American address the reasons underlying reasons for abortions, all the laws and appointment of conservative Supreme Court Justices are "window dressing!"
    No amount of convincing against reason, against life, will work. Crime doesn't pay. And, a statistic is not a decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    No amount of convincing against reason, against life, will work. Crime doesn't pay. And, a statistic is not a decision.
    Abortions in America and the world don't exist in a vacuum - they occur at far higher rates for those living at the lower levels of the socioeconomic spectrum!

    "Jacob's" disapproval and those like him count for nothing until they start addressing the root causes as to why women trapped in poverty choose to abort!
    Last edited by jgarden; February 3rd, 2019 at 04:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    And now we have the abomination in New York:
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tw...r-vile-abortio

    and this in Virginia:

    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Abortions in America and the world don't exist in a vacuum - the occur at far higher rates for those living at the lower levels of the socioeconomic spectrum!

    "Jacob's" disapproval and those like him count for nothing until they start addressing the root causes as to why women trapped in poverty choose to abort!
    @jgarden - should a woman have the right to choose to kill her baby after it is born?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post




    Abortions in America and the world don't exist in a vacuum - the occur at far higher rates for those living at the lower levels of the socioeconomic spectrum!

    "Jacob's" disapproval and those like him count for nothing until they start addressing the root causes as to why women trapped in poverty choose to abort!
    No.

    If that was a reason it does not take away from the precedent of life in all cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Until American addresses the underlying reasons for abortions, all the laws and appointments of conservative Supreme Court Justices are merely "window dressing" masking the real problem!
    Exactly backward. With a society desensitized to the murder of the most vulnerable being endorsed by its government, why are you surprised that its people are barbaric in the rest of their time?

    Bring justice. End state-sanctioned murder. Watch society improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Exactly backward. With a society desensitized to the murder of the most vulnerable being endorsed by its government, why are you surprised that its people are barbaric in the rest of their time?

    Bring justice. End state-sanctioned murder. Watch society improve.
    That would require placing every pregnant under continuous government surveillance 24/7 for 9 months to ensure that none sought out an abortion or resorted to triggering a miscarriage!

    Beyond the obvious legal and financial constraints, no democratic society would tolerate that degree of government intrusion into their private lives!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    That would require placing every pregnant under continuous government surveillance 24/7 for 9 months to ensure that none sought out an abortion or resorted to triggering a miscarriage!

    Beyond the obvious legal and financial constraints, no democratic society would tolerate that degree of government intrusion into their private lives!
    No, it wouldn't.

    You're asking the question, "how do we prevent a crime from happening."

    You need to be asking, "how do we make it so that people don't WANT to commit a crime."

    Deterrence, not prevention, is what works.

    The deterrent that would keep people from wanting to have an abortion is the death penalty for anyone who performs an abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    That would require placing every pregnant under continuous government surveillance.
    This is an appeal to consequences, argumentum ad consequentiam — a logical fallacy. Have you got a rational objection or something to bolster your initial claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    That would require placing every pregnant (woman) under continuous government surveillance 24/7 for 9 months to ensure that none sought out an abortion or resorted to triggering a miscarriage ....
    i can't think of any law that we have in the US that mandates 24/7 monitoring of the potential victim and the potential criminal

    not laws about murder

    not laws about rape

    not laws about child molesting

    why would you think laws banning abortion would have to be different?

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