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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You must be going to the "Church of Screwed Up" if you believe that Acts is about the fall of Israel.

    Acts is not the model for the New Testament church, but it is about its birth.
    Neither one silly boy.

    ALL throughout the book of Acts the apostles and others are pleading with Israel to accept the Christ and ALL throughout the book of Acts THEY reject Him.

    It's completely obvious to anyone that is not steeped in the myths of Churchianity, as you are.

    BTW, the new COVENANT is between God and Israel. You probably don't understand that either.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorL View Post
    Greetings again Right Divider, I notice that you did not comment on John 3:26-30 which clearly defines the Jewish disciples and apostles as the bride of Christ.
    How did you come to that bizarre conclusion?

    John the B is simply calling himself the friend of the bridegroom there.

    Just more Churchanity. You really love Churchianity.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorL View Post
    The foloowing is speaking of the future when the Apostles will share in the rule of Jesus when he sits upon the throne of David in Jerusalem for the 1000 years.
    Matthew 19:27–28 (KJV): 27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
    The above is definitely in my Bible, but you seem to misapply what this is teaching.
    That scripture is CRYSTAL clear. It is YOU that must make up a fairy story to make it mean something other than what it PLAINLY says.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorL View Post
    The Apostles will not be judging those who were converted to become the Ekklesia, and thus part of the bride of Christ, on the Day of Pentecost.
    They will be judging ALL of Israel, just like the scripture CLEARLY and PLAINLY says.

    P.S. The day of Pentecost was a lawfully required feast day for Israel. The body of Christ is NOT under the law.
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    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Neither one silly boy.

    ALL throughout the book of Acts the apostles and others are pleading with Israel to accept the Christ and ALL throughout the book of Acts THEY reject Him.

    It's completely obvious to anyone that is not steeped in the myths of Churchianity, as you are.

    BTW, the new COVENANT is between God and Israel. You probably don't understand that either.
    There were Jews who were just told they killed Jesus and they were cut to the heart and they asked what can they do.

    Acts 2:36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

    37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

    38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.



    There was the 'church' before Paul when he was still Saul' and the church was with Jews:

    Acts 8:3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off both men and women and put them in prison.


    Read here what Paul says to the Gentiles in Thessalonia. He tells them that they were imitators of the Christian Jews in Judea

    1 Thessalonians 2:14 For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the Jews 15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone 16 in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last.


    Jews and Gentiles were harassed by their own people, and it is the same today when one becomes a Christian.
    Last edited by God's Truth; November 4th, 2018 at 11:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    There was the 'church' before Paul when he was still Saul' and the church was with Jews:
    Duh! There was a church in the wilderness Acts 7:38
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
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    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Duh! There was a church in the wilderness Acts 7:38
    The Rock in the desert was Christ.

    The Gentiles were without Christ because they did not get circumcised and therefore enter the covenant with God.

    It is all about obeying God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The Rock in the desert was Christ.
    Irrelevant to the POINT that there was a church in the wilderness. Your type always tries to DIVERT ATTENTION.

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    The Gentiles were without Christ because they did not get circumcised and therefore enter the covenant with God.
    The body of Christ is saved without Israel; without the law; without covenants; etc. etc. etc.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Irrelevant to the POINT that there was a church in the wilderness. Your type always tries to DIVERT ATTENTION.
    Paul didn't call it the other church. There is no separation like the one you make. You make breaks in the church even though you know it was called a church in the wilderness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    The body of Christ is saved without Israel; without the law; without covenants; etc. etc. etc.
    No way, for Paul is the minister of the new covenant which Jesus died for and made with his blood.
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    1 Corinthians 10:3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them, for they were struck down in the wilderness.

    Ephesians 2:12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.



    What made them without Christ? What made them without Christ is that they didn't obey and get circumcised, etc.

    What made them fall n the desert and die? It is because they did not obey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Paul didn't call it the other church. There is no separation like the one you make. You make breaks in the church even though you know it was called a church in the wilderness.

    No way, for Paul is the minister of the new covenant which Jesus died for and made with his blood.
    Wrong... Paul speaks of a new TESTAMENT which is NOT the new COVENANT described the Bible.

    You're going to back on my ignore list because you are just to stupid to learn anything ever.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
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    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Wrong... Paul speaks of a new TESTAMENT which is NOT the new COVENANT described the Bible.

    You're going to back on my ignore list because you are just to stupid to learn anything ever.
    It is a Last Will and TESTAMENT because he came as a man and made his Last Will and Testament. Last wills and testaments must be followed exactly with all kinds of rules and guidelines; and that is what Jesus' commands are. He tells us how to be an heir and what we will receive...the Holy Spirit and eternal life.

    It is also a Covenant because he is God and though he died he lives.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Greetings again Right Divider,
    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    How did you come to that bizarre conclusion? John the B is simply calling himself the friend of the bridegroom there.
    You seem to be ignoring what John was saying, and why John was saying this:
    John 3:26–30 (KJV): 26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him. 27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. 27 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. 29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
    Jesus was making more disciples, and John answers that he now rejoiced that his function as the friend of the bridegroom was almost complete. Jesus was the bridegroom and the disciples who were now transferring their allegiance to Christ were the bride.
    Just more Churchanity. You really love Churchianity.
    More bluff and bluster, but this is a form of diversion and shows that you do not have an answer.
    That scripture is CRYSTAL clear. It is YOU that must make up a fairy story to make it mean something other than what it PLAINLY says.
    They will be judging ALL of Israel, just like the scripture CLEARLY and PLAINLY says.
    Again, no answer.
    P.S. The day of Pentecost was a lawfully required feast day for Israel. The body of Christ is NOT under the law.
    The body of Christ, the bride is composed of Jews and Gentiles, including the 3000 from the Day of Pentecost.

    Kind regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorL View Post
    The body of Christ, the bride is composed of Jews and Gentiles, including the 3000 from the Day of Pentecost.
    Nope.

    You fail to rightly divide.

    The Bride of Christ is Israel.

    The Body of Christ are Christians, who are neither Jew nor Gentile.

    The Bride is a political organization with twelve judges, and a King.
    The Body is an organism with many members, but one head, Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorL View Post
    The body of Christ, the bride is composed of Jews and Gentiles, including the 3000 from the Day of Pentecost.
    Your devotion to your myths are too strong for you to break free. Enjoy your myths.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
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    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Greetings JudgeRightly and Greetings again Right Divider,
    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Nope. You fail to rightly divide.
    Both of your forum names remind me of those who called a particular ship “The Titanic”.
    The Bride of Christ is Israel.
    The Body of Christ are Christians, who are neither Jew nor Gentile.
    The Bride is a political organization with twelve judges, and a King.
    The Body is an organism with many members, but one head, Christ.
    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Your devotion to your myths are too strong for you to break free. Enjoy your myths.
    The bride of Christ and the body of Christ are parts of the one concept based upon the creation of Eve, who became the bride of Adam and was part of his body. The same is true of Christ and all his disciples, both Jew and Gentile.
    Genesis 2:21-23 (KJV): 21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Womanj, because she was taken out of Man.

    Kind regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorL View Post
    Greetings JudgeRightly and Greetings again Right Divider, Both of your forum names remind me of those who called a particular ship “The Titanic”.

    The bride of Christ and the body of Christ are parts of the one concept based upon the creation of Eve, who became the bride of Adam and was part of his body. The same is true of Christ and all his disciples, both Jew and Gentile.
    Genesis 2:21-23 (KJV): 21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Womanj, because she was taken out of Man.

    Kind regards
    Trevor
    Your complete lack of understanding ALL that the Bible contains is very typical of the shallow "knowledge" of the adherents of Churchianity.

    I think that many of us once believed a lot of the same things, until we studied. And now we know better than that.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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