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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The law has been abolished ONLY for Christians. GT is not a Christian, If she were she would not need the law. The law is her Jesus.
    You see Tam?

    What did I say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus fulfilled those purification/ceremonial works of the law they were about him.

    As for you break on part you break all---I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT YOU IN GREAT DETAIL.

    Now answer the question:

    If you break the law and sleep with your neighbor's wife, do you love your neighbor?

    If you break the law and steal from your neighbor, is that the way you love?

    Answer the questions.

    Stop pretending you discuss and debate.

    Show me that you are reading what I right and not merely a blind guide with no hope.

    If you have been born again by the word of God, 1 Peter 1:23, you will not do those things. If you try to live by rules, laws and religion you will do those things, simply because the law does not make one righteous, it makes one sin, Romans 7:8-12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    If you have been born again by the word of God, 1 Peter 1:23, you will not do those things. If you try to live by rules, laws and religion you will do those things, simply because the law does not make one righteous, it makes one sin, Romans 7:8-12.
    Just listen to yourself.

    You said if you have been born again (saved) a person will not do those sins.

    THAT IS WHAT OBEYING IS or you are not even saved to begin with.

    You try to hard to demean Jesus' teachings to just some rules, just some law.

    What you do is a major sin because Jesus' words are Spirit, they are life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Just listen to yourself.

    You said if you have been born again (saved) a person will not do those sins.

    THAT IS WHAT OBEYING IS or you are not even saved to begin with.

    You try to hard to demean Jesus' teachings to just some rules, just some law.

    What you do is a major sin because Jesus' words are Spirit, they are life.

    You are not being honest with yourself. You should know that you cannot keep the law or the teachings of Jesus. You refuse to acknowledge the fact that you are a sinner. You are just like the rich young ruler. He could not come to the truth. You cannot come to the truth either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    No such thing.
    The Galatians were observing special days and were talked into getting circumcised.
    Paul's letter to the Galatians is clear. He very directly states we are saved by grace through faith. He states that no one is justified by the law.
    Paul condemns your belief. Your position is very similar to people I have met from the Hebrew Roots cult, an offshoot of Herbert W Armstrong's heretical Church of God cult.
    Any adopted child of God, whom God has given the gift of faith, will recognize your error. The rest will be condemned by your works based teaching and will fall short of God's Kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You are not being honest with yourself. You should know that you cannot keep the law or the teachings of Jesus. You refuse to acknowledge the fact that you are a sinner. You are just like the rich young ruler. He could not come to the truth. You cannot come to the truth either.
    Read what Jesus says and believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Read what Jesus says and believe.
    Jesus through the teaching of the law tells you that you are a sinner, but you don't believe him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Jesus through the teaching of the law tells you that you are a sinner, but you don't believe him.
    Jesus taught the new law You don't value God's Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus taught the new law You don't value God's Word.
    There is no new law. Jesus elevated the law of Moses and spiritualized it.

    So that now you sin not only by what you do, but also by what you think, Matthew 5:27-30.

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    The law is good and holy.

    But Jesus Christ fulfilled the law.

    As a result we are no longer under the law.

    As Paul clearly stated by revelation in Galatians 2:21

    I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

    Righteousness does not come by the law, it comes by the work of Jesus Christ, then those who do Romans 10:9-10 receive that salvation, which is eternal life and righteousness.
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    The law is good and holy.

    But Jesus Christ fulfilled the law.

    As a result we are no longer under the law.

    As Paul clearly stated by revelation in Galatians 2:21

    I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

    Righteousness does not come by the law, it comes by the work of Jesus Christ, then those who do Romans 10:9-10 receive that salvation, which is eternal life and righteousness.

    Now if you can get GT to believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Now if you can get GT to believe it.
    I have a powerful testimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    There is no new law. Jesus elevated the law of Moses and spiritualized it.

    So that now you sin not only by what you do, but also by what you think, Matthew 5:27-30.
    You still do.
    Jesus gave the new law and you are going against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MennoSota View Post
    Paul's letter to the Galatians is clear. He very directly states we are saved by grace through faith. He states that no one is justified by the law.
    Paul condemns your belief. Your position is very similar to people I have met from the Hebrew Roots cult, an offshoot of Herbert W Armstrong's heretical Church of God cult.
    Any adopted child of God, whom God has given the gift of faith, will recognize your error. The rest will be condemned by your works based teaching and will fall short of God's Kingdom.
    No one teaches exactly what I teach.
    It is a shame that the Truth is rejected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    No one teaches exactly what I teach.
    It is a shame that the Truth is rejected.
    Don't worry about ole menno; he is a calvinist very much set in his ways. Stiff necked.

    peace friend.

    Good to see everyone back here.....and on close to the same page.

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