Reply With QuoteNanja (October 9th, 2018)
You need to explain how that one who is lost has the ability to believe the gospel. Paul says the lost have the Gospel concealed from them. That word hid in the original is kalyptōand means:Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart
to hide, veil
- to hinder the knowledge of a thing
Not only that the word is in the perfect tense denoting that its a complted action from the past with results into the present. So as long as a person is in a lost state the Gospel is hidden , they wont be able to come into the knowledge of the truth.
"... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
Nanja (October 9th, 2018)
Because the gospel comes in power and in the Holy Spirit (1 Thess.1:5). Sinners who believe are regenerated or born again by the gospel:
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God...And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you" (1 Pet.1:23,25).
If you are right then the Lord Jesus was also born lost and dead in sins because He was made like His brethren IN ALL THINGS!
You havent explained how a lost person can believe the gospel when its concealed from them.
"... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
Nanja (October 9th, 2018)
More blasphemy. Man is born lost, spiritually dead in sin, mind blinded by the god of this world. So please tell me how a lost person can believe what is concealed from their mind ?
"... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
Nanja (October 9th, 2018)
It is concealed from some of those who are perishing because the god of this age has blinded their minds to the light of the gospel.
I actually believe that the Lord Jesus was made like His brethren IN ALL THINGS because that is what we read at Hebrews 2:17. But you refute what is so plain in the Scriptures because you put more faith in what some people say about the Scriptures than you do in what the Scriptures actually say.
It's concealed to them which are lost. So how can the lost believe the Gospel?
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"... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
Nanja (October 9th, 2018)
Because the gospel comes in power and in the Holy Spirit (1 Thess.1:5).
That's a whole different subject in Heb 2. I don't believe you believe in the same Jesus as i anyway. You are evading the fact that lost people cant believe the Gospel because its hidden from them.
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"... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
Nanja (October 9th, 2018)
The Lord Jesus Who I believe in was made like His brethren in ALL THINGS.
The Jesus who you believe in was made like His brethren in only SOME THINGS!
The jesus you believe in I dont believe in. So you still havent explained how a lost person can believe the Gospel. See ts hidden to the Lost 2 Cor 4:3
"... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
Nanja (October 9th, 2018)
Not at all. You are demanding such because you cannot wrap your head around the fact that humans are born dead in their trespasses and sins. You cannot accept what God says and you are scrambling to prop your crutch up. Good luck with that.
Correct. Jerry is blind to the fact that humans are dead in their trespasses and sins and thus they cannot believe until God makes them alive in Christ.
How do we/you know that you are not one of the "lost people," and that you are one of "the elect?"
Years being asked that question, and silencio.
Come on, bedeviled666-spam another copy'npaste sound byte/spam of yours. Please?
Saint John W
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