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    Heart stops beating.

    Does a man die because his heart stops beating or does a man's heart stops beating because he has died?

    This is a spiritual question so no secular science nonsense.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    A man can live without his heart beating

    They do it all the time in transplant surgery

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    And it would be a good thing if you read and understood the OP before posting something irrelevant and stupid.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    My bad - I felt sorry for you, that everybody was ignoring you


    Now I see why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    And it would be a good thing if you read and understood the OP before posting something irrelevant and stupid.
    I said
    lol Go easy on my shadow if he didnt say something stupid he wouldnt have nothing to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Does a man die because his heart stops beating or does a man's heart stops beating because he has died?

    This is a spiritual question so no secular science nonsense.
    Typically the heart stops beating before a person dies, which is why a person can live if his heart is restarted after it stops.

    The Bible says that the life is in the blood.

    Leviticus 17:11
    11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.


    The life in the blood is related to the breath of life.

    Genesis 2:7
    7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



    For those that want a scientific explanation:
    When we breathe in, we bring oxygen into our bodies.
    Our blood gathers the oxygen from our lungs.
    The blood carries the oxygen to the cells of the body where it is converted into energy through a process called cellular respiration.

    If we stop breathing, we can't bring oxygen into our bodies and we die.
    If our heart stops beating, our blood can't carry oxygen to our cells and we die.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    My bad - I felt sorry for you, that everybody was ignoring you


    Now I see why
    The most wonderful comfort I have is the fact your words were weighed before your intentions brought forth a thought. In other words your lies are known.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    That is indeed a wonderful comfort, I suppose


    If you're retarded

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    A pretence at spiritual understanding is soon uncovered by the words spoken or written by the great pretender.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    The most wonderful comfort I have is the fact your words were weighed before your intentions brought forth a thought. In other words your lies are known.
    Doser is heartless so the question escapes him.

    As such...one may live long after the heart gives way.
    _/\_

    Christians: "I - a stranger and afraid - in a world I never made.." -- Houseman

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    death is when the spirit leaves

    Act 7:59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

    Luk 23:46 Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!" And having said this he breathed his last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    death is when the spirit leaves

    Act 7:59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

    Luk 23:46 Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!" And having said this he breathed his last.
    "The rain in Spain falls mainly on the Plain".

    This doesn't answer the OP either.

    Try reading the OP before you start typing random answers.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Doser is heartless so the question escapes him.

    As such...one may live long after the heart gives way.
    that's why i have to take these CPR refresher courses every year

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    A person dies when they are unable to sustain their life by breathing on their own.


    Ecclesiastes 12:7

    Our bodies will return to the dust of the earth, and the breath of life will go back to God, who gave it to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    that's why i have to take these CPR refresher courses every year
    Would you apply those mandatory CPR skills to an adultress or just let her die?
    _/\_

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