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    The Just shall live by Faith !

    Rom 1:16-17

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

    The phrase "The Just shall live by Faith " is found several times in the scripture, here in this passage and also in Hab 2:4;Gal 3:11;Heb 10:38

    What this is, its a Divine Promise, that shall be fulfilled by the power, ability, faithfulness and grace of God.

    The promise is reality is stating that everyone who has an saving interest in the Messiah, all for whom He lived and died as their surety substitute, shall live by Faith !

    If a person never comes to believe in Christ, have Faith in Him for all of Salvation its because that one wasnt of His Sheep Jn 10:26

    26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

    Now this, everyone Christ lived and died for shall be made righteous by His One Obedience Rom 5:19

    19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    Theres that word shall again, denoting Gods sure word of promise, " shall be made righteous" Now that word righteous is the greek word dikaios and means:


    righteous, observing divine laws

    1. in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

      approved of or acceptable of God

      And the very same word is translated the word Just 33 times in the NT to include in Rom 1:17

      17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

      So logically guided by scripture, all the ones who are the many in Rom 5:19 when its stated "
      so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

      That many shall live by Faith ! Its a promise. So if one for whom Christ lived and died for in His One Obedience doesn't come to live by Faith in Him, then Gods word has come to naught, God would be a liar.

      So the only way one doesn't come to Faith in Christ, believe in Him for all Salvation, and die in unbelief, its because they were not of His Sheep that He laid down His Life for Jn 10:26

      But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep,
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Rom 1:16-17

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

    The phrase "The Just shall live by Faith " is found several times in the scripture, here in this passage and also in Hab 2:4;Gal 3:11;Heb 10:38

    What this is, its a Divine Promise, that shall be fulfilled by the power, ability, faithfulness and grace of God.

    The promise is reality is stating that everyone who has an saving interest in the Messiah, all for whom He lived and died as their surety substitute, shall live by Faith !

    If a person never comes to believe in Christ, have Faith in Him for all of Salvation its because that one wasnt of His Sheep Jn 10:26

    26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

    Now this, everyone Christ lived and died for shall be made righteous by His One Obedience Rom 5:19

    19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    Theres that word shall again, denoting Gods sure word of promise, " shall be made righteous" Now that word righteous is the greek word dikaios and means:


    righteous, observing divine laws

    1. in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

      approved of or acceptable of God

      And the very same word is translated the word Just 33 times in the NT to include in Rom 1:17

      17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

      So logically guided by scripture, all the ones who are the many in Rom 5:19 when its stated "
      so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

      That many shall live by Faith ! Its a promise. So if one for whom Christ lived and died for in His One Obedience doesn't come to live by Faith in Him, then Gods word has come to naught, God would be a liar.

      So the only way one doesn't come to Faith in Christ, believe in Him for all Salvation, and die in unbelief, its because they were not of His Sheep that He laid down His Life for Jn 10:26

      But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep,

    Amen Brother ! Every one of Christ's Sheep were Legally Justified Heb. 13:20; Rom. 4:25, according to God's Law and Justice, in Him, their Covenant Head and Surety Heb. 7:22; Rev. 13:8b from Everlasting by His One Obedience alone Rom. 5:9-10, 19 on their behalf. That is, their sins were imputed to Christ and His Righteousness imputed to them Rom. 4:8.

    Is. 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    So as a result, through the preaching of the Gospel of Peace to the Sheep by God's Servants Col. 1:20, everyone of them shall be given knowledge of their Legal Salvation Luke 1:77 and come to Faith in Him, given them as a fruit of the Spirit in New Birth Gal. 5:22.

    And that is how the Just shall Live by Faith !
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep,

    Exactly ! The goats Mat. 25:41 shall never come to Faith in Christ, because they were condemned already.


    John 3:18. 36

    18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    Amen Brother ! Every one of Christ's Sheep were Legally Justified Heb. 13:20; Rom. 4:25, according to God's Law and Justice, in Him, their Covenant Head and Surety Heb. 7:22; Rev. 13:8b from Everlasting by His One Obedience alone Rom. 5:9-10, 19 on their behalf. That is, their sins were imputed to Christ and His Righteousness imputed to them Rom. 4:8.

    Is. 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    So as a result, through the preaching of the Gospel of Peace to the Sheep by God's Servants Col. 1:20, everyone of them shall be given knowledge of their Legal Salvation Luke 1:77 and come to Faith in Him, given them as a fruit of the Spirit in New Birth Gal. 5:22.

    And that is how the Just shall Live by Faith !
    Amen a Great blessing to read this !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Amen a Great blessing to read this !
    And a Great blessing to hear you say that !
    Last edited by Nanja; October 29th, 2018 at 04:41 PM.
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    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Definition of faith. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Hebrews 11:1). The tangible "substance" and "evidence" is used to describe how strong our faith should be.

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    Does Faith have a role in Justification ? Yes by all means, however its not the cause of ones Justification before God, but the consequence of it.

    The elect were justified freely by His Gods Grace Rom 3:24

    Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

    The word freely is the greek word
    dórean and means:

    as a gift, to no purpose
    : as a free gift, without payment, freely

    something freely done (as gratis), i.e. without "cause"; unearned (undeserved);

    See without cause, being Justified, so if Faith was the cause of the elects Justification it would contradict Rom 3:24
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    The just shall be justified by their obedience to the
    commandments of Jesus Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Does Faith have a role in Justification ? Yes by all means, however its not the cause of ones Justification before God, but the consequence of it.

    The elect were justified freely by His Gods Grace Rom 3:24

    Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

    The word freely is the greek word
    dórean and means:

    as a gift, to no purpose
    : as a free gift, without payment, freely

    something freely done (as gratis), i.e. without "cause"; unearned (undeserved);

    See without cause, being Justified, so if Faith was the cause of the elects Justification it would contradict Rom 3:24

    Amen Brother !

    The Faith that the elect are given in New Birth Titus 1:1 is the result [not the cause] of their being regarded as Righteous;

    Justified freely by Grace Rom. 3:24 according to God's Law and Justice by the Imputed Righteousness of Christ:

    Just as if they have kept all the Law perfectly, by His Perfect Obedience on their behalf.


    Rom. 5:19

    For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    Amen Brother !

    The Faith that the elect are given in New Birth Titus 1:1 is the result [not the cause] of their being regarded as Righteous;

    Justified freely by Grace Rom. 3:24 according to God's Law and Justice by the Imputed Righteousness of Christ:

    Just as if they have kept all the Law perfectly, by His Perfect Obedience on their behalf.


    Rom. 5:19

    For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
    Amen Sister.

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    Matthew 4:4
    But he answered and said,
    It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone,
    but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    The just shall live by the commandments of Jesus Christ.

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    The elect are Justified before God before we believe the Gospel !

    Thats why its written the Just/Justified shall live by Faith. Yes they live by Faith after having heard the Gospel of their Salvation/Justification Eph 1:13, however they were the Just or Justified prior to that.

    Case in point is Cornelius, He was already cleansed and justified before God prior to God sending Peter to him to preach the Gospel to him.

    Before God sent Peter to that Gentile with the Gospel, God indicated by a vision to Peter that He had cleansed those Gentiles Acts 10:14-15

    14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

    15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

    That word cleansed is the greek word
    katharizō and means:

    to free from guilt of sin, to purify,

    Thats Justification before God

    Now derived from this word is the word
    katharismos found in Heb 1:3

    Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

    a cleansing from the guilt of sins[Justification] : wrought now by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ,

    Cornelius along with any other sinner Christ died for have this cleansing unto Justification prior to the Gospel being sent to them.

    Now God announced Cornelius cleansed in Acts 10:15 but Peter didnt preach the Gospel unto him until Vs 34-44


    34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
    35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
    36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all)
    37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
    38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
    39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
    40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
    41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
    42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
    43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
    44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
    Last edited by beloved57; November 19th, 2018 at 09:45 AM.
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    Case in point is Cornelius, He was already cleansed and justified before God prior to God sending Peter to him to preach the Gospel to him.

    Cornelius was stated to be a Just man before he received the Gospel Acts 10:22

    22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

    That word just
    dikaio is the same word that the promise is made Rom 1:17

    For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just G1342 shall live by faith

    Thats why the word of Faith, the Gospel was sent to this Just man !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Case in point is Cornelius, He was already cleansed and justified before God prior to God sending Peter to him to preach the Gospel to him.

    Cornelius was stated to be a Just man before he received the Gospel Acts 10:22

    22 [FONT="]And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

    That word just [/FONT]
    dikaio is the same word that the promise is made Rom 1:17

    For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just G1342 shall live by faith

    Thats why the word of Faith, the Gospel was sent to this Just man !

    Amen to both parts ! Yes, Cornelius is an excellent example of how all God's Elect were Cleansed Rev. 1:5; 13:8b / Justified in the Mind of God from Everlasting, before they come to Believe in time Acts 13:48. For in the Mind of God they were Legally Forgiven from all sin according to God's Law and Justice on their behalf, made Righteous by the Obedience of Christ Rom. 5:19; and that is before they have it revealed to them in the Gospel Eph. 1:13, so as a result they shall be given the Spiritual ability to hear John 8:47a; Prov. 20:12 the Good News of their Salvation when they are Born of the Spirit of God.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    Amen to both parts ! Yes, Cornelius is an excellent example of how all God's Elect were Cleansed Rev. 1:5; 13:8b / Justified in the Mind of God from Everlasting, before they come to Believe in time Acts 13:48. For in the Mind of God they were Legally Forgiven from all sin according to God's Law and Justice on their behalf, made Righteous by the Obedience of Christ Rom. 5:19; and that is before they have it revealed to them in the Gospel Eph. 1:13, so as a result they shall be given the Spiritual ability to hear John 8:47a; Prov. 20:12 the Good News of their Salvation when they are Born of the Spirit of God.
    Amen Sister. Now I just read an article wherein the writer wrote this concerning the condemnation upon the elect in Rom 5:18

    Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

    This condemnation that fell upon Adam and his elect posterity was not a condemnation to hell. But it was a spiritual condemnation. God’s elect are fashioned in iniquity and have no knowledge of God when they are born. Indeed they are totally depraved and have no desire of the things of God. They are born spiritually dead. But that does not mean that God views them as those that are on their way to hell.
    Please tell me your thoughts.
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    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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