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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    You remain in disbelief of the scriptures and deny the Power of the Blood of Christ to save all for whom it was shed.

    The God that you serve is unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous and is not the God of the Bible. What you believe about God and his Son Jesus Christ is what will condemn you to hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The God that you serve is unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous and is not the God of the Bible. What you believe about God and his Son Jesus Christ is what will condemn you to hell.
    You teach sinners Christ died for are condemned to hell which makes His death of no effect !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You teach sinners Christ died for are condemned to hell which makes His death of no effect !
    No effect for you, because you have not received Christ as your savior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    No effect for you, because you have not received Christ as your savior.
    You admitted that Christs death is made of no effect, so thats unbelief
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You admitted that Christs death is made of no effect, so thats unbelief
    No effect for unbelievers like you. But for those that believe its... "The power of God unto salvation" Romans 1:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    No effect for unbelievers like you. But for those that believe its... "The power of God unto salvation" Romans 1:16
    Again you admit that Christs death is of non effect, which is blasphemy and unbelief
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Again you admit that Christs death is of non effect, which is blasphemy and unbelief
    It is no effect for Christ rejecters like yourself. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you, Romans 10:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FineLinen View Post
    The love and grace of our great God is unmerited by any and all of the broken wrecks of sin. ALL!
    It is a shame you are trying to deny God the pleasure of finding shining gems for Himself from among the dregs of humanity.

    The only way to merit God's Grace (favor) is to please Him.
    We can try to please God, but only God can determine whether He is pleased with our feeble efforts, not you.

    God was pleased when Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice.
    God was pleased when Noah prepared an ark to the saving of his house.
    God was pleased when Abraham went out, not knowing where he as going, and sojourned in the land of promise.
    God was pleased when Sara conceived and delivered a child when she was past age.
    God was pleased when Abraham offered up Isaac.

    The Bible tells us what we need to do to try to please God and to try to merit God's Grace (favor).

    The Bible also warns us over and over about not doing the things that do not please God.

    1 Corinthians 10:5-12
    5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
    6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
    7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
    8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
    9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
    10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
    11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
    12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.



    We can choose to do the things that do not please God and ensure our destruction in the lake of fire.
    We can damn ourselves through our thoughts and actions.

    We can choose to do the things that please God and hope that He is pleased enough to choose us as a gift for Himself.
    We cannot save ourselves by doing those things, but we might please God enough for Him to choose to save us.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    It is no effect for Christ rejecters like yourself. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you, Romans 10:13.
    B57 basically posts the same thing over and over again. He's got a real problem. I think he's stuck in neutral, intellectually speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    It is no effect for Christ rejecters like yourself. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you, Romans 10:13.
    You still preach Christs death is of no effect, thats blasphemy ! You are saying that its no effect for sinners !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You still preach Christs death is of no effect, thats blasphemy ! You are saying that its no effect for sinners !
    You're TRULY a real, honest to goodness, CHARACTER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    B57 basically posts the same thing over and over again. He's got a real problem. I think he's stuck in neutral, intellectually speaking.
    Yes, I suppose that those that simply repeat themselves time and again may have some redundancy issues if they are reluctant to take the time to stand still long enough and subject their repetitive opinions to some actual scrutiny by others. Assertions come easy to all of us. But they contain no truth value unless some effort is taken to substantiate the mere claim via honest back-and-forth discussion.

    Unfortunately, not a few tend to make assertions, then fade away and let others do the heavy-lifting for them, while they sit on the sidelines weighing in with the occasioned "Amen!" "Good post!" etc. Cheerleaders. Who really do not play the game, but only whip the crowd into frenzy. They serve a purpose, if for nothing else, entertaining the crowd. Of course, cheerleaders are involved in the game, but only those actually playing at the game are committed.

    Some just prefer to be the egg in a ham and egg breakfast. One animal is involved, the other, alas, is committed and actually loses his life over the commitment.

    Thus, metaphors aside, if that "involved" behavior is one's norm, then repetitiveness is unavoidable. For the person has forgotten their original aim, and merely redoubles their efforts, which is the very definition of the fanatic.

    To wit:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4548675
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4603713
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4620807
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4641402
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4693171
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4705211
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4774450
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4812725
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4812725
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5272240

    Q.E.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Yes, I suppose that those that simply repeat themselves time and again may have some redundancy issues if they are reluctant to take the time to stand still long enough and subject their repetitive opinions to some actual scrutiny by others. Assertions come easy to all of us. But they contain no truth value unless some effort is taken to substantiate the mere claim via honest back-and-forth discussion.

    Unfortunately, not a few tend to make assertions, then fade away and let others do the heavy-lifting for them, while they sit on the sidelines weighing in with the occasioned "Amen!" "Good post!" etc. Cheerleaders. Who really do not play the game, but only whip the crowd into frenzy. They serve a purpose, if for nothing else, entertaining the crowd. Of course, cheerleaders are involved in the game, but only those actually playing at the game are committed.

    Some just prefer to be the egg in a ham and egg breakfast. One animal is involved, the other, alas, is committed and actually loses his life over the commitment.

    Thus, metaphors aside, if that "involved" behavior is one's norm, then repetitiveness is unavoidable. For the person has forgotten their original aim, and merely redoubles their efforts, which is the very definition of the fanatic.

    To wit:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4548675
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4603713
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4620807
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4641402
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4693171
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4705211
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4774450
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4812725
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4812725
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5272240

    Q.E.D.

    AMR
    I'm extremely elated by the fact that you have made it your 'mission in Life' to search TOL's 'memory banks' to find 'historical tidbits' of 'Old GM's' remarkable observations and learned opinions. It's good to know I have another 'FAN' to add to my growing list. Your 'passive-aggressive' Motive of Operandi is quite refreshing and admirable. My compliments to you. Please do not hurt yourself by all of the 'heavy-lifting' you have to do while trying to keep 'Old GM' afloat. Always remember too, bend your knees while keeping your back straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Yes, I suppose that those that simply repeat themselves time and again may have some redundancy issues if they are reluctant to take the time to stand still long enough and subject their repetitive opinions to some actual scrutiny by others. Assertions come easy to all of us. But they contain no truth value unless some effort is taken to substantiate the mere claim via honest back-and-forth discussion.

    Unfortunately, not a few tend to make assertions, then fade away and let others do the heavy-lifting for them, while they sit on the sidelines weighing in with the occasioned "Amen!" "Good post!" etc. Cheerleaders. Who really do not play the game, but only whip the crowd into frenzy. They serve a purpose, if for nothing else, entertaining the crowd. Of course, cheerleaders are involved in the game, but only those actually playing at the game are committed.

    Some just prefer to be the egg in a ham and egg breakfast. One animal is involved, the other, alas, is committed and actually loses his life over the commitment.

    Thus, metaphors aside, if that "involved" behavior is one's norm, then repetitiveness is unavoidable. For the person has forgotten their original aim, and merely redoubles their efforts, which is the very definition of the fanatic.

    To wit:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4548675
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4603713
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4620807
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4641402
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4693171
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4705211
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4774450
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4812725
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4812725
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5272240

    Q.E.D.

    AMR
    By the way, good post.

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    Since AMR is of the opinion that, 'Old GM' is only interested in 'One-liner attacks' and such, I would ask him (after all, he is 'Ask Mister Religion') to choose a New Testament verse of Scripture that appears to back up his Calvinist doctrine, and he can give his interpretation and I'll give mine. How about it, AMR? Are you game?

    I only ask that he NOT be long-winded' in his approach. Old GM has limited patience and doesn't abide elongated sentences that are comparable to reading 'War and Peace' in one sitting.

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