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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    In the context of the murders at a Pittsburgh synagogue a few days ago, I am wondering what TOL'ers think about antisemitism in the US. Do you think is is common? Is it different than other types of hate or general xenophobia?

    I am a little surprised that nobody mentioned this shooting here until now. Not even in the context of gun control (unless I missed a post somewhere).

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    Violent anti-Semitism is a very rare form of racism.
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    meanwhile, nobody's talking about the shootings in Chicago from the same weekend - all 43 of them, in which five died.

    because they're black and nobody cares

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    Violent anti-Semitism is a very rare form of racism.
    Doesn't Hamas regularly launch missiles into Israel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    Violent anti-Semitism is a very rare form of racism.
    Historically, that is categorically untrue.
    Today, world-wide, not true
    Today, only in the US- I suggest you check some facts. Not as rare as you make it out to be:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego..._United_States
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...merica/574228/


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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Historically, that is categorically untrue.
    Today, world-wide, not true
    Today, only in the US- I suggest you check some facts. Not as rare as you make it out to be:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego..._United_States
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...merica/574228/


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    100% agree. And, even if it were true, that it is 'rare;' that's still not a good enough reason to infringe the inalienable right of Jewish people to keep and bear arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Today, only in the US- I suggest you check some facts. Not as rare as you make it out to be:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego..._United_States
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...merica/574228/


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    Certainly more rare than other forms of racism, in the us

    nowhere near the epidemic of racist police officers shooting defenseless, peaceful law-abiding young black men like trayvon martin and michael brown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Doesn't Hamas regularly launch missiles into Israel?

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    Since I wasn't specific, I meant the United States. It seems non-sensical to blame a synagogue for liberalism and socialist conspiracy. A better scapegoat would be Barry Lynn of Americans United. But alas, it would only amusing for so long as he is replaced. I am more an anti-Barry. With anti-Semitism, I don't get it why a conservative Christian or Unitarians should want to go shooting in a synagogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    .... I don't get it why ....


    that's 'cause you're rational and the nuts who shoot up these kinds of places aren't

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Certainly more rare than other forms of racism, in the us

    nowhere near the epidemic of racist police officers shooting defenseless, peaceful law-abiding young black men like trayvon martin and michael brown
    1. So not "very rare"
    2. If you consider the number of Jews in the US, compared to the numbers of other minorities, you'll see that it is far too common.

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    Several thoughts:

    1. The fact that Trump may or may not have said things that you don't agree with doesn't make Trump responsible. Incitement has a definition.

    2. Why does the left never mention Emanuel Samson? Is BLM, the left wing media, etc. responsible for him? They've certainly helped to perpetuate a culture of anti-white racism.

    3. The alt-right is a reaction to left wing identity politics.

    4. Hate speech is a constitutionally protected right. People are allowed to have hateful thoughts and engage in hateful speech.

    5. The number of people who commit violent, heinous acts is a tiny minority in any given ideological or demographic group (Antifa might be a possible exception).

    Why is the Left so eager to scream about ORANGE MAN BAD and about how the alt-right is responsible for the actions of this individual, but they are so reticent to criticize Islam or the far left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Historically, that is categorically untrue.
    Antisemitism is an ancient, widespread, cross-cultural phenomenon.

    Do you have any thoughts on why that might be the case?

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    Holy cow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    Antisemitism is an ancient, widespread, cross-cultural phenomenon.

    Do you have any thoughts on why that might be the case?
    Misinterpretation of the New Testament, and use of the Koran more especially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SabathMoon View Post
    Misinterpretation of the New Testament, and use of the Koran more especially.
    The Romans misinterpreted the New Testament or were otherwise inspired by the Quran?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    Antisemitism is an ancient, widespread, cross-cultural phenomenon.

    Do you have any thoughts on why that might be the case?
    It is partly theological (why didn't the Jews accept our Truth?) I will point out that until recent times Muslims were much more tolerant of Jews than Christians were.

    What are your thoughts on the topic?

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