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    Why do border crossings exsist?

    It seems to me that border crossings were created for a reason. When people come to the U.S. to seek asylum, how is it in any way controversial to insist that they use the crossing instead of sneaking over between checkpoints?

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    to answer your question del, it's controversial because obeying the law goes contrary to the democrats long term game plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    It seems to me that border crossings were created for a reason. When people come to the U.S. to seek asylum, how is it in any way controversial to insist that they use the crossing instead of sneaking over between checkpoints?
    As long as there are sufficient border crossings, and they stay open, nothing. But then, if you have thousands of miles of border, expecting people fleeing on foot from danger to make it to one of a handful of checkpoints might be a bit unreasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    As long as there are sufficient border crossings, and they stay open, nothing. But then, if you have thousands of miles of border, expecting people fleeing on foot from danger to make it to one of a handful of checkpoints might be a bit unreasonable.
    We tend to put the checkpoints along major road systems, Why would you go out of your way to get to where the fence ends and cross in some podunk location in the desert if you're fleeing danger on foot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    ...people fleeing on foot from danger ...

    what danger are they facing in mexico?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    to answer your question del, it's controversial because obeying the law goes contrary to the democrats long term game plan
    Yet, the right enjoys that cheap labor whilst also keeping demand for jobs high (wages low). Odds are those "undesirables" won't achieve the American Dream™ and thus won't behold the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post

    Why does it matter so much to you?
    Why does it matter so much that I would ask the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Yet, the right enjoys that cheap labor whilst also keeping demand for jobs high (wages low). Odds are those "undesirables" won't achieve the American Dream™ and thus won't behold the GOP.

    Great system yes?
    Both parties have winked and nodded for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what danger are they facing in mexico?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    Why does it matter so much that I would ask the question?
    When people have no counterpoint they will try to attack your motive for even asking the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    When people have no counterpoint they will try to attack your motive for even asking the question.
    Or just employing the logical fallacy's of ad hominem & evasion, in either case it is a lack of being able to offer a reasonable cogent argument on the subject. Reasonable people understand the motives that are driving these people to our borders however, the United States is not the repository for the ills of the world, nor is it the responsibility of United States to accept hoards of central Americans that feel breaking our laws is the acceptable solution to their problems in their own nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman View Post
    Or just employing the logical fallacy's of ad hominem & evasion, in either case it is a lack of being able to offer a reasonable cogent argument on the subject. Reasonable people understand the motives that are driving these people to our borders however, the United States is not the repository for the ills of the world, nor is it the responsibility of United States to accept hoards of central Americans that feel breaking our laws is the acceptable solution to their problems in their own nations.

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    and solving the problems in their own nations is the key

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    we should give them guns and ammo at the border, put them on Mexican buses and send them back to their own countries

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    Border crossings exist for the same reason that cities had gates in ancient days, to keep undesirables out, while allowing people with good intentions in.

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    Poor people from Mexico and central America have been entering the US illegally for the simple reason that they are desperate for a better life . Conditions are terrible in these countries .
    Poverty, lack of job opportunity, corrupt and abusive police in the control of corrupt leaders of these countries .
    Civil wars , murderous drug dealers ho kill anyone who gets in their way , etc .
    They know how dangerous it is to cross the border illegally and look for work , but they desperate people will do anything to try to get a better life .
    But one thing the conservative media doesn't tell is this : the rate of illegals coming across the border is at its lowest point in decades , ad this happened under Obama's watch, not under Trump. Reports of an "invasion " of massive numbers of Mexican and hispanic "murderers, drug dealers and rapists " are nothing but right-wing propaganda .
    The so-called "caravan " is a ragtag collection of poor, unarmed people ,including young children headed for the US border is not a "threat" to America in any way . Their numbers are shrinking and they may not even reach the border .
    For Trump to send thousands of US troops to the border to "save " America from "evil Hispanic murderers and rapists " and lazy people who want to sponge off of our government was is idiotic, irresponsible and despicable pandering to mindless fear and hatred of hispanics in America .
    What he's doing makes about as much sense as using a sledgehammer to swat a fly .

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