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    The efficacious blood of Christ !

    Many in mans religion have stripped the Blood of Christ of all its Saving, Redeeming Power and have attributed it to man. Now in mans religion its mans will and decision that does the saving and redeeming, oh they will talk a good talk but deny the power thereof 2 Tim 3:5

    Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    However here are just a few scriptures from the word of God that testify to the efficacy of His blood to save everyone for whom His Blood was shed.

    It converts those He died for into servants of the True and Living God Heb 9:14

    14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    What are two things in this verse that the blood of Christ is said to accomplish ?
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Many in mans religion have stripped the Blood of Christ of all its Saving, Redeeming Power and have attributed it to man. Now in mans religion its mans will and decision that does the saving and redeeming, oh they will talk a good talk but deny the power thereof 2 Tim 3:5

    Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    However here are just a few scriptures from the word of God that testify to the efficacy of His blood to save everyone for whom His Blood was shed.

    It converts those He died for into servants of the True and Living God Heb 9:14

    14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    What are two things in this verse that the blood of Christ is said to accomplish ?

    If you don't receive the free gift of salvation, its not yours, John 1:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    If you don't receive the free gift of salvation, its not yours, John 1:12.

    denying the power thereof:
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    denying the power thereof:
    Has nothing to do with the power.

    God does not impose salvation on anyone. I you want to be saved you will humbly have to receive it, John 1:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Has nothing to do with the power.

    God does not impose salvation on anyone. I you want to be saved you will humbly have to receive it, John 1:12.
    You deny the blood of Christ so thats nothing new. You talk a big game, but deny the power thereof.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You deny the blood of Christ so thats nothing new. You talk a big game, but deny the power thereof.
    No I don't. Jesus has provided salvation for everyone, Hebrews 2:9, but its not yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.

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    Hypocrisy Of Calvinism Huxters' Talk Of Efficacy

    In his Exposition Of The Epistle To The Romans, the Calvinist, Robert Haldane, wrote:

    A just God cannot punish a second time for the same offence. If Christ has paid the debt of all sinners, there is nothing remaining to pay in the case of any man. Would it be just that any should be punished in hell for the sins for which Christ was punished on earth? If Christ bore the sins of all men in his own body on the tree, shall any man bear them a second time?
    Yet, according to Calvinism's cherished Westminster Larger Catechism, even the ELECT, themselves, suffer at least some of the punishment due at least some of their sin:

    Q. 28. What are the punishments of sin in this world?

    A. The punishments of sin in this world are either inward, as blindness of mind, a reprobate sense, strong delusions, hardness of heart, horror of conscience, and vile affections; or outward, as the curse of God upon the creatures for our sakes, and all other evils that befall us in our bodies, names, estates, relations, and employments; together with death itself.
    Would it be just that any ELECT person should be punished on earth (in his/her blindness of mind, reprobate sense, strong delusions, hardness of heart, horror of conscience, vile affections, and all the evils that befall the ELECT in their bodies, names, estates, relations, employments, and in death, itself)--would it be just that any ELECT person should be punished in suffering one or more of these things for the sins for which Christ was punished on earth?

    We know that Robert Haldane died in 1842. According to the Westminster Larger Catechism, his death (among other things) was a punishment he suffered, in this world, for his own sin. So, in case Robert Haldane was one of the elect, it is clear that (as per the WLC) he was punished, in this world, for sins for which Christ had already been punished on earth. According to Calvinism, Robert Haldane bore, in his own body, a second time, at least some of the sins which, some 1,800 years prior, Christ had already borne, in His own body, on the tree.

    So, according to Calvinism, to whatever end Christ's having been punished for the elect, Robert Haldane's sin, is said to have been efficacious, it is clear that, according to Calvinism, it failed to be efficacious for preventing the elect, Robert Haldane, from being punished for his own sin.

    A just God cannot punish a second time for the same offence. If Christ has paid the debt of [the ELECT, Robert Haldane], there is nothing remaining to pay in the case of [Robert Haldane]. Would it be just that [the ELECT, Robert Haldane] should be punished [in his own body, on earth] for the sins for which Christ was punished on earth? If Christ bore the sins of [the ELECT, Robert Haldane] in his own body on the tree, shall [the ELECT, Robert Haldane] bear them a second time?
    And yet, the ELECT, Robert Haldane did die, so, according to Calvinism, the ELECT, Robert Haldane, did bear his own sins a second time which Christ had already borne in His own body on the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7djengo7 View Post
    In his Exposition Of The Epistle To The Romans, the Calvinist, Robert Haldane, wrote:



    Yet, according to Calvinism's cherished Westminster Larger Catechism, even the ELECT, themselves, suffer at least some of the punishment due at least some of their sin:



    Would it be just that any ELECT person should be punished on earth (in his/her blindness of mind, reprobate sense, strong delusions, hardness of heart, horror of conscience, vile affections, and all the evils that befall the ELECT in their bodies, names, estates, relations, employments, and in death, itself)--would it be just that any ELECT person should be punished in suffering one or more of these things for the sins for which Christ was punished on earth?

    We know that Robert Haldane died in 1842. According to the Westminster Larger Catechism, his death (among other things) was a punishment he suffered, in this world, for his own sin. So, in case Robert Haldane was one of the elect, it is clear that (as per the WLC) he was punished, in this world, for sins for which Christ had already been punished on earth. According to Calvinism, Robert Haldane bore, in his own body, a second time, at least some of the sins which, some 1,800 years prior, Christ had already borne, in His own body, on the tree.

    So, according to Calvinism, to whatever end Christ's having been punished for the elect, Robert Haldane's sin, is said to have been efficacious, it is clear that, according to Calvinism, it failed to be efficacious for preventing the elect, Robert Haldane, from being punished for his own sin.



    And yet, the ELECT, Robert Haldane did die, so, according to Calvinism, the ELECT, Robert Haldane, did bear his own sins a second time which Christ had already borne in His own body on the tree.
    It appears you are misrepresenting some things which is misleading and deceptive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Many in mans religion have stripped the Blood of Christ of all its Saving, Redeeming Power and have attributed it to man. Now in mans religion its mans will and decision that does the saving and redeeming, oh they will talk a good talk but deny the power thereof 2 Tim 3:5

    Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    However here are just a few scriptures from the word of God that testify to the efficacy of His blood to save everyone for whom His Blood was shed.

    It converts those He died for into servants of the True and Living God Heb 9:14

    14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    What are two things in this verse that the blood of Christ is said to accomplish ?

    The Blood of Christ accomplishes saving / converting Power for all those it was shed for, resulting in these two things:

    1. It will purge the conscience from dead works; a vain manner of life 1 Pet. 1:18

    2. It will cause them to serve the Living God.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Many in mans religion have stripped the Blood of Christ of all its Saving, Redeeming Power and have attributed it to man. Now in mans religion its mans will and decision that does the saving and redeeming, oh they will talk a good talk but deny the power thereof 2 Tim 3:5

    Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    However here are just a few scriptures from the word of God that testify to the efficacy of His blood to save everyone for whom His Blood was shed.

    It converts those He died for into servants of the True and Living God Heb 9:14

    14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    What are two things in this verse that the blood of Christ is said to accomplish ?

    Amen to the preciousness of the Blood of Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    The Blood of Christ accomplishes saving / converting Power for all those it was shed for, resulting in these two things:

    1. It will purge the conscience from dead works; a vain manner of life 1 Pet. 1:18

    2. It will cause them to serve the Living God.


    Now we know that doesn't apply to all men without exception, for Scripture declares:


    Rev. 21:8

    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    The Blood of Christ accomplishes saving / converting Power for all those it was shed for, resulting in these two things:

    1. It will purge the conscience from dead works; a vain manner of life 1 Pet. 1:18

    2. It will cause them to serve the Living God.
    Amen Sister !
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    According to Rev 1:5 what does the blood of Christ accomplish ?

    5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    According to Rev 1:5 what does the blood of Christ accomplish ?

    5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

    The Blood of Christ accomplished a purging of the legal guilt of sins Heb. 1:3 according to God's Law and Justice, for all God's Elect Loved and Chosen in Him of the Father before the foundation of the world to have forgiveness / remission of sins Eph. 1:4-7:

    That is, they were completely vindicated and Justified even from Everlasting, or before the world began.


    Rom. 5:6-10

    6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

    7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

    8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


    So as a result of the accomplishment of the Blood of Christ on their behalf they shall be recipients of New Birth in time.

    1 Pet. 1:2-3

    2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    The Blood of Christ accomplished a purging of the legal guilt of sins Heb. 1:3 according to God's Law and Justice, for all God's Elect Loved and Chosen in Him of the Father before the foundation of the world to have forgiveness / remission of sins Eph. 1:4-7:

    That is, they were completely vindicated and Justified even from Everlasting, or before the world began.


    Rom. 5:6-10

    6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

    7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

    8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


    So as a result of the accomplishment of the Blood of Christ on their behalf they shall be recipients of New Birth in time.

    1 Pet. 1:2-3

    2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
    Amen Sister and Rev 1:5 tells us that He washed us from our sins with His own blood. The word washed there louō means:

    to bathe, wash

    1. of a dead person
    2. washing to cleanse blood out of wounds

      i. e. who by suffering the bloody death of a vicarious sacrifice cleansed us from the guilt of our sins,

    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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