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    Blame Trump and the Republicans

    Blame Trump and the Republicans
    Laurence M. Vance

    Year-end data from the September 2018 Monthly Treasury Statement of Receipts and Outlays of the U.S. Government show that the deficit for fiscal year 2018 was $779 billion. The federal government spent $4,107.7 billion in fiscal year 2018 (which ended on Sept. 30, 2018), including $600 billion for defense offense (which is actually much higher if all “defense”-related spending is counted). The Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. They are 100% to blame for the profligate spending. Republicans are big spenders just like Democrats. The only limited government they seek is a government limited to control by Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Blame Trump and the Republicans
    Laurence M. Vance

    Year-end data from the September 2018 Monthly Treasury Statement of Receipts and Outlays of the U.S. Government show that the deficit for fiscal year 2018 was $779 billion. The federal government spent $4,107.7 billion in fiscal year 2018 (which ended on Sept. 30, 2018), including $600 billion for defense offense (which is actually much higher if all “defense”-related spending is counted). The Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. They are 100% to blame for the profligate spending. Republicans are big spenders just like Democrats. The only limited government they seek is a government limited to control by Republicans.

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    What does that mean for the Trillion dollar deficits in 2009 ($1.4T -- Bush proposed but Congress rejected it...Obama signed it after adding $250B for economic stimulus) and 2010 ($1.3T) when the Democrats had all three? Obama also ran Trillion dollar imbalances in 2011 ($1.3T) and 2013 ($1.1T) after the Republicans took back the house.

    Of note, Clinton had some of the best budgets in recent memory - $236B in 2000 and a debt paydown of $360B - but that was largely due to a Republican congress holding his feet to the fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Blame Trump and the Republicans
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    Less deficit than projected and smaller budget than Obama's last.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...federal_budget
    https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Less deficit than projected and smaller budget than Obama's last.
    Oh, well that changes...literally nothing about dr's point.

    The principle difference between parties is where they want to spend and where they don't, or how much. But spend they will and how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    So it's a step in the right direction

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    So it's a step in the right direction
    Its not a step in any direction...business as usual
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    So? And you think that's a win of some sort?
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolai_42 View Post
    Of note, Clinton had some of the best budgets in recent memory - $236B in 2000 and a debt paydown of $360B - but that was largely due to a Republican congress holding his feet to the fire.
    So Democratic President, Republican Congress, Congress keeps the President under control, because, well because we all know that Republicans are concerned about government spending. But a Republican president and a Republican Congress and all bets are off? Sorry, someone needs to explain that to me.

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    i'm asking this because I don't know the answer, not as a gotcha question

    where in trumps budget has spending increased?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    So? And you think that's a win of some sort?
    Is a smaller budget not a win?
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    Seems obvious

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    i'm asking this because I don't know the answer, not as a gotcha question

    where in trumps budget has spending increased?
    He bumped up Defense, Veterans affairs, and Homeland security. He cut every thing else, pretty much a wash.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_U...federal_budget
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    Blame Trump and the Republicans

    When the Obama Administration was dramatically increasing the federal debt to soften the impact of the 2008 Recession, the Republicans cried "foul," - fast forward 10 years and those same Republican politicians want to portray the introduction of a $ trillion deficit, during good economic times, as a "WIN!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Seems obvious
    I guess they thought Trump would instantly be able to go back to whatever year they thought was the best and run the government on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Blame Trump and the Republicans

    When the Obama Administration was dramatically increasing the federal debt to soften the impact of the 2008 Recession, the Republicans cried "foul," - fast forward 10 years and those same Republican politicians want to portray the introduction of a $ trillion deficit, during good economic times, as a "WIN!"
    Being a Super Power is expensive and Trump wants to "Straighten Out" Iran and North Korea. Looks like he might just push the rope up the hill a little bit with North Korea at low cost thru his Bromance with Kim But we'll see.

    Iran might need a good thrashing and that's what he's building up for.
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