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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    I'm pretty sure that he was too. But that's just another myth of Churchianity (that Christ kept the law perfectly FOR us).
    Exactly. It wasn't Christ's obedience to the Law, but His obedience unto death whereby many are made righteous.

    Romans 5:19
    19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    Philippians 2:8
    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for our justification. Jesus is God's new Adam and our new humanity, 2nd Corinthians 5:17. Jesus is the end and the fulfillment of God's holy law, Matthew 5:18.

    When Jesus lived, we lived in him, Romans 5:19.
    When Jesus died, we died with him, Romans 6:3.
    When Jesus came out of Joseph's new tomb, we came out with him, Romans 6:5.
    When Jesus ascended into heaven, we ascended with him, Colossians 3:1.
    Our real life is hid with Christ in God, Colossians 3:3.

    When Jesus appears we shall be like him, Colossians 3:4.

    I am no longer going to cast my pearls before swine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    I was not arguing that. I was arguing against the idea that He vicariously kept the law for us.
    Yes, I understood. That's what I meant about that His righteousness being imputed to us could be taken too far. It all depends on just what one means when they say such things.

    "The [open view] is an attempt to provide a more Biblically faithful, rationally coherent, and practically satisfying account of God and the divine-human relationship..." - Dr. John Sanders

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    As people keep telling you. Things that are different are NOT the same.
    That's just a terrific line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    Your 'Testimony' is null and void. I have NO respect for you. You COULD change that. Civility isn't your biggest asset. Think about it.
    Anyone that does not agree with him is a wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Yes, I understood. That's what I meant about that His righteousness being imputed to us could be taken too far. It all depends on just what one means when they say such things.
    We are saved and justified by the imputed righteousness of Christ, Romans 3:26.

    If you stand in the judgment in your own righteousness, you will perish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    Your 'Testimony' is null and void. I have NO respect for you. You COULD change that. Civility isn't your biggest asset. Think about it.
    Coming from Mr. Irrelevant, who posts fluff, I consider that your weighing in, from the sidelines, bleachers, booing the real soldiers, troops, as a compliment. You're getting as senile, dementia infested, as Pate.

    And you floored me with that "Think about it" stunner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    We are saved and justified by the imputed righteousness of Christ, Romans 3:26.

    If you stand in the judgment in your own righteousness, you will perish.
    Jesus didn't teach that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Jesus didn't teach that.

    Paul did, All men are sinners, Romans 3:23 and need to be born again by the word of God, which is the Gospel, 1 Peter 1:23. In the judgment you will either be found "In Christ" or you will be found in your flesh and condemned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Paul did, All men are sinners, Romans 3:23 and need to be born again by the word of God, which is the Gospel, 1 Peter 1:23. In the judgment you will either be found "In Christ" or you will be found in your flesh and condemned.
    Paul NEVER used the term "born again".
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Coming from Mr. Irrelevant, who posts fluff, I consider that your weighing in, from the sidelines, bleachers, booing the real soldiers, troops, as a compliment. You're getting as senile, dementia infested, as Pate.

    And you floored me with that "Think about it" stunner.

    He's right, you are rude and crude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Paul NEVER used the term "born again".
    Peter did. Paul implied it in 2 Corinthians 5:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Peter did.
    So what? Peter was writing to the twelve tribes scattered abroad, just like James.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Paul implied it in 2 Corinthians 5:17.
    No, he did NOT. You are CONFLATING two things. Churchinaity causes a LOT of that.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
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    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    He's right, you are rude and crude.
    And you're a nasty wolf, who just perverts the gospel of Christ, and perverts the book, by making up "biblical" terms, corrupting the book, and misleading the sheep.


    Be gone, wolfie.
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