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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post

    Prior to the emergence of "The Donald" as a presidential candidate, there was no mention of "THE WALL" by conservatives as a political necessity!
    Then where did the 580 miles of existing fences come from?
    Aliens?
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    Countering exclamation marks with question marks?

    Clever!

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    The President has shutdown the government threatening tax returns and pay for everybody, slapping democracy in the face. His bully tactic- the only card he's ever really had- has failed and so now the tantrum has started just as expected.
    We'll see how many votes he gets next term. Already just getting plain tired of the nonsense and people talking about 'winning'.
    No, it's just overreach and abuse. The man thinks there's a crown on his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crucifer View Post
    The President has shutdown the government threatening tax returns and pay for everybody, slapping democracy in the face. His bully tactic- the only card he's ever really had- has failed and so now the tantrum has started just as expected.
    We'll see how many votes he gets next term. Already just getting plain tired of the nonsense and people talking about 'winning'.
    No, it's just overreach and abuse. The man thinks there's a crown on his head.
    OR;
    He came to do a job and he's doing it.
    You may not like him but he is the oldest and most wealthiest President we've ever had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    OR;
    He came to do a job and he's doing it.
    You may not like him but he is the oldest and most wealthiest President we've ever had.
    What he's doing is 'inverse vetoing'- rather than rejecting a majority vote, he's trying to force a minority one.
    Which is ridiculous. Doubt the Founders would approve, but I suppose when it comes to Republicans getting their way all that patriotic buzz conveniently stops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Yet, the right enjoys that cheap labor whilst also keeping demand for jobs high (wages low). Odds are those "undesirables" won't achieve the American Dream™ and thus won't behold the GOP.

    Great system yes?
    You've hit on why the republican Congress wouldn't do anything substantial to stop illegal immigration. They like a supply of hard-working people, who don't mind doing hard and dirty jobs.

    It's just a political ploy to hook people foolish enough to buy it. It's why republicans were generally in favor of the wall; it won't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    You've hit on why the republican Congress wouldn't do anything substantial to stop illegal immigration. They like a supply of hard-working people, who don't mind doing hard and dirty jobs.
    that supply can't be provided by legal immigration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    that supply can't be provided by legal immigration?
    Not when the same Republicans are working hard at cutting legal immigration at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    Not when the same Republicans are working hard at cutting legal immigration at the same time.

    link?

    not being a wise guy, just an unplugged guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    that supply can't be provided by legal immigration?
    Ask Alabama. They actually did an experiment to see. Guess how that turned out?
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    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken

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    from your first link: "the president and his allies said the country had taken in too many low-skilled immigrants for too long to the detriment of American workers"

    i agree

    from the second: "The Trump administration has long spoken favorably of shifting the nation’s immigration system to one largely based on merit."

    i agree

    from the third: "Travel Ban

    The first major move from Trump was the controversial travel ban, which the president signed into effect a week into his tenure.

    Trump said the temporary ban was needed to give his administration time to overhaul the country's vetting systems to ensure terrorists don't infiltrate the U.S. through legal channels. Critics blasted it as nothing more than the "Muslim ban" he called for during his presidential campaign. "

    this one I remember - his critics were retards - did that one go to the SCOTUS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    from your first link: "the president and his allies said the country had taken in too many low-skilled immigrants for too long to the detriment of American workers"

    i agree

    from the second: "The Trump administration has long spoken favorably of shifting the nation’s immigration system to one largely based on merit."

    i agree

    from the third: "Travel Ban

    The first major move from Trump was the controversial travel ban, which the president signed into effect a week into his tenure.

    Trump said the temporary ban was needed to give his administration time to overhaul the country's vetting systems to ensure terrorists don't infiltrate the U.S. through legal channels. Critics blasted it as nothing more than the "Muslim ban" he called for during his presidential campaign. "

    this one I remember - his critics were retards - did that one go to the SCOTUS?
    Yet all of that has not stopped his businesses from making use of that low skill labor some it illegal.
    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit the Coyote View Post
    Yet all of that has not stopped his businesses from making use of that low skill labor some it illegal.
    if you restrict labor supply, you'll increase wages

    if wages increase sufficiently, whites who won't take those jobs will begin to

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    Is Trump working behind the scenes to help Mexico ? If so. this could actually be a good outcome, if he can keep the American politics out - that have been finantually supporting the failings and problems of mexicos society for the last 200 years. And obviously it is not bad aspects of American politicsthat have been causing the problems in Mexico but - what if Trump found a way to build a wall to protect Americans and to protect the millions of people who have gone through the legan immigration process and signed up to legally enter the country. _ No one cares about these people ? The democrat party pushes the people who are legally waiting in line, who are taking the legal path to citizenship and they open the gates to only the first and closest ranting obvious crowd that they see on the horizion who they know for certain - these people will always vote for their programs and polititions.

    Is this legal or something good for the USA election system ?

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