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    Quote Originally Posted by FineLinen View Post
    There is absolutely zero "limited" in the unlimited One! Our view of Him in our wee experience reveals where we dwell. He dwells in unlimited! Until our experience explodes in His Presence "limited" will dominate us.

    "Of Him, by Him, for Him."
    Then you'd be a Universalist, by such a notion. God is not limited. The limitation here is this: Matthew 7:13-14 If you don't believe that, you don't believe God, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by FineLinen View Post
    That is precisely the issue! His Purpose is centered entirely in Himself, with no consultation with another. Faith must flow from Him (we live by the faith of the Son of God) & repentance must "be granted/given". He calls, we follow! I like this World of His very much! One small glimpse of Him shatters our wee endeavor not only into pieces, it grinds the pieces into powder!
    You argue with your heart and that is a great thing, but we need His truth to infiltrate us as well as we learn and grow in Him. Keep your love strong and build on your knowledge (same goes for me). Hosea 4:6 Romans 12:2
    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    1Co 13:11 ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

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    limitation here is this: Matthew 7:13-14 If you don't believe that, you don't believe God, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Then you'd be a Universalist, by such a notion. God is not limited. The
    Wrong! I do appreciate that little expression on the bottom of your name, Lon!"Abundantly above.." That is precisely the point: all you can ask or think falls abundantly below the Unlimited One, far, far below! I grasp that our God has been declaring through the mouths of the prophets and sages the Restitution of all things from the earliest ages! That Day is clearly before us in the Scriptures; one may not see it, but it is there staring us in the face!

    The Master does indeed speak of a narrow gate & a broad path! We all are on that path until by His apprehension He says enough. Even then the broad path tends to squeeze us into lower realms of thought & being. One can be of the 12 and still declare "how can these things be?" We later day saints are equally discombobulated until by the Holy Ghost awakening takes place. The time on the Road cannot solve our problem, we must know the anointing!

    Come in F.W.R

    https://www.biblestudytools.com/comm...thew-7-13.html

    "You argue with your heart and that is a great thing, but we need His truth to infiltrate us as well as we learn and grow in Him. Keep your love strong and build on your knowledge (same goes for me). Hosea 4:6 Romans 12:2"

    My friend:

    You will get nothing from F.L. in disagreement. Growing in Him is in the present continuous tense of "be being". May He lead all of us into His glorious expansion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FineLinen View Post
    limitation here is this: Matthew 7:13-14 If you don't believe that, you don't believe God, right?

    Wrong! I do appreciate that little expression on the bottom of your name, Lon!"Abundantly above.." That is precisely the point: all you can ask or think falls abundantly below the Unlimited One, far, far below! I grasp that our God has been declaring through the mouths of the prophets and sages the Restitution of all things from the earliest ages! That Day is clearly before us in the Scriptures; one may not see it, but it is there staring us in the face!

    The Master does indeed speak of a narrow gate & a broad path! We all are on that path until by His apprehension He says enough. Even then the broad path tends to squeeze us into lower realms of thought & being. One can be of the 12 and still declare "how can these things be?" We later day saints are equally discombobulated until by the Holy Ghost awakening takes place. The time on the Road cannot solve our problem, we must know the anointing!

    Come in F.W.R

    https://www.biblestudytools.com/comm...thew-7-13.html

    "You argue with your heart and that is a great thing, but we need His truth to infiltrate us as well as we learn and grow in Him. Keep your love strong and build on your knowledge (same goes for me). Hosea 4:6 Romans 12:2"

    My friend:

    You will get nothing from F.L. in disagreement. Growing in Him is in the present continuous tense of "be being". May He lead all of us into His glorious expansion!
    Being a Latter Day Saint, you have some commonality with me, but have a LOT to discuss between Joseph Smith's scriptural understanding, and the Protestant rest of Christendom. A huge huge point is Ephesians 2:8-10 for me.

    I'd think you have been through some of these scriptures in the past, but they are very important for any believer. Without trying to attack, I believe Joseph Smith fell into the same works-based misapprehensions of scripture that others before and after him have fallen too. Romans 11:6 and again Ephesians 2:8-10 -Lon
    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    1Co 13:11 ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

    Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    Being a Latter Day Saint, you have some commonality with me, but have a LOT to discuss between Joseph Smith's scriptural understanding, and the Protestant rest of Christendom. A huge huge point is Ephesians 2:8-10 for me.

    I'd think you have been through some of these scriptures in the past, but they are very important for any believer. Without trying to attack, I believe Joseph Smith fell into the same works-based misapprehensions of scripture that others before and after him have fallen too. Romans 11:6 and again Ephesians 2:8-10 -Lon
    Dear Lon: I am NOT member of the "Latter Day Saints" I do have a friend on my roster on another thread who is an exceptional LDS believer. F.L is sorry for any confusion caused by my post. My goodness I am capable of causing enough confusion by trying, I do not desire to expand the situation! LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FineLinen View Post
    We later day saints are equally discombobulated until by the Holy Ghost awakening takes place.
    Quote Originally Posted by FineLinen View Post
    Dear Lon: I am NOT member of the "Latter Day Saints" I do have a friend on my roster on another thread who is an exceptional LDS believer. F.L is sorry for any confusion caused by my post. My goodness I am capable of causing enough confusion by trying, I do not desire to expand the situation! LOL.
    I realize, now, you didn't capitalize, but yes, I assumed "LDS" rather than "lds." Thank you for the correction. -Lon
    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    1Co 13:11 ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

    Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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