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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Salvation has ALREADY been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. Everyone has ALREADY been reconciled unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

    Salvation is now offered to EVERYONE as a free gift from God, Ephesians 2:9.

    You and the Calvinist are in denial of the Gospel. Salvation always has been and always will be by grace through faith. No works or obedience required.
    False comments no where found in scripture !
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    False comments no where found in scripture !
    Like a dead clock, you hit that one right.
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    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    What ISIS is and does, has no bearing on the Gospel.

    The scripture remains, "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.

    Jesus is God's reconciler. In our name and on our behalf Jesus has fulfilled God's holy law, Matthew 5:18 and has abolished it, Ephesians 2:15. In our name and on our behalf, Jesus has atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. So that now... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
    According to you ISIS is reconciled to God and they just don't know yet?

    You are worse off than I ever imagined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Paul is speaking of himself and the other Christians that were reconciled.

    I can hardly believe you deny what it is to be reconciled to God.

    Being reconciled to God is to be given His Spirit and us put in Him.


    2 Corinthians 5:20 We are therefore Christís ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christís behalf: Be reconciled to God.
    Pate,

    Why are they imploring people to be reconciled to God if they already are?

    Man give up your false beliefs.
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    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Pate,

    Why are they imploring people to be reconciled to God if they already are?

    Man give up your false beliefs.
    Specifically who is Paul imploring in the context ?
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
    The world is not universal. The text around the sentence you quote proves this. But, you and the other universalists refuse to consider the whole scope of God's word to inform your thoughts.
    The years pass, yet Robert remains indifferent to responses given:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4634230

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4920136

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Specifically who is Paul imploring in the context ?
    Those who are not yet reconciled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Those who are not yet reconciled.
    Wtong. Verses 18 and 19 tells us who

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Wtong. Verses 18 and 19 tells us who

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    You are wrong.

    Submit to God.

    God doesn't save people to make them submit.

    You better dig far into your heart to submit because God doesn't save people who don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    The years pass, yet Robert remains indifferent to responses given:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4634230

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4920136

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    People better go read that one on one we had on the trinity.

    Remember when you thought you could use it against me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You are wrong.

    Submit to God.

    God doesn't save people to make them submit.

    You better dig far into your heart to submit because God doesn't save people who don't.
    2 Cor 5:18,19,20

    18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

    19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

    20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

    He was imploring them already reconciled, vs 18-19 prove it
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    2 Cor 5:18,19,20

    18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

    19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

    20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

    He was imploring them already reconciled, vs 18-19 prove it
    That doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    That doesn't make sense.
    That goes to show you that the Gospel is foolishness to some people. Nevertheless Paul was speaking to the already reconciled.

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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    God has already done all that he can do for the salvation of fallen man.

    Jesus in our name and on our behalf has fulfilled the law, Matthew 5:18 and abolished it, Ephesians 2:15 and in our name and on our behalf has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. All that is required of us is to accept what has already been provided for us as a free gift from God, Ephesians 2:8.

    No one needs to be predestinated. No one needs to obey the law. No one needs to join the Catholic church. In Jesus Christ we have been justified, sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30. We are perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.

    Jesus has done it all and he did it perfectly. Renounce your worthless religion, your works, your obedience to the law, Calvinism and trust in Christ alone. When you do, God will give you his Holy Spirit and you will be born again, 1 Peter 1:23.

    Jesus saves and he saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.

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    Did you mean versus or are you asking for verses?
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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