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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    That is besides the point....
    probably not to your wife's best friend and her husband and their families and friends - if that drunk had stayed in his own backyard and drunk 'til he passed out instead of going out on the public roadways, nobody would have cared

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Why should it be illegal? Please answer per Tambora's point she made.
    Let me clarify.

    There is nothing wrong with using pot for medicinal purposes.

    However, prescribing weed so that the patient can "self medicate" is irresponsible.

    At the very least, weed (and even the most mind-altering drugs, like opiates) should ONLY be available as a strictly controlled substance and mercifully prescribed for medical conditions. NEVER over the counter.

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    so, we have ways to control those who want to drive drunk - it's technology based, it's not very good and it's probably easy to circumvent, but it's a start and the tech will get better if there's a demand for it

    right now, far as i know, we don't have anything similar for the severely impaired stoner who gets the munchies at 3 in the morning and decides to drive to the local Kwik-E-Mart

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    probably not to your wife's best friend and her husband and their families and friends - if that drunk had stayed in his own backyard and drunk 'til he passed out instead of going out on the public roadways, nobody would have cared
    Agreed. But I don't have to remind you alcohol is legal....one drink your impaired. you may not be buzzed, or drunk but you start losing your abilty….

    So, with that being said, either you do it for all, or you don't do it....one or the other.
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Let me clarify.

    There is nothing wrong with using pot for medicinal purposes.

    However, prescribing weed so that the patient can "self medicate" is irresponsible.

    At the very least, weed (and even the most mind-altering drugs, like opiates) should ONLY be available as a strictly controlled substance and mercifully prescribed for medical conditions. NEVER over the counter.

    i always laughed when marijuana was referred to as a "recreational" drug, because one of the side effects is a reduction in sperm count


    my stoner friends never understood the joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Let me clarify.

    There is nothing wrong with using pot for medicinal purposes.

    However, prescribing weed so that the patient can "self medicate" is irresponsible.

    At the very least, weed (and even the most mind-altering drugs, like opiates) should ONLY be available as a strictly controlled substance and mercifully prescribed for medical conditions. NEVER over the counter.
    Ok, but that didn't answer why.....you only gave your opinion...
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    This thread is great.....basically all this thread is about is "I don't like it, so you shouldn't do it, therefore it should be banned...."
    i don't like your post, so you shuldn't make posts like that, therefore I reported it and suggested that you be banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    i don't like your post, so you shuldn't make posts like that, therefore I reported it and suggested that you be banned
    Awesome!!!!
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Agreed. But I don't have to remind you alcohol is legal....one drink your impaired. you may not be buzzed, or drunk but you start losing your abilty….

    So, with that being said, either you do it for all, or you don't do it....one or the other.

    i suspect we'll look back on the carnage on the highways in fifty years and marvel at what we accepted as "normal"


    and as far as losing one's ability, i refer you to this ground-breaking medical experiment by a nationally known doctor:

    Spoiler

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    i always laughed when marijuana was referred to as a "recreational" drug, because one of the side effects is a reduction in sperm count


    my stoner friends never understood the joke
    "Re-" and "pro-" creation are easily confused, especially by people who have a reduced IQ because they're potheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    i suspect we'll look back on the carnage on the highways in fifty years and marvel at what we accepted as "normal"


    and as far as losing one's ability, i refer you to this ground-breaking medical experiment by a nationally known doctor:

    Spoiler
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    mandate that all new cars be equipped with breathalyzer interlocks and require retrofits to old cars
    Absolutely not!
    That's going way too far.
    You're starting to sound like a bleeding heart leftist.

    If I happen to have a couple of beers or a couple of glasses of wine while watching TV on a Saturday evening and my grandchild slips and falls down the stairs ..... my vehicle better start so I can get her to the hospital pronto!

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    I "highly" doubt that (pun intended).
    So you're not going to address the argument I presented?

    Typical.

    Have you ever taken "a puff on some weed" yourself?
    Whether I have or not is completely irrelevant to whether something should or should not be legalised.

    In the past I have occasionally taken a puff or three for its anti-inflammatory and other medicinal effects. Even a few puffs have never gotten me anywhere near high.
    Anecdotal experiences aren't a good foundation for an argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Ok, but that didn't answer why.....you only gave your opinion...
    Please highlight where I, in any of my posts so far, have presented my opinion as an argument against non-strictly controlled medicinal use of pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Absolutely not!
    That's going way too far.
    You're starting to sound like a bleeding heart leftist.

    If I happen to have a couple of beers or a couple of glasses of wine while watching TV on a Saturday evening and my grandchild slips and falls down the stairs ..... my vehicle better start so I can get her to the hospital pronto!
    You need to learn when Doser is being sarcastic.


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    Drunk drivers cause accidents but so do sober drivers, and many drunk drivers cause no accidents at all. The law should focus on violations of person and property, not scientific oddities like blood content.

    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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