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    On Opinions, Facts and the Dishonest Use of Language

    The following was posted recently:
    Facts are piling up, and it’s getting harder to deny what’s staring us in the face.

    At the NATO summit in Brussels, Trump attacked a close European ally—Germany—and generally questioned the value of the alliance. Next, he visited the United Kingdom and trashed Prime Minister Theresa May. Then, in Helsinki, he met with Vladimir Putin privately for two hours, with no U.S. officials present other than a translator. After this suspicious meeting, he sang the Russian strongman’s praises at a news conference at which he said he viewed Putin’s denials on a par with the unanimous and unchallenged conclusions of America’s intelligence agencies.
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    With every other world leader, the physically imposing Trump attempts to dominate—witness his alpha-male handshakes with French President Emanuel Macron or his flamboyant man-spreading next to German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Yet with the diminutive Putin—who is maybe 5 feet, 6 inches tall—he’s oddly submissive. During the public portion of their encounter, Trump was slumping in his chair, as if defeated. Why? Why did he insist on a one-on-one meeting with Putin in the first place?
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    But nobody would say his odd solicitousness toward the Kremlin leader is a political winner, and it certainly causes an unnecessary amount of friction with Republicans in Congress. He’s kept it up at great political cost to himself, and that suggests either that he is possessed by an anomalous level of conviction on this one issue, despite his extraordinary malleability on everything else—or that he’s beholden to Putin in some way.
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    And pay attention, too, to what the White House says about Russia’s absurd demand that the U.S. hand over former ambassador to Moscow Mike McFaul—Wednesday’s spectacle of Sarah Huckabee Sanders refusing to immediately rule out the idea flies in the face of decades of American diplomacy. Trump may have grudgingly admitted that Russia did the deed, but nobody should be surprised if he starts shedding doubt on it all over again. Maybe, just maybe, he can’t admit that Moscow tried to put him in the Oval Office because he’s under strict instructions not to.

    take note that the author's lead word was "facts" and that he then proceeded to fill a page with opinion

    for example:

    "Trump attacked...Germany"

    well, no

    we know what it looks like to attack germany - it looks like this, in fact:


    and then there's:

    "Next, he ...trashed Prime Minister Theresa May."

    well, no

    what he said was:
    Washington (CNN)US President Donald Trump touched down in the United Kingdom Thursday and spoke with a major British tabloid where he differed with British Prime Minister Theresa May on her approach to Brexit.
    "I told her how to do it. That will be up to her to say. But I told her how to do it. She wanted to go a different route," Trump said, according to audio of an interview posted by The Sun.
    Trump said May "didn't listen" to his views on how she should negotiate the UK's exit from the European Union, but said that was "fine."
    "She should negotiate the best way she knows how, but it's too bad what's going on," Trump said.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/12/polit...iew/index.html
    you'd have to be a complete retard to think that constitutes "trashing" her

    I could go on like this through the entire mess of a piece and demonstrate that the retarded author only presents two facts - that the rest is opinion, and opinion based in retarded fantasy at that

    Since the author has now been identified as a total retard, I don't see any reason to continue.

    Yay!
    Last edited by ok doser; July 25th, 2018 at 01:25 PM.

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    Opinions are the meat of a discussion board. But if they're not rooted in fact, then they're worse than useless. The preceding essay was offered as factual evidence by the OP that trump is a (racist/misogynist/traitor/puppet-of-putin/etc/etc).

    When pressed to admit that the "facts" he offered were, in fact, opinion, he flamed out and stamped off in a huff (which was quite amusing to watch )



    By all means - discuss opinions here. But don't confuse opinion with fact. Or if you do, don't whine about getting mocked.
    Last edited by ok doser; July 25th, 2018 at 01:27 PM.

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