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    Libertarian Free Will is opposed to Scripture

    It is undeniable that humans make choices. The Old Testament has multitudes of texts that show humans making choices. Texts that are widely quoted to attempt to show that humanity is free at any time to choose righteousness.

    The Bible clearly presents the inability of human nature:

    "The unbeliever will never choose to seek God's righteousness, for the unbeliever

    - is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9);
    - is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23);
    - is not able to come to Jesus unless given to by God (Eph. 2:2);
    - must be quickened by God (Eph. 2:4-5);
    - cannot choose righteousness until regenerated (Titus 3:5);
    - loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19);
    - is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12);
    - is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6);
    - is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1);
    - is by nature a child of wrath (Psalm 51:5; Psalm 58:3;Eph. 2:3);
    - cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14); and
    - is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20)".(quoted texts from AMR post).

    Fallen human nature is 'unspiritual' and 'a slave to sin'(Rom7:14).
    Human nature is limited by its natural sinfulness(Rom8:5-8).

    Without the grace of God humans cannot choose God's righteousness.(Rom8:8)

    They can choose to be religious, attend Churches, donate to charities, and even read their Bibles or pray to whatever in times of crisis.

    Libertarian Free Will cannot be found in the Bible when the scriptures are rightly understood.
    Last edited by BoyStan; November 10th, 2018 at 05:46 AM.

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    Most persons only think they make choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    Fallen, that is sinful, human nature is limited to making sinful choices.
    Indeed. Our choices are the mind choosing according to its greatest inclinations at the moment we so choose.

    The unbeliever will never choose to seek God's righteousness, for the unbeliever

    - is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9);
    - is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23);
    - is not able to come to Jesus unless given to by God (Eph. 2:2);
    - must be quickened by God (Eph. 2:4-5);
    - cannot choose righteousness until regenerated (Titus 3:5);
    - loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19);
    - is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12);
    - is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6);
    - is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1);
    - is by nature a child of wrath (Psalm 51:5; Psalm 58:3;Eph. 2:3);
    - cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14); and
    - is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Indeed. Our choices are the mind choosing according to its greatest inclinations at the moment we so choose.

    The unbeliever will never choose to seek God's righteousness, for the unbeliever

    - is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9);
    - is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23);
    - is not able to come to Jesus unless given to by God (Eph. 2:2);
    - must be quickened by God (Eph. 2:4-5);
    - cannot choose righteousness until regenerated (Titus 3:5);
    - loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19);
    - is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12);
    - is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6);
    - is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1);
    - is by nature a child of wrath (Psalm 51:5; Psalm 58:3;Eph. 2:3);
    - cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14); and
    - is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

    AMR
    Excellent list from 11 New Testament texts outlining the total anti-God nature of unbelievers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    Libertarian free will...
    ... is triply redundant. If it's not libertarian, it's not free. If it's not free, it's not a will.
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