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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    Exactly Brother ! The freewillers deny Salvation by God's Grace alone Eph. 2:8-9 for those Christ died for as their Surety Saviour Heb. 7:22 before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9, and insist that a man's cooperation in his own salvation is essential to becoming saved from sin, i.e. his own acts self-righteousness of faith / believing, obeying, repenting, etc., which fosters pride in the flesh Rom. 8:8 and denies the saving efficacy of Christ's Blood to save all His Seed for whom it was shed Is. 53:10 !
    Amen Sister Nanja
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I have pride in a loving savior who rejects self-righteousness and accepts humility.

    You despise Him for His choices to do that.
    Look at me, Im humble your not !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Look at me, Im humble your not !
    Until you learn how to stop thinking like a Pharisee, you will never be able to see the truth.


    Matthew 23:13
    13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Until you learn how to stop thinking like a Pharisee, you will never be able to see the truth.


    Matthew 23:13
    13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
    You are the boaster. Look at me, Im humble
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    Exactly Brother ! The freewillers deny Salvation by God's Grace alone Eph. 2:8-9
    I do not deny that salvation is by God's Grace alone.
    God alone will save those who have found favor in His sight (grace).
    God chooses who He will save as a gift He is giving to Himself, and God is very discriminating about the quality of the gifts given to Him.

    Nobody can save themselves.
    Nobody can force God to save them.

    Nobody can earn salvation through works.
    However, anyone can earn damnation through works.

    Psalm 92:7
    7 When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:


    God granted free will to man so man can choose whether to walk down the broad way that leads to destruction or walk along the narrow way that leads to life.

    Matthew 7:13-14
    13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.



    God is too discriminating to grant salvation to anyone who is walking down the broad way that leads to destruction.
    God is also too discriminating to choose to grant salvation to everyone who is walking along the narrow way that leads to life.

    Matthew 22:14
    14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You are the boaster. Look at me, Im humble
    You are thinking like a Pharisee and you have your reward: the reward of the hypocrite.

    Matthew 6:5
    5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


    I am not looking for praise from men, I am looking for mercy from God.

    Jude 1:21
    21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

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    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    You are thinking like a Pharisee and you have your reward: the reward of the hypocrite.

    Matthew 6:5
    5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


    I am not looking for praise from men, I am looking for mercy from God.

    Jude 1:21
    21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
    Look at me, Im humble, your not
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I do not deny that salvation is by God's Grace alone.
    God alone will save those who have found favor in His sight (grace).
    God chooses who He will save as a gift He is giving to Himself, and God is very discriminating about the quality of the gifts given to Him.

    Nobody can save themselves.
    Nobody can force God to save them.

    Nobody can earn salvation through works.
    However, anyone can earn damnation through works.

    Psalm 92:7
    7 When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:


    God granted free will to man so man can choose whether to walk down the broad way that leads to destruction or walk along the narrow way that leads to life.

    Matthew 7:13-14
    13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.



    God is too discriminating to grant salvation to anyone who is walking down the broad way that leads to destruction.
    God is also too discriminating to choose to grant salvation to everyone who is walking along the narrow way that leads to life.

    Matthew 22:14
    14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
    More boasting about your walk
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    your not
    Looks like a spelling error or a grammar error.
    Maybe that should be "your knot"?
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I do not deny that salvation is by God's Grace alone.

    Grace was given to only some of mankind: The Election of Grace Eph. 1:4-5, Chosen of the Father In Union with Christ Jesus before the world began.


    Paul refers to this as the Gospel according to the power of God 2 Tim. 1:8.


    2 Tim. 1:9
    Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,


    Eph. 1:7
    In whom we [Elect] have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;


    The Death of Christ was specifically for them, a remnant of mankind chosen to have forgiveness of sins in Him their Surety Savior Heb. 7:22 from Everlasting. So for them [the Elect] Grace shall reign in their behalf until it consummates them into Glory.

    2 Tim. 2:10
    Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.


    Ps. 84:11
    For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.


    And these Chosen Ones In Union with Christ to have forgiveness of sins according to the riches of His Grace are God's Vessels of Mercy, which He had afore prepared for Glory !

    Rom. 9:23
    And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory


    Titus 3:5
    Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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