User Tag List

Page 7 of 11 FirstFirst ... 45678910 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 105 of 153

Thread: Why do border crossings exsist?

  1. #91
    Gold level Subscriber JudgeRightly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    On the road
    Posts
    8,286
    Thanks
    27,842
    Thanked 7,314 Times in 4,649 Posts

    Mentioned
    58 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    2147613
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    Sources
    ... such as???

    Do you have any examples? Or are you just full of hot air?

  2. #92
    Over 5000 post club fool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    5,555
    Thanks
    325
    Thanked 976 Times in 673 Posts

    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    300395
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    Sources that don't consistently get ripped to shreds by independent fact checkers.
    So how many got apprehended?
    Which is why stupid right wingers don't like fact checkers.
    I love fact checkers when they check facts.
    Because delusional, stupid right wingers only consult fake news sources.
    Where's the best source you have for how many people were apprehended at the border?
    Everyman is a voice in the dark.
    I II III IV

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to fool For Your Post:

    glorydaz (November 16th, 2018)

  4. #93
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    2,936
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 97 Times in 90 Posts

    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    ... such as???

    Do you have any examples? Or are you just full of hot air?
    Corporate television news is universally terrible, though some worse than others. Fox News is outright Republican propaganda. MSNBC is propaganda for the Hillary Clinton wing of the Democratic party, but usually much more factually accurate than Fox News. CNN is, again, factually more accurate than Fox News, but suffers from a bias towards sensationalism. All of these corporate television news outlets are massively biased towards corporate, establishment interests.

    When you look at online/print outlets, it gets much better, but you still have to be wary of right wing propaganda funded by and serving the interests of rich right wing donors.

    The Hill, Washington Post, Huffington Post, NPR, etc. tend to be fine.

  5. #94
    TOL Subscriber glorydaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    24,162
    Thanks
    15,657
    Thanked 38,036 Times in 19,009 Posts

    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    110 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Rep Power
    2147811
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    In other words: You don't have evidence.

    Duly noted.
    I have news reports....same as you have.

  6. #95
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    2,936
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 97 Times in 90 Posts

    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I have news reports....same as you have.
    Provide said news reports.

  7. #96
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    2,936
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 97 Times in 90 Posts

    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    And obviously, suffice to say, Alex Jones as a crazy conspiracy theorist. Infowars is the fakest of fake news.

  8. #97
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    2,936
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 97 Times in 90 Posts

    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Another trick that right wing propagandists like to use is having right-wing funded (often funded by the Koch brothers) paid shills writing "opinion" articles in otherwise reputable news outlets. This is the trick that they consistently pull when spreading lies/conspiracy theories about climate change.

  9. #98
    TOL Subscriber glorydaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    24,162
    Thanks
    15,657
    Thanked 38,036 Times in 19,009 Posts

    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    110 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Rep Power
    2147811
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    Provide said news reports.


    https://www.watchdog.org/national/ca...a20f9d9f2.html

  10. #99
    Gold level Subscriber JudgeRightly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    On the road
    Posts
    8,286
    Thanks
    27,842
    Thanked 7,314 Times in 4,649 Posts

    Mentioned
    58 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    2147613
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    And obviously, suffice to say, Alex Jones as a crazy conspiracy theorist. Infowars is the fakest of fake news.
    Duh...

  11. #100
    Over 5000 post club fool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    5,555
    Thanks
    325
    Thanked 976 Times in 673 Posts

    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    300395
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditio View Post
    Corporate television news is universally terrible, though some worse than others. Fox News is outright Republican propaganda. MSNBC is propaganda for the Hillary Clinton wing of the Democratic party,
    I agree with that statement.


    but usually much more factually accurate than Fox News. CNN is, again, factually more accurate than Fox News, but suffers from a bias towards sensationalism. All of these corporate television news outlets are massively biased towards corporate, establishment interests.
    The comment sections are where I take the pulse.
    Foxnews comment section are a right wing circlejerk. CNN doesn't have comments anymore except for maybe some opinion pieces. But when they do it's a leftwing circle jerk. I check those two sites and then head to abc where the article might have a slant but there's a good mix in the comments on both sides.

    When you look at online/print outlets, it gets much better, but you still have to be wary of right wing propaganda funded by and serving the interests of rich right wing donors.
    Or rich left wing donors.
    The Hill, Washington Post, Huffington Post, NPR, etc. tend to be fine.
    Nobody is "Fine". They all have an agenda.
    Everyman is a voice in the dark.
    I II III IV

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to fool For Your Post:

    JudgeRightly (November 15th, 2018)

  13. #101
    Over 1000 post club The Horn's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    New Rochelle,NY.
    Posts
    1,323
    Thanks
    246
    Thanked 358 Times in 254 Posts

    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    198313
    These people rejected asylum in Mexico because life for them would hardly be any better for them there . It would be like going from the frying pan into the fire . But Americans should stop feeling threatened by them . This is like the proverbial stories of elephants being terrified of mice .

  14. #102
    TOL Legend
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    22,605
    Thanks
    2,724
    Thanked 7,435 Times in 5,559 Posts

    Mentioned
    32 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    2147751
    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    These people rejected asylum in Mexico because life for them would hardly be any better for them there . It would be like going from the frying pan into the fire . But Americans should stop feeling threatened by them . This is like the proverbial stories of elephants being terrified of mice .
    Do you believe the borders should be open?

  15. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ok doser For Your Post:

    fool (November 15th, 2018),JudgeRightly (November 15th, 2018)

  16. #103
    Over 5000 post club fool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    5,555
    Thanks
    325
    Thanked 976 Times in 673 Posts

    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    300395
    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    This is like the proverbial stories of elephants being terrified of mice .
    Are 400,000 mice a concern to you?
    Cause that sounds like a lot of mice to me.
    Everyman is a voice in the dark.
    I II III IV

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to fool For Your Post:

    glorydaz (November 16th, 2018)

  18. #104
    Gold level Subscriber JudgeRightly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    On the road
    Posts
    8,286
    Thanks
    27,842
    Thanked 7,314 Times in 4,649 Posts

    Mentioned
    58 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    2147613
    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    These people rejected asylum in Mexico because life for them would hardly be any better for them there . It would be like going from the frying pan into the fire . But Americans should stop feeling threatened by them . This is like the proverbial stories of elephants being terrified of mice .
    https://youtu.be/7oA77tVNKtc

  19. #105
    Gold level Subscriber drbrumley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    9,398
    Thanks
    532
    Thanked 3,003 Times in 1,889 Posts

    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    591421
    The Constitution itself, from which all federal powers derive, does not even delegate to the federal government any power over immigration i.e., who can come here. It just gives it power over naturalization, i.e., who can become a citizen here.

    The likely claim of the folks in the caravan will be political asylum. Political asylum requires the claimant to demonstrate an intolerable situation in the home country caused by the government not by economic forces and aimed at the person seeking asylum. Thus, the failure of the government in the country of origin to protect basic natural rights or to enforce basic criminal laws for example, permitting criminal gangs to rule is a valid basis for asylum, whereas loss of a job is not.

    Once an asylum-seeker has so much as the tip of her shoe on American soil, she can file an asylum claim. The claim entitles her to a hearing before an immigration judge. Most of these hearings take six to eight months after the claim has been filed to reach a judge. In the Obama years, asylum claimants were set free until their hearings. The Trump administration has detained them and separated children from their parents. The detentions are lawful; the family separations are not.

    Yet people who want to work should be allowed in. My colleagues at The Wall Street Journal have demonstrated indisputably that most of the work that immigrants will do is work most Americans eschew. Their work not only benefits them but also produces family stability and increases wealth, which finds its way into the stream of commerce.

    The blanket rejection by force of everyone in the caravan violates the spirit and the intentions of the laws the president has sworn to uphold. Those laws mandate a careful examination of all who want to come here on a neutral case-by-case basis not a blanket prohibition.

    We who call ourselves Americans are nearly all descended from immigrants. Yet when our forebears arrived here, they were met simply by prejudice and government indifference. The poor folks in the caravan are likely to be met by prejudice and government force.

    From Judge Andrew Napolitano, The Camp of the Saints
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
About us
Since 1997 TheologyOnline (TOL) has been one of the most popular theology forums on the internet. On TOL we encourage spirited conversation about religion, politics, and just about everything else.

follow us