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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    covered this (and got attacked by the leftists here) in my "Cowards and Heroes" thread - 911 was the point of a paradigm shift - before 911 it was assumed that hijackers were acting rationally and that giving them what they wanted, not confronting them, was the safest way to save the lives of the passengers

    now it's assumed that any hijacker is on a suicide mission and wants to boost the body count
    I can ride with that.
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post

    Dr Brumley you may laugh. Your only showing your lack of understanding and concern for the problem of guns in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    Dr Brumley you may laugh. Your only showing your lack of understanding and concern for the problem of guns in America.
    I know, only liberals have the correct answer.
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    for you brum - had to dig for it - haven't revisited that thread in quite a while: http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4517792

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    for you brum - had to dig for it - haven't revisited that thread in quite a while: http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4517792
    much obliged...
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    covered this (and got attacked by the leftists here) in my "Cowards and Heroes" thread - 911 was the point of a paradigm shift - before 911 it was assumed that hijackers were acting rationally and that giving them what they wanted, not confronting them, was the safest way to save the lives of the passengers

    now it's assumed that any hijacker is on a suicide mission and wants to boost the body count
    Kamikaze changes everything. It opens up the nuclear option. Cf. 1945.
    "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    Kamikaze changes everything. It opens up the nuclear option. Cf. 1945.
    you might appreciate this - I'm going to see if I can get it to stream and listen to it tonight while I button up for the coming cold front: http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4519398

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    Dr Brumley you may laugh. Your only showing your lack of understanding and concern for the problem of guns in America.
    There's a murderer problem here, not a gun problem, a murderer problem worse than in other Western nations, and not even close to as bad as in some Central and South American countries like Honduras, Jamaica, and Brazil.

    Those countries all have strict gun control, and yet murders yearly dwarf those occurring in the US. And, the number of civilian-owned guns in America dwarf the number of guns in every other country, including every country south of our border.

    We have more than twice as many guns per capita as the next closest country in the world (Yemen), and easily 10 times more than almost everybody else, and closer to 100 times as many as some countries.

    And yet murders do not correlate to the number of guns among civilians. Which means murders only correlate to murderers, and there are more here than in Japan or Australia, and there are far fewer here than in Brazil and Colombia.

    Murderers are real. And murderers are why we have the inalienable right to keep and bear arms, and murderers are why that right shall not be infringed.


    * Note that 'per capita' is implied in the above wrt murders and murderers and guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idolater View Post
    There's a murderer problem here, not a gun problem, a murderer problem worse than in other Western nations, and not even close to as bad as in some Central and South American countries like Honduras, Jamaica, and Brazil.

    Those countries all have strict gun control, and yet murders yearly dwarf those occurring in the US. And, the number of civilian-owned guns in America dwarf the number of guns in every other country, including every country south of our border.

    We have more than twice as many guns per capita as the next closest country in the world (Yemen), and easily 10 times more than almost everybody else, and closer to 100 times as many as some countries.

    And yet murders do not correlate to the number of guns among civilians. Which means murders only correlate to murderers, and there are more here than in Japan or Australia, and there are far fewer here than in Brazil and Colombia.

    Murderers are real. And murderers are why we have the inalienable right to keep and bear arms, and murderers are why that right shall not be infringed.


    * Note that 'per capita' is implied in the above wrt murders and murderers and guns.


    the figures look even less impressive if you take out the black on black gang/drug shootings like those that plague chicago and la

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    The President and his government support the ARA. Campaign funds maybe?
    Any public show of his tears and prayers would be fake and pretend.
    That's a lie and a false accusation. Take it back.

    I support the NRA, and my tears are real....as are my prayers for those who are lost to any kind of violence. My particular prayers are for the innocent children that are beaten, starved, and left to die in their own dirty diapers by their very own parents....because of the evil among us. Not the guns among us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    Guns are a more efficient mass killing weapon than a knife or strangulation or whatever.
    People need guns for mass slayings of their innocent victims.
    You must be a young fella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    Hop Sing? Are you confusing me with your father?

    It will take a very broad brush to reform the gun laws!
    Oh.
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    wish stan would come back and answer this:
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    It will take a very broad brush to reform the gun laws!
    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what would you suggest?

    be specific

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