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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Why do you delete verses from the bible, Pate, when the bible tells you not to, and warns you not to? Show us the scriptural support, for this, Pate. NOW.
    The scripture that I left out was repetitious. That was not the real problem. The real problem is that you hate the Gospel and justification by faith. You have rejected the vicarious life of Christ, which means that you have rejected the Gospel. This is why you are not a Christian and is why you don't have the Holy Spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Your post says that God is the justifier. What do you do about that? Why do you say no now?

    Edit good verse here thanks.
    God justifies the ungodly through his Son Jesus Christ, Romans 3:26 also 2 Corinthians 5:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Vs.

    Psalms 111 KJV

    7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.

    8 They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness.




    Pate:The habitual liar of TOL.
    You are just like a Gospel hating Pharisee. You would like to kill me wouldn't you? Just like the Pharisees wanted to kill Paul.

    You need to get out of the Old Testament and learn the good news of the New Testament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    God justifies the ungodly through his Son Jesus Christ, Romans 3:26 also 2 Corinthians 5:18.
    Verse 25 says God, but I think you might be thinking that I would take something away from Jesus. Not if the context doesn't say it, right?
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    In beginning He created God the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    John the apostle says, "Try the spirits to see if they be of God" 1 John 4:1. John W. does not have the Holy Spirit.
    Unless you are alleging that John W. is an unclean spirit possessing someone else's body, I don't think that was the intended application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Verse 25 says God, but I think you might be thinking that I would take something away from Jesus. Not if the context doesn't say it, right?
    Don't try to separate Christ from God. They are one of the same.

    God was "In Christ". Example: "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenritter View Post
    Unless you are alleging that John W. is an unclean spirit possessing someone else's body, I don't think that was the intended application.
    I have seen the Spirit that John W. is possessed by before. It is not the Holy Spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You and John W. are Gospel illiterate.
    Another false claim from a habitual liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You have no idea of what the Gospel is about, either that or you don't believe the Gospel, which would mean that you are unsaved.
    Always trying to be the the decider of everything. You're sick, RP... get some help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Neither one of you believe that Jesus lived for you, which means that there is a void in your doctrine. All that Jesus was and all that Jesus did was for our salvation and our justification.
    Was this Jesus "living for me"?

    Mat 10:5-6 KJV These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: (6) But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Mat 15:24 KJV But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Who do you think Jesus lived a perfect life for, do you think it was for himself?
    I think that He lived the perfect life because He was the perfect God/Man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    To reject the life of Christ for the believer is to reject Christ.
    Just another of your MANY false accusations. Please show us the POST where I "reject the life of Christ".
    I proclaim His life AS LIVED in ALL of its details and NOT as the fairy tale that you tell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You only have half of the Gospel and is probably why you are void of the Holy Spirit.
    The Great and Mighty RP again deciding who has the Holy Spirit and who does not. You are in WAY over your head RP.
    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Another false claim from a habitual liar.


    Always trying to be the the decider of everything. You're sick, RP... get some help.


    Was this Jesus "living for me"?

    Mat 10:5-6 KJV These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: (6) But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Mat 15:24 KJV But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


    I think that He lived the perfect life because He was the perfect God/Man.


    Just another of your MANY false accusations. Please show us the POST where I "reject the life of Christ".
    I proclaim His life AS LIVED in ALL of its details and NOT as the fairy tale that you tell.


    The Great and Mighty RP again deciding who has the Holy Spirit and who does not. You are in WAY over your head RP.

    If you don't have the vicarious life of Christ, you don't have Christ.

    All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for our salvation and justification. He our substitute and representative savior. What do you think that he was living for himself?

    When Jesus lived, I lived in him.

    When Jesus died, I died with him.

    When Jesus walked out of Joseph's new tomb, I walked out with him

    When Jesus ascended into heaven, I ascended with him.

    When Jesus sat down at the right hand of God, I sat down with him.

    "For you are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God" Colossians 3:3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    If you don't have the vicarious life of Christ, you don't have Christ.
    No matter how many times you tell a LIE... it does not become true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for our salvation and justification. He our substitute and representative savior. What do you think that he was living for himself?
    His life as a Jew under the law was NOT "living vicariously for us".

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    When Jesus lived, I lived in him.
    So you were a Jew under the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    When Jesus died, I died with him.
    That's good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    When Jesus walked out of Joseph's new tomb, I walked out with him
    Super.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    When Jesus ascended into heaven, I ascended with him.
    Wonderful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    When Jesus sat down at the right hand of God, I sat down with him.
    Fantastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    "For you are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God" Colossians 3:3.
    This verse has NOTHING to do with "a vicarious life lived for us" or "kept the law in our place", or ANY such thing..
    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The scripture that I left out was repetitious. That was not the real problem. The real problem is that you hate the Gospel and justification by faith. You have rejected the vicarious life of Christ, which means that you have rejected the Gospel. This is why you are not a Christian and is why you don't have the Holy Spirit.
    =spam, and evasion, and deception, more on record, habitual lying, as you have been caught, over, and over, deleting numerous words, passages, from Romans-Philemon, and delete all of the Old Testament, as you admit, and substitute your satanic "Pate-ianity," made up words, for biblical words, redefine words, corrupting the book, just like your father the devil, attempts, as he taught you-the LORD God never taught you that, wolf. And you spin it, with you having the "freedom" to delete, add to, the scriptures.


    No, you don't, deceiver.

    ANSWER, Pate:
    Why do you delete verses from the bible, Pate, when the bible tells you not to, and warns you not to? Show us the scriptural support, for this, Pate. NOW.


    You won't, as your father has a gag order, on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You are just like a Gospel hating Pharisee. You would like to kill me wouldn't you? Just like the Pharisees wanted to kill Paul.

    You need to get out of the Old Testament and learn the good news of the New Testament.
    There you go again, TOL audience-continued spam, evasion, and habitual lying, by this wolf, as he is shown that the scripture says that the good, holy, spiritual law of the LORD God, will last forever, and is not void, as her satanically asserts, but he continues his demonic "ministry," flipping the bird at God the Father, and His Christ.


    Get off this site, you perverter of the gospel of Christ, scripture hating wolf, troll.
    Saint John W

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Don't try to separate Christ from God. They are one of the same.

    God was "In Christ". Example: "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.
    There is a difference between God and Christ. God is the Creator of the heavens and the earth. Christ means Anointed as Messiah does.

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    pate to john

    The real problem is that you hate the Gospel and justification by faith. You have rejected the vicarious life of Christ, which means that you have rejected the Gospel. This is why you are not a Christian and is why you don't have the Holy Spirit.
    Listen whose talking. Why you condemn that man and doeth the same thing you criticize him for ? You teach that the same ones Christ lived and died for vicariously are yet condemned because they dont do something !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    There is a difference between God and Christ. God is the Creator of the heavens and the earth. Christ means Anointed as Messiah does.
    Jesus said,

    "I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins" John 8:24.

    Only God can heal the sick and raise the dead.

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