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    My NFC Power Rankings of 12/5/2018


    1. Los Angeles Rams (11-1)
    2. New Orleans (10-2)
    3. Dallas (7-5)
    4. Chicago (8-4)
    5. Carolina (6-6)
    6. Washington (6-6)
    7. Philadelphia (6-6)
    7. Seattle (7-5)
    7. Tampa Bay (5-7)
    10. Detroit (4-8)
    11. New York Giants (4-8)
    12. Minnesota (6-5-1)
    13. Atlanta (4-8)
    14. Green Bay (4-7-1)
    15. Arizona (3-9)
    16. San Francisco (2-10)
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Total League Power Rankings 12/5/2018

    1. Los Angeles Rams (11-1) (121) Projected 15-1
    2. New Orleans Saints (10-2) (150) Projected 14-2
    3. New England Patriots (9-3) (72) Projected 13-3
    4. Houston Texans (9-3) (67) Projected 13-3
    5. Kansas City Chiefs (10-2) (117) Projected 14-2
    6. Dallas Cowboys (7-5) (24) Projected 10-6
    7. Tennessee Titans (6-6) (-24) Projected 8-7-1
    8. Los Angeles Chargers (9-3) (91) Projected 12-4
    9. Chicago Bears (8-4) (103)
    10. Pittsburgh Steelers (7-4-1) (64)
    11. Baltimore Ravens (7-5) (83)
    12. Carolina Panthers (6-6) (-2)
    13. Denver Broncos (6-6) (14)
    14. Washington Redskins (6-6) (-24)
    15. Cincinnati Bengals (5-7) (-85)
    16. Indianapolis Colts (6-6) (45)
    17. Philadelphia Eagles (6-6) (-8)
    18. Seattle Seahawks (7-5) (60)
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (5-7) (-37)
    20. Miami Dolphins (6-6) (-56)
    21. Detroit Lions (4-8) (-62)
    22. New York Giants (4-8) (-48)
    23. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-8) (-40)
    24. Minnesota Vikings (6-5-1) (5)
    25. Atlanta Falcons (4-8) (-37)
    26. Green Bay packers (4-7-1) (-6)
    27. Buffalo Bills (4-8) (-115)
    28. Cleveland Browns (4-7-1) (-46)
    29. New York Jets (3-9) (-64)
    30. Arizona Cardinals (3-9) (-139)
    31. Oakland Raiders (2-10) (-147)
    32. San Francisco 49er's (2-10) (-81)
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    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Wow, only 13 teams have a positive in points scored....
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    For an 11-1 team the Rams' +121 point differential is kind of weak, no? To put that into perspective the 2007 16-0 Patriots had a +315 point differential which is the NFL record. That 2007 Patriots team was amazing, arguably the greatest team in NFL history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    My AFC Power rankings as of 12/5/2018

    1. New England
    2. Houston
    3. Kansas City
    4. Tennessee
    5. L.A. Chargers
    6. Pittsburgh
    7. Baltimore
    8. Denver
    9. Cincinnati
    9. Indianapolis
    11. Miami
    12. Jacksonville
    13. Buffalo
    13. Cleveland
    15. New York Jets
    16. Oakland
    AFC
    1. KC
    2. SD (I know, I know)
    3. Bal
    4. NE
    5. Pit
    6. Hou
    7. Ind
    8. Den
    9. Ten
    10. Cle
    12. Mia
    13. Cin
    14. Jet
    15. Buf
    16. Oak
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    My NFC Power Rankings of 12/5/2018


    1. Los Angeles Rams (11-1)
    2. New Orleans (10-2)
    3. Dallas (7-5)
    4. Chicago (8-4)
    5. Carolina (6-6)
    6. Washington (6-6)
    7. Philadelphia (6-6)
    7. Seattle (7-5)
    7. Tampa Bay (5-7)
    10. Detroit (4-8)
    11. New York Giants (4-8)
    12. Minnesota (6-5-1)
    13. Atlanta (4-8)
    14. Green Bay (4-7-1)
    15. Arizona (3-9)
    16. San Francisco (2-10)
    NFC
    1. NO
    2. Rams
    3. Chi
    4. Sea
    5.Dal
    6. Min
    7. Phi
    8. GB
    9. Car
    10. Was
    11. TB
    12. Atl
    13. Gia
    14. Det
    15. SF
    16. Arz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    NFC
    1. NO
    2. Rams
    3. Chi
    4. Sea
    5.Dal
    6. Min
    7. Phi
    8. GB
    9. Car
    10. Was
    11. TB
    12. Atl
    13. Gia
    14. Det
    15. SF
    16. Arz
    Rather generous to Green Bay I'd say being they just fired their coach
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    For an 11-1 team the Rams' +121 point differential is kind of weak, no?
    Sign of the rules altered, pinball times we're living in.

    To put that into perspective the 2007 16-0 Patriots had a +315 point differential which is the NFL record. That 2007 Patriots team was amazing, arguably the greatest team in NFL history.
    Not sure they'd make my top five, all-time, but a really solid team to be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Rather generous to Green Bay I'd say being they just fired their coach
    It's more about the state of the teams below them.

    Carolina just lost its pressure valve and Cam is hurt. Washington doesn't have a qb. TB is up and down so much they qualify as a ferris wheel. Atlanta has talent to spare, but can't pull it together (coaching change coming). The Giants' best qb is a wr. Detroit gave up weeks ago, SF (see: Washington, Giants and TB, depending). Arizona would only be competitive in a conference that consisted of it and Oakland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Everyone needs one of those. New England didn't get it when they were on fire and they collapsed in the SB against a Giants team they should have beaten.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    For an 11-1 team the Rams' +121 point differential is kind of weak, no? To put that into perspective the 2007 16-0 Patriots had a +315 point differential which is the NFL record. That 2007 Patriots team was amazing, arguably the greatest team in NFL history.
    Yesterday's Pats loss was shocking. But in perspective, we Bostonians have endured far worse, the 2007 NFL season's championship game, with that Giants miracle catch, is just one example.
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    The old great Bears team got a surprise from Miami in route to their eventual win and it helped.

    That Saints team can beat anyone on a given Sunday, but the Rams are going to be the obstacle.
    I don't think so.
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    I'm just not ready to believe in their qb yet. He wasn't this before the coaching change, so either he's been coached into his potential or he's a system product, which means if someone can kink that he won't transcend the game plan. Time will tell.
    The coach is too young too.
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    NE smells vulnerable and the Steelers would be the perfect team to expose that powerfully, BUT the Pats have been in their heads for a while and there's just something Jeckyll and Hyde about this team that won't let me trust them. If not now, never.
    Looks like Ben's going to be questionable for the game due to rib injury? That's not going to help them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    They're less frightening without their star rb, but still dangerous. Maybe the ultimate puncher's chance team.
    Their chances got better yesterday, but they still need to win their first playoff game, and that's the looming challenge for them going forward.
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    The Chargers are the most complete team on the AFC side of it. And don't sleep on Baltimore. They're a wild card. I think Houston has made their case, but I think SD is a better version of that.
    The Chargers are excellent. They've got a monkey on their back wrt the playoffs also though. Time will tell, and that time is rapidly approaching.
    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    I'm close to believing that. They have talent. When the defense plays up to it and they run the ball they can play against most of the teams in their conference. I don't believe they will beat the Rams or the Saints on the road though.
    They're a disciplined, mentally tough team, and they look even stronger this year (at this point) than they ever did two seasons ago. They've got the QB imo, and that's saying a lot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
    I don't bet sports, but if the odds looked favorable I might think about making a small bet on them to be the NFC's representative.
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    Home field is going to mean more than usual for both conferences this year.
    Yeah obviously at least Baltimore and NE win their games yesterday, if they played them at home. Two recent cases in point.
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    Doc's Power Rating week ending 12/11/18

    1. New Orleans (11-2) +164
    2. L.A. Rams (11-2) +112
    3. New England (9-4) +71
    4. Kansas City (11-2) +120
    5. Houston (9-4) +64
    6. Chicago (9-4) +112
    7. Dallas (8-5) +30
    8. L.A. Chargers (10-3) +96
    9. Tennessee (7-6) -3
    10. Indianapolis (7-6) +49
    11. Miami (7-6) (-55)
    12. Pittsburgh (7-5-1) +61
    13. Baltimore (7-6) +80
    14. Seattle (8-5) +74
    15. Carolina (6-7) -8
    16. Denver (6-7) +8
    17. N.Y. Giants (5-8) -24
    18. Washington (6-7) -48
    19. Philadelphia (6-7) -14
    20. Detroit (5-8) -48
    21. Tampa Bay (5-8) -51
    22. Cincinnati (5-8) -90
    23. Cleveland (5-7-1) -40
    24. Green Bay (5-7-1) +8
    25. Minnesota (6-6-1) -9
    26. Jacksonville (4-9) -61
    27. Atlanta (4-9) -51
    28. N.Y. Jets (4-9) -60
    29. Buffalo (4-9) -119
    30. Oakland (3-10) -144
    31. San Francisco (3-10) -75
    32. Arizona (3-10) -149
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    San Diego @ Kansas City KC -3.5

    The Los Angeles Chargers have chased the Kansas City Chiefs all year since losing the season-opening game between the rivals. On Thursday night, they get the chance to catch the AFC West leaders when the teams meet at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo.

    The Chiefs (11-2) lead the Chargers (10-3) by one game in the division. Both teams are also vying for the best record in the AFC with three games to go. The Chargers have a commanding lead in the AFC wild-card race.

    Doc's Take: I'm taking the Chargers.
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    San Diego @ Kansas City KC -3.5

    The Los Angeles Chargers have chased the Kansas City Chiefs all year since losing the season-opening game between the rivals. On Thursday night, they get the chance to catch the AFC West leaders when the teams meet at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo.

    The Chiefs (11-2) lead the Chargers (10-3) by one game in the division. Both teams are also vying for the best record in the AFC with three games to go. The Chargers have a commanding lead in the AFC wild-card race.

    Doc's Take: I'm taking the Chargers.
    I took KC. Here was my look:

    Game tonight.

    Chargers @ KC (3.5)

    Finally, we get to see if the Bolts are as good as they look on paper. If they're going to advance to the SB they'll probably have to manage a win on the road against KC or a lesser AFC powerhouse. SD (I know) has the best overall balance of any team in the league, but how will it translate in a tough road game?

    They lost to KC at home by 10 early in the season. Then they lost to the Rams by 13 in a road game, eeked out a 1 pt win at Ten in week 7 before the bye week and a following, impressive 8 point win against the Seahawks in Seattle. They beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh late on a fg then let a headless Bengals play them relatively close last week in their own park.

    I want to believe in the Bolts, but I'm still not sure that I do.

    Meanwhile, Mahomes looks more and more like a young version of GB's signal caller with a better supporting cast and coaching. Their win against a tough Baltimore team gave me a better sense of them as a team. The defense is a liability, but seems to find a way to play just well enough to give the puncher a chance.

    I'm taking KC in a shootout. I haven't had time to crunch numbers, but the line looks coverable. I'm thinking 34-30-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Doc's Power Rating week ending 12/11/18

    1. New Orleans (11-2) +164
    2. L.A. Rams (11-2) +112
    3. New England (9-4) +71
    4. Kansas City (11-2) +120
    5. Houston (9-4) +64
    6. Chicago (9-4) +112
    7. Dallas (8-5) +30
    8. L.A. Chargers (10-3) +96
    9. Tennessee (7-6) -3
    10. Indianapolis (7-6) +49
    I have it, going into tonight's game:

    1. NO
    2. KC
    3. Rams
    4. Chi
    5. Chargers
    6. Bal
    7. NE
    8. Sea
    9. Hou
    10 Pit

    11. Miami (7-6) (-55)
    12. Pittsburgh (7-5-1) +61
    13. Baltimore (7-6) +80
    14. Seattle (8-5) +74
    15. Carolina (6-7) -8
    16. Denver (6-7) +8
    17. N.Y. Giants (5-8) -24
    18. Washington (6-7) -48
    19. Philadelphia (6-7) -14
    20. Detroit (5-8) -48
    11. Ind
    12. Dal
    13. GB
    14. Den
    15. Ten
    16. Car
    17. Min
    18. Phi
    19.Cle
    20. Gia

    21. Tampa Bay (5-8) -51
    22. Cincinnati (5-8) -90
    23. Cleveland (5-7-1) -40
    24. Green Bay (5-7-1) +8
    25. Minnesota (6-6-1) -9
    26. Jacksonville (4-9) -61
    27. Atlanta (4-9) -51
    28. N.Y. Jets (4-9) -60
    29. Buffalo (4-9) -119
    30. Oakland (3-10) -144
    31. San Francisco (3-10) -75
    32. Arizona (3-10) -149
    21. Atl
    22. Mia
    23. Cin
    24. TB
    25. Det
    24. Was
    26. Cin
    27. Jets
    28. Jac
    29. SF
    30. Buf
    31. Oak
    32. Arz
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