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    Teaching Kids the Truth About Marriage

    https://www.catholic.com/magazine/on...about-marriage

    QUOTE:
    I was ladling some soup for my kindergartner one afternoon when he said casually, but a bit tentatively, “Mom, girls can marry girls.”

    I knew this moment was coming. “Gay marriage” was not even an issue when my oldest children were little, but after the Supreme Court forced my hand, I knew I’d have to discuss it with my younger children.

    I turned to my son, made eye contact with him, and replied in a calm voice, “Hmmm. Well, no, girls can’t marry girls, sweetie. Where did you hear that they could?”

    “Katie said they can.”

    “No, hon. Katie is a nice little girl, but she is wrong. Only boys can marry girls. That’s how God made families—with mommies and daddies marrying and then having babies. It is always very sad when little boys and girls don’t have a mom or a dad, isn’t it? So, even though you might hear strange things about marriage from your friends, or their parents, or even in the news, what you heard is not correct.”

    Ideally, and in accord with what the Church teaches, we shouldn’t talk about “gay marriage” or homosexuality with our little ones unless it’s necessary.

    We should do our best to protect our children’s innocence and not put them in a situation where they will be exposed to a distortion of marital love, be it same-sex attractions, polyamory, cohabitation, or the like. Sometimes this means making difficult choices that will result in our being socially shamed and rejected, which is why (if we are honest) many parents start to go along with the culture instead of gently but courageously speaking out against it.

    If the issue becomes unavoidable (e.g., an uncle or sister is getting “married” to a person of the same sex), we should simply speak about God’s law being a very good thing and how sad it is when the people who make the civil laws forget this. You might say:

    "Lots of times, adults who make the country’s laws make mistakes. Sometimes they are really confused and make very bad mistakes, like when they allowed slavery and abortion. But we are Catholic and we aren’t confused, so we have to stick with the way God has always wanted things. The way he made us is for a lady and a man to get married and have babies. If we do things God’s way, people are happy."

    It’s important for our children to see us interact graciously and kindly with people who disagree with fundamental aspects of our faith. If your child faces hostility at school or in the neighborhood for speaking the truth that “girls can’t marry girls,” you can explain to your child that attacks often come from people who have deep hurts in their own lives. Tell them, and show them, that it’s possible to speak against lies without personally attacking the people who have been misled by those lies.

    After our talk, my son seemed satisfied, understanding the need for children to have both a mother and a father, and he began to eat the soup I had placed in front of him. My answers made sense to him. A child’s heart unburdened by sin and untainted by error recognizes and accepts truth easily.

    But other children, who have been wrongly taught or exposed to grave sin, might not have as easy a time understanding this, and they may push the issue with your kids. They may insist that “love is love” and that only a mean, hateful person would oppose letting people who love each other get married. You can remind your own child that most people love other people without marrying them:

    "Even though you love Daddy, does that mean you could marry Daddy? No, that’s silly! Of course mommies and daddies love each other, and we should all love each other, but marriage is for the special love only mommies and daddies have that can make a new baby come into the world."

    The culture conditions us to believe that all family structures are equal, even though, deep down, we know this is not true. Even people in secular Europe (where only about ten percent of Catholics attend Mass) understand this primal right of children to be raised by their married mom and dad.

    Case in point: a few years ago, a million French citizens took to the streets in protest of SSM. They marched under the banner of “children need a mother and a father” and were led by two prominent gay French citizens, including Frigide Barjot, a flamboyant lesbian comedian who generally supports rights for same-sex couples. She told the New York Times, “The problem is not homosexuality, but human filiation. . . . To make a child, you need a man and a woman."

    Other protesters who joined her at the Eiffel Tower carried signs that read, “Mother and father, it’s best for the child.” Anyone is capable of loving a child or being a caretaker, but nothing can replace the unique and complementary gifts that mothers and fathers provide to children.

    Finally, let your children know that upholding the natural view of marriage is not about pitting people against each other, but about two competing—and irreconcilable—views of marriage: one that is solely about what adult people desire for themselves and the other that serves the needs and protects the rights of children by uniting a man and woman in a permanent, monogamous bond—a bond naturally designed to welcome and nurture the new life it produces.

    Remember...
    • Make decisions about schooling, friends, and media that protect your child’s natural innocence.
    • If the issue becomes unavoidable, talk about how sad it is when people don’t understand marriage and why mommies and daddies are so important.
    • Remind your older “little kids” that marriage is a universal human norm from God and nature, and not something that the Church made up to force on everyone.
    • Remind your children that, even though it may seem like SSM is the norm (they won’t remember a time without it), it wasn’t always that way. For all of history up until a few years ago, the whole world—even non-Catholics and people who don’t believe in God—knew that ladies only marry men, and grooms only have brides (not another groom!), and that this is very good. Point out how strange it is that, just recently, a few people wanted to change the law in a really big hurry, and now they tell us that the world’s age-old understanding of marriage is bad! Your children will get that something there is just not right


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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post

    Teaching Kids the Truth About Marriage

    https://www.catholic.com/magazine/on...about-marriage

    QUOTE:
    I was ladling some soup for my kindergartner one afternoon when he said casually, but a bit tentatively, “Mom, girls can marry girls.”

    I knew this moment was coming. “Gay marriage” was not even an issue when my oldest children were little, but after the Supreme Court forced my hand, I knew I’d have to discuss it with my younger children.

    I turned to my son, made eye contact with him, and replied in a calm voice, “Hmmm. Well, no, girls can’t marry girls, sweetie. Where did you hear that they could?”

    “Katie said they can.”

    “No, hon. Katie is a nice little girl, but she is wrong. Only boys can marry girls. That’s how God made families—with mommies and daddies marrying and then having babies. It is always very sad when little boys and girls don’t have a mom or a dad, isn’t it? So, even though you might hear strange things about marriage from your friends, or their parents, or even in the news, what you heard is not correct.”

    Ideally, and in accord with what the Church teaches, we shouldn’t talk about “gay marriage” or homosexuality with our little ones unless it’s necessary.


    Why not "what God/the Bible teaches"?

    Wouldn't that be even better? Because the Catholic church can be wrong sometimes. (not that they are here).

    We should do our best to protect our children’s innocence and not put them in a situation where they will be exposed to a distortion of marital love, be it same-sex attractions, polyamory, cohabitation, or the like. Sometimes this means making difficult choices that will result in our being socially shamed and rejected, which is why (if we are honest) many parents start to go along with the culture instead of gently but courageously speaking out against it.
    Persecution for God's sake is something to rejoice in.

    If the issue becomes unavoidable (e.g., an uncle or sister is getting “married” to a person of the same sex), we should
    Condemn them for breaking God's law, and tell them that they are not welcome around your family unless and until they repent, and then not let them around your family until they do.

    We should tell them that what they are doing is deserving of the death penalty, that it's an abomination to God.

    simply speak about God’s law being a very good thing and how sad it is when the people who make the civil laws forget this. You might say:

    "Lots of times, adults who make the country’s laws make mistakes. Sometimes they are really confused and make very bad mistakes, like when they allowed slavery and abortion. But we are Catholic and we aren’t confused, so we have to stick with the way God has always wanted things. The way he made us is for a lady and a man to get married and have babies. If we do things God’s way, people are happy."
    While I agree with this, in that it's a good way to speak to children about this issue, it's not enough.

    It’s important for our children to see us interact graciously and kindly with people who disagree with fundamental aspects of our faith. If your child faces hostility at school
    Here's the solution for protecting your kids from people who would teach them that right is wrong and wrong is right:

    Homeschool them!

    or in the neighborhood for speaking the truth that “girls can’t marry girls,” you can explain to your child that attacks often come from people who have deep hurts in their own lives. Tell them, and show them, that it’s possible to speak against lies without personally attacking the people who have been misled by those lies.

    After our talk, my son seemed satisfied, understanding the need for children to have both a mother and a father, and he began to eat the soup I had placed in front of him. My answers made sense to him. A child’s heart unburdened by sin and untainted by error recognizes and accepts truth easily.

    But other children, who have been wrongly taught or exposed to grave sin, might not have as easy a time understanding this, and they may push the issue with your kids. They may insist that “love is love” and that only a mean, hateful person would oppose letting people who love each other get married. You can remind your own child that most people love other people without marrying them:

    "Even though you love Daddy, does that mean you could marry Daddy? No, that’s silly! Of course mommies and daddies love each other, and we should all love each other, but marriage is for the special love only mommies and daddies have that can make a new baby come into the world."

    The culture conditions us to believe that all family structures are equal, even though, deep down, we know this is not true. Even people in secular Europe (where only about ten percent of Catholics attend Mass) understand this primal right of children to be raised by their married mom and dad.

    Case in point: a few years ago, a million French citizens took to the streets in protest of SSM. They marched under the banner of “children need a mother and a father” and were led by two prominent gay French citizens, including Frigide Barjot, a flamboyant lesbian comedian who generally supports rights for same-sex couples. She told the New York Times, “The problem is not homosexuality, but human filiation. . . . To make a child, you need a man and a woman."

    Other protesters who joined her at the Eiffel Tower carried signs that read, “Mother and father, it’s best for the child.” Anyone is capable of loving a child or being a caretaker, but nothing can replace the unique and complementary gifts that mothers and fathers provide to children.

    Finally, let your children know that upholding the natural view of marriage is not about pitting people against each other, but about two competing—and irreconcilable—views of marriage: one that is solely about what adult people desire for themselves and the other that serves the needs and protects the rights of children by uniting a man and woman in a permanent, monogamous bond—a bond naturally designed to welcome and nurture the new life it produces.

    Remember...
    • Make decisions about schooling, friends, and media that protect your child’s natural innocence.
    • If the issue becomes unavoidable, talk about how sad it is when people don’t understand marriage and why mommies and daddies are so important.
    • Remind your older “little kids” that marriage is a universal human norm from God and nature, and not something that the Church made up to force on everyone.
    • Remind your children that, even though it may seem like SSM is the norm (they won’t remember a time without it), it wasn’t always that way. For all of history up until a few years ago, the whole world—even non-Catholics and people who don’t believe in God—knew that ladies only marry men, and grooms only have brides (not another groom!), and that this is very good. Point out how strange it is that, just recently, a few people wanted to change the law in a really big hurry, and now they tell us that the world’s age-old understanding of marriage is bad! Your children will get that something there is just not right

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Why not "what God/the Bible teaches"?
    Wouldn't that be even better? ........
    Are you seriously going to pick this apart? I'm not going to get into a denominational argument in the politics section

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    Like it or not, same sex marriage is now legal in America . If you don't like it, tough noogies . Don't marry someone of the same sex . Who is forcing you to do this ? No one .
    I wonder, how is SSM harmful to other people ? Does it interfere with the lives and marriages of opposite sex couples ? Does it harm them and violate with their civil and human rights ?
    Does it prevent opposite sex couples from getting married and having children ?
    Is SSM harmful to children who are brought up by same sex couples ? Will it turn them gay and subject them to risk of sexual molestation ?
    The answer to all these questions is NO .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    Like it or not, same sex marriage is now legal in America .

    like it or not, so is abortion, divorce, pornography, adultery, etc etc etc

    as Christians, as responsible parents, it's every American's duty to teach their children the difference between "legal" and "moral"


    and you can't do that without God

    and God's pretty clear on homosexuality

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    like it or not, so is abortion, divorce, pornography, adultery, etc etc etc

    as Christians, as responsible parents, it's every American's duty to teach their children the difference between "legal" and "moral" These are totally false comparisons . "Comparing SSM to abortion, adultery , divorce and pornography etc is totally specious . Divorce is absolutely necessary and not immoral in nay way . To force women who are being abused physically and mentally to remain married is immoral . Pornography is nowhere near as bad as conservatives say it is. It has existed for over 2,000 years and is nowhere near as immoral as oppressing people for religious reasons .


    and you can't do that without God

    and God's pretty clear on homosexuality

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    OK Doser , "God is pretty clear on homosexuality ?" He's also clear that eating pork and shellfish is an abomination , as well as cutting your hair and wearing tattoos . He's opposed to farmers planting two or more different crops on one field, wearing clothing with more than one kind of fabric etc .
    God also says that disobedient children should be put to death , as well as anyone who works on the Sabbath . And not everyone agrees on which day should be the Sabbath .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    OK Doser , "God is pretty clear on homosexuality ?" He's also clear that eating pork and shellfish is an abomination , as well as cutting your hair and wearing tattoos . He's opposed to farmers planting two or more different crops on one field, wearing clothing with more than one kind of fabric etc .
    God also says that disobedient children should be put to death , as well as anyone who works on the Sabbath . And not everyone agrees on which day should be the Sabbath .
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    OK Doser , "God is pretty clear on homosexuality?

    Yes, He is

    Those who engage in homosexual activity are to be put to death

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    OK Doser , "God is pretty clear on homosexuality ?" He's also clear that eating pork and shellfish is an abomination , as well as cutting your hair and wearing tattoos . He's opposed to farmers planting two or more different crops on one field, wearing clothing with more than one kind of fabric etc .
    God also says that disobedient children should be put to death , as well as anyone who works on the Sabbath . And not everyone agrees on which day should be the Sabbath .
    Again, it's only the ultra fundamentalists/zealots and trolls who go on about killing gay people and well, "executing" people in general who don't live up to a certain "standard". Most Christians don't want a bar of it.
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    Teaching Kids the Truth About Marriage

    If "CatholicCrusader" had been talking to her daughter prior to 1964, she may have lived in one of the 19 states in America where marriage between "blacks" and "whites" was still deemed illegal!

    Contrary to popular opinion amongst conservative Christians, "marriage" has and will continue to be an evolving institution!

    "Marriage" is influenced by both secular and religious considerations - given that one of the guiding principles that America was founded on was based on the separation of Church and State, the government can no more deny citizens the right to marry irrespective of their sexual orientation than it can deny the LBGTQ community the right to vote!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Again, it's only the ultra fundamentalists/zealots and trolls who go on about killing gay people and well, "executing" people in general who don't live up to a certain "standard". Most Christians don't want a bar of it.
    Nice to see you speak for "most Christians"

    Was there a vote?

    Were you given a certificate to act as the official spokesperson for "most Christians?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Are you seriously going to pick this apart?
    You posted this on a public forum.

    You should expect to have it analysed and picked apart.

    I'm not going to get into a denominational argument in the politics section

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