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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    islamophobe!

    no, wait....

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    I propose we execute everyone who sins, it’s a quick way to wipe out humanity!



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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    I propose we execute everyone who sins, it’s a quick way to wipe out humanity!

    I prefer justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    I propose we execute everyone who sins, it’s a quick way to wipe out humanity!

    if only we had someone to guide us in deciding which sins should be discouraged by law

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    if only we had someone to guide us in deciding which sins should be discouraged by law
    Let’s start with adulterers, which according to Jesus includes anyone who looks at another person to lust after them. That makes the majority guilty of adultery and deserving of execution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    That makes the majority guilty of adultery and deserving of execution.
    Not true. It makes them guilty of adultery "in the heart," which was not commanded to be punished with death.
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    Let’s take a different capital crime then; disobedient sons. Many sons persistently disobey their parents, so should they be put to death?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    Let’s take a different capital crime then; disobedient sons. Many sons persistently disobey their parents, so should they be put to death?
    Are the parents willing to take them before the judges and say so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    ... anyone who looks at another person to lust after them ...
    what do you think that means?

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    let's see if we can get agreement that some crimes are so damaging to society that they deserve the death penalty. I have a whole laundry list; let's see if I can get you, lmohm, to agree that a couple of them merit the death penalty

    murder

    rape

    child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Are the parents willing to take them before the judges and say so?
    I doubt many parents would be, but what if they were? Would the death penalty then be justified for the disobedient child?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what do you think that means?
    I think that statement is pretty self-explanatory..


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    I think that statement is pretty self-explanatory..
    i've been chewing on it for a couple of days, since glory asked me if i could claim to be free of that sin when i was married

    my answer was yes, because i took my wedding vows seriously - "to forsake all others"

    when i was married, i did not deliberately look upon another woman to lust after her

    Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh
    on a woman to lust after her
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    adultery with her already in his heart.

    "to lust after her" doesn't mean recognizing that the girl at the beach in a bikini is hot, it means staring at her while she walks away and imagining lustful things

    "to lust after her" doesn't mean recognizing that veronica hamel was a fox on hill street blues, it means taking that image in your head to bed with you

    "to lust after her" speaks to intent, to the reason you look upon a woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    let's see if we can get agreement that some crimes are so damaging to society that they deserve the death penalty. I have a whole laundry list; let's see if I can get you, lmohm, to agree that a couple of them merit the death penalty

    murder

    rape

    child molestation
    Murder, absolutely. I’ve always supported the death penalty for premeditated murder.

    As for the latter two, it depends in part on the circumstances. I don’t call for the death penalty for my father who molested me. I do think he deserves punishment, but not death.

    I also know someone who committed rape, who is currently incarcerated. Many would wash their hands, walk away, and consider him unredeemable. In a way I do understand this line of thinking, yet I’m trying to see him as more than the crime he committed. I want to see him reformed when he comes out of prison, and am trying to support him in this. It’s so easy to dehumanise those who commit horrific crimes, and so much harder to see them as a person rather than their crime. But in doing so, maybe, just maybe, we can help them reform?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme View Post
    I doubt many parents would be.
    Do you understand why this is the answer to your challenge?

    What if they were? Would the death penalty then be justified for the disobedient child?
    In today's society, the parents would lose the children to the state. Are you sure you want to advocate this?
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