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    Remember always that that the Holy KJV N.T. says the following:

    1. the ten commandments are 'onto death'
    2. the ten commandments are the ministration of death.
    3. the ten commandments is 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil.
    4. the ten commandments is a curse.
    5. because of the above Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit
    6. the ten commandments killeth. The Spirit of Jesus giveth life.

    Jesus declared and left, two choices:

    Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
    22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.


    Have you guys paused to recognize that the above are two different paths and two different choices? And have you paused to recognized what are these two agendas?

    Seem that a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics simply ignored the above.

    The ten commandments makes and keeps one 'the dead'. Therefore the ten commandments are directly linked to 'let the dead bury their dead'. This is about going to hell (Purgatory).

    On the other hand, the spirit of Jesus giveth one eternal life and entry to God's kingdom of heaven above. This is directly linked to 'follow Jesus'. Jesus went to God's kingdom of heaven.

    'The dead' are all people who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. The gospel of the ten commandments were committed onto to Peter who Jesus identified to be Satan. The gospel that is with out the ten commandments was committed onto Paul.

    It is very common knowledge that Satan/Peter and his popes and their church enforce the ten commandments (which makes one and keeps one the dead) unilaterally on every one who recognize and follow them. And they are the ones who bury themselves and their followers, inside the earth in hell (purgatory), when they die.

    A billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics recognize Satan/Peter as their guide. And so a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics also esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. Clearly they are the dead who bury their dead. They are not the ones who follow Jesus.

    On the other hand, only a chosen few people (who are outside the ranks of a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics), follow Jesus.

    The question is how does one follow Jesus?

    We are told in the Holy KJV N.T. that Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
    17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty (to transgress the ten commandments).


    We are told also that the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus makes one free from the ten commandments:

    Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


    To be freed from the law of sin and death is to have God given freedom to transgress the ten commandments, when one is under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus says that one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus. This is the new covenant. This and only this is Christianity.

    We are told that the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment and by extension, the ten commandments, were onto death (i.e. they make and keep one 'the dead'):

    Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
    7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
    10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


    We were also told that when one is in the body of Christ (i.e. when one becomes a Christian) one is 'dead' to the ten commandments. Were are also told that one is under the ten commandments only when one is in the flesh. We are told also that when one is under the ten commandments one bring forth only fruits onto death. Fruits onto death include children of the flesh like Ishmael.

    We were informed and instructed that we were delivered from the ten commandments (we were delivered from bondage under the ten commandments so that we can serve in the newness of our own spirits. And when we do this we stop bringing forth fruits on to death/children of the flesh and start bringing forth only fruits onto God which includes children of God, like Issac.

    The above confirms that people who, in the least manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are not only made and kept 'the dead'. They also bring forth only children of the flesh and all other fruits onto death and not children of God and other fruits onto God.

    Fact is fruits onto God/children of God are brought forth when one becomes dead to, and delivers one self from the ten commandments and transgress the ten commandments so as to unconditionally serve in the newness of one's spirits.

    All the above enlightening information is contained in the following:

    Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
    4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
    5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
    6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
    7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


    'The law' in the above is confirmed in verse: 7 (above) to be the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment and by extension all the ten commandments.

    Fruits onto God which includes children of God, like Issac, are the 'fruits thereof' mentions in:

    Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.'
    43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


    'Fruits thereof' are fruits of the kingdom of God. These are fruits onto God/children of God. Also called fruits of Christianity.

    The above confirms that only those who bring forth fruits onto God/children of God will inherit the kingdom of God.

    Those who in the lest way esteem, use invoke and/or promote the ten commandments bring forth only fruits onto death/children of the flesh, like Ishmael. Children of the flesh are the dead i.e. dead to their spirit bodies and aware of only their flesh bodies. They are aware of only their flesh bodies this makes then children of the flesh.They are held under the ten commandments, until their become awakened to/aware of, their own hearts/spirits.

    Therefore they cannot and do not bring forth fruits onto God/children of God, like Issac. They bring forth only fruits onto death/children of the flesh, like Ishmael. Therefore they cannot and do not inherit the kingdom of God.

    Clearly a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics did not care to hear and/or totally ignored, the above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T.. They simply went about their own righteousness. They ignored Jesus and instead followed Peter who Jesus clearly identified to be Satan who enforced the ten commandments which is 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil', on them.

    They were simply deceived by false prophets and unawares, false spying brethren. And the primary false prophet and unawares false spying brethren were and continue to be, Satan/Peter, his popes and their church:

    Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
    11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
    4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty (i.e. to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus) which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (i.e. under the ten commandments):


    The sad fact is that if one is under the ten commandments one is not under grace of God and Christ has benefited one nothing. One cannot be and is not a Christian:

    Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
    1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ (i.e. the liberty to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus) hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage (i.e. under the ten commandments).
    2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
    3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
    4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


    The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is the instruction that one must transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus.

    A billions strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics cannot be and are not the chosen few who found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life and inheritance of God's kingdom of heaven. These are not the ones who 'follow Jesus'. They are 'the dead who bury their dead'. Fact is, they brag about Christianity and claim that it is the only path. The sad reality is that they are not at all, Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam View Post
    Those who follow Jesus, transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits/hearts
    Those who transgress the ten commandments to serve their own spirits/hearts are not following Jesus.
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    Choose between the Holy KJV N.T. and Genuineoriginal. Choose wisely . . .

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    Those who transgress the ten commandments to serve their own spirits/hearts are not following Jesus.
    The instruction in the Holy KJV N.T. to those who can serve in the newness of their own spirits is different from the instructions to those who cannot serve in the newness of their own spirits.

    Those who can serve in the newness of their own spirits are people who are newly awakened to/aware of their own spirits/hearts. They are people whose hearts/spirits have recently ceased being 'waxed gross' (i.e. covered over). They are people who have newly come into (acquired) 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. They newly had their second birth. That is, they have newly been born of Spirit. They were newly 'born again'.

    The above people who have newly come into awareness of their own spirits/hearts get a different instruction (and a different approach to God's righteousness), from those who are still dead to their own spirits/hearts. These people get righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments:

    Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    21 But now the righteousness of God without the law (i.e. without the ten commandments) is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
    23 For (under the ten commandments) all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
    24 Being justified freely (to transgress the ten commandments) by his grace (by the Spirit of Jesus) through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
    28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law (i.e. without the need to recognize or uphold the ten commandments


    People who have newly come into awareness of their own spirits/hearts are told to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve their own spirits. They are given the following instructions:

    1. They are 'become dead to' the ten commandments when they become Christians (i.e. in the body of Christ).
    2. They are 'delivered' from the ten commandments.
    3. They are told that they were held under the ten commandments only when they were in the flesh (this was before they became newly awakened to their own spirits/hearts)
    4. They were told that when they esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, they brought forth only fruits onto death (Fruits onto death include children of the flesh, like Ishmael).
    5. They were instructed that since they were now spiritually aware, they should abandon and stop esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments and instead transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of their spirits, for this is how they will stop bringing forth fruits onto death (i.e. children of the flesh, like Ishmael) and start bring forth only fruits onto God (Fruits onto God are children of God, like Issac).
    6. In verse 7 under, it is confirmed that the law which one is 'become dead to' and 'delivered from' is the thou shalt not covet' commandments and therefore, by extension, all the ten commandments.

    The direct source of all the above is:

    Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
    4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
    5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
    6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
    7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


    The above confirms that newly spiritually awakened people are 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the ten commandments so that they can transgress the 'the thou shalt not covet' commandment (and all the ten commandments) so that they can unconditionally covert in order to serve their own spirits.

    The above is the clear, literal and untouched revelation in the Holy KJV N.T.

    Genuineoriginal's idea is not from the Holy KJV N.T.. Genuineoriginal is pedaling his own nonsense which has been fed to 'billions' by false prophets for the past 2000 odd years.

    These billions (who comprise traditional Christians and Catholics) cannot be the chosen few who have found the straight gate and narrow way (i.e. the truth) that leadeth to Christianity, eternal life and earn them the ability to 'follow Jesus' to God's kingdom of heaven. They are the deceived and not chosen masses/many.

    These billions (who comprise traditional Christians and Catholics) are clearly the great masses who are deceived by false prophets and unawares false spying brethren. This is prophesy;

    Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
    11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
    4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

    Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


    My (chosen) few readers are urged to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote only the literal words in the Holy KJV N.T.. This is the path to the straight gate and narrow way (i.e. the truth) that leadeth to Christianity, eternal life and the ability to 'follow Jesus' to God's kingdom of heaven.

    Listening, reading and following Genuineoriginal is an antichrist path which billions took, under the leadership of millions of false prophets. This unfortunate and corrupt path has been delivering and will continue to deliver billions (who cannot possible be the chosen few), to that sad and bad place.

    This is what the likes of Genuineoriginal do, simply to keep their spouses and others, in servitude to them on their terms.

    The choice is up to each person. Every one's right to free choice is divinely protects and guarded. Every one is responsible for him/her self. Jesus left two choices:

    Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
    22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.


    One has to be foolish to not realize that 'follow me' is for sheep and 'let the dead bury their dead' is for goats. Of course sheep inherit God's kingdom of heaven. Goats are cast into hell. Clearly sheep are linked to 'following Jesus' whereas goats are linked to 'let the dead bury their dead':

    Matthew: 25 King James Version (KJV)
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


    In addition to the above, it is so clearly confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T. that
    1. the ten commandments are onto death, the ministration of death and him who had the power of death, that is the devil.
    2. the ten commandments are directly linked to and responsible for 'the dead burying their dead',
    3. the ten commandments are the ministration of death and they were done away with by Jesus and replace by His Spirit.
    4. the ten commandments are him who had the power of death, that is the devil.
    5. that those who are held under the ten commandments are not under grace of God and Christ has benefited them nothing.

    Genuineoriginal is a live example of one serving the antichrist agenda of false prophets and unawares false spying brethren who delight in denying Christians their God's given right to transgress the ten commandments The aim of Genuineoriginal and his likes is to corruptly return Christians to bondage under the ten commandments, which are a serious curse.

    Please beware of 'wolves in sheep clothing':

    Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
    15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


    'Wolves in sheep clothing' would be people who present themselves (falsely) as 'sheep', i.e. authentic Christians. You would not be able to tell them apart form the real thing. They can be and will be like Genuineoriginal. They can be like Peter, who Jesus identified to be Satan. They are simply people who pretend to be Christians with the aim and agenda of undermining Christianity and deceiving Christians. Their agenda and aim is pro O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/rule from the top/Antichrist agenda and not the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit/Christ/Jesus/individual self actualizing agenda.

    Do not be alarmed that the the likes of Genuineoriginal (who call themselves genuine and original) are false prophets and unawares false spying brethren. It has long been prophesied that they (i.e. false prophets and unawares false spying brethren) will be many (millions) and hey will deceive billions. And they will be well respected/accepted within the core of what passes for Christianity. This is the only way that they can and will successfully deceive many (i.e. billions) by their false Christianity.

    Billions of unsuspecting aspiring Christians will turn to these false prophets and unawares false spying brethren, within what passes for Christianity. They will all be deceived. This is prophesy . . . so do not be alarmed at this eleventh hour.

    These false prophets will include unawares, false spying brethren. They are people who have been corruptly promoting and will continue to corruptly promote, the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment system, as the N.T./Christ/Jesus system. Their aim is undermine and destroy Christianity, so as to return Christians to bondage under the ten commandments. They are exactly like the Jews who denied, persecuted, tortured and then killed Jesus and then went on to persecute Christians, 2000 odd years ago:

    1 Thessalonians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
    15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us )
    (i.e. Christians); and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:


    There is simply no other way to put this fact. For 2000 odd years, false prophets and unawares false spying brethren have ruled over and corrupted Christianity and so deceived billions.

    For 2000 odd years a go they were the false prophets and unawares false spying brethren who have denied Christians their God given right to transgress the ten commandments so as to unconditionally serve their own spirits.

    They do the above, simply because they want return Christians to bondage under the ten commandments which are a serious curse. These people are O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. They are not N.T./Christian/Jesus people.

    And for the past 2000 odd years, in order to accomplish their mass deception, these millions of false prophets and unawares false spying brethren have been falsely presenting themselves as Christians and they have been operating from within the cord of what passed for Christianity. And from this power and vantage, point they have successfully deceived billions.

    The above is why many are called and only a few chosen. Billion were deceived by false prophets from within what commonly passed for Christina. Billions did not come to know truth (scriptures). Billions err and were not chosen.

    The above was the predicted end for those (billions) who came to traditional "Christian" institutions seeking truth/scriptures. It was long predicted that they (billions) will be deceived by false prophets, not get truth/scriptures, err and not make it:

    Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
    11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
    24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?


    A long time ago, Jesus knew that false prophets and unawares false spying brethren will run rampant among billions of aspiring Christians and deceived them.

    Jesus knew (2000 odd years ago) that many will be called to be Christians but the very great majority will be deceived by false prophets and unawares (i.e. spiritually dead people) false spying brethren, resulting in only a few making it.

    Genuineoriginal is one among the above brigade. He is clearly anti-the Holy KJV N.T.

    Readers, this is not about Genuineoriginal and I. I offer no opinion or interpretation of my own. I simply accept and post the Holy KJV N.T., as is.

    This is clearly about Genuineoriginal and the Holy KJV N.T..

    This is also about you and the choice which you make.

    Being Christian is about follow Jesus and according to the above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T., this is about transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of one's own spirit/heart.

    The above is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. This gives one freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve one's own spirit/heart, in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus:

    Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


    The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is the law for Christians. This requires one to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve one's own spirit/heart, in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus.

    Those who, in the last manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are not Christians.

    Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
    22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
    23 For all (who in the least manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments) have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
    24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:


    Do you believe and accept that Jesus redeemed you from the ten commandments (which are a curse)? Did you accept that the ten commandments are 'onto death', 'the ministration of death' and 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'? Do you also accept that Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit? These are the fundamentals of Christianity.

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
    17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


    The above says that the ten commandments (that which was written and engraved in stone) are the ministration of death. The above also say that Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit.

    The ministration of death is also 'him who had the power of death that is the devil'. Therefore the ten commandments are the devil (in ideas form). And the following say that Jesus came to destroy the 'him who had the power of death that is the devil' (which are the ten commandments):

    Hebrews: 2 King James Version (KJV)
    14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


    The above was fulfilled when Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit. This is the fundamentals of Christianity. However only a chosen few will discern and know this truth. Billions will miss this or be deprived of this, truth. They will not find the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life, Christianity and entry to God's kingdom of heaven, with Jesus. billions have been falling and will continue to fall, by the way side.

    The question is are you doing the above, or are you simply a make believe (i.e. false) Christian. Are you among the chosen few who are authentic Christians or are you among the billions who fall through the cracks and do not make it. This is the bottom line.

    Are you going to argues foolishness and seek to justify foolishness, or are you going to come onto truth in these lasts days?

    Does it mean nothing to you that a billion or so traditional Christians and a billion or so Catholics cannot be chosen few few who found and know truth?

    Why would anyone who is seeking to (be the chosen few who) follow Jesus and to (be the chosen few) Christian want to justify the shared folly of a billion or so traditional Christians and a billion or so Catholics.

    There are so many independent revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. that say that a billion or so traditional Christians and a billion or so Catholics are collectively and jointly, a very foolish and the totally deceived 'hell bent' masses . . . and not at all the chosen few who inherit God's kingdom of heaven.

    Do you guys care (in the least way) about the above?
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    Coveting and bearing false witness are God's righteousness for Christians.

    Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
    4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
    5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
    6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
    7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


    The above confirms that newly spiritually awakened people are 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the ten commandments so that they can transgress the 'the thou shalt not covet' commandment (and all the ten commandments) so that they can unconditionally covert (and also transgress the other ten commandments) in order to serve in the newness of spirits/hearts.

    However we are told the following:

    Matthew: 15 King James Version (KJV)
    19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:


    The first revelation instructs, 'newly spiritually aware people to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit'. The second say that 'out of one's heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies'.

    The question is how does one reconcile these two revelations, especially since one's heart is one's spirit?

    Clearly when one becomes awakened to/aware of one's own heart/spirit, evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies can proceed from one's heart/spirit.

    Therefore awakened to/becoming aware of, one's own heart/spirit is not a final step. This does not make one a Christians. This simply gives one the capacity to stop bringing forth fruits onto death/children of the flesh and to start bringing forth fruits onto God/children of God. Prior to this awakening to one's own heart/spirit, one was totally in the flesh and one could and did, bring forth only fruits onto death/children of the flesh.

    However one cannot deny these revelations. One cannot correct or interpret these revelation according to one's own ideas. These revelations must be accepted, as is.

    Becoming awakened to/aware of one's own spirit/heart is simply a first passage. One must seek out more information, as confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T.

    Fact is, in the first verses, a spiritually awaken person is instructed to covet in order to serve in the newness of spirit/heart. Therefore under the Christian system, one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to covet in order to serve in the newness of heart/spirit.

    We have further endorsement that in God's righteousness it is quite correct, permitted and appropriate for Christians to bear, 'false witness'. This is transgression of another of the ten commandments:

    James: 2 King James Version (KJV)
    25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


    The above refers to an incident in which Rehab, a reputed prostitute and Christian deliberately told a lie to protect some fellow Christians. She was glorified for telling this lie.

    So here, quite contrary to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system, we have people being instructed to covet and another being glorified for telling a lie.

    Therefore, under God's righteousness, coveting and telling lies are not bad or forbidden for some people. However it is a grave sin for some other people.

    One should be very concerned about being with the group of people for whom coveting and telling lies are not bad or forbidden under God's righteousness. These are the Christians. They are not under the ten commandments. In fact, they have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit/heart.

    The question is: why is it totally necessary for one to totally abandon the ten commandments? The answer is as follows:

    The fact is that, every one who choose to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are doomed to spiritual death and delivery to hell. Fact is, the ten commandments makes one and keeps one, spiritually dead (i.e. dead to one's spirit/heart). At no event, can such a one serve in the newness of spirit. They can serve, only their flesh.

    Also, no one who is under the ten commandments makes it. Under the ten commandments all sin and fall short of the glory of God. The ten commandments is a totally and unrelenting curse. The ten commandments are 'onto death', 'the ministration of death' and 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'.

    The above is why Jesus offered another approach to God's righteousness. One that is totally without the ten commandments.

    Under the New system, that was introduced by Jesus, one is required to ignore and transgress the ten commandments, in order to serve in the newness of spirit.

    The question is how does one transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit? How does one 'serve in the newness of spirit'.

    Clearly 'serving in the newness of spirit' defines a new system of guidance that is anchored in spirit. The most fundamental thing about this new system is that, under this system, one is instructed to covet in order to serve in the newness of spirit.

    'Serving in the newness of spirit' is the first definition of the New covenant. However it is a fairly loose statement (as introduction definitions tend to be). It describes a whole new system, the details of which must be discerned from other revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

    'Serving in the newness of spirit' is not the same as serving one's own spirit. 'Serving in the newness of spirit' refers to a system of guidance that involves much more. This is the N.T./Christian/Jesus system of guidance.

    'Serving in the newness of spirit' is anchored in searching one's own heart/spirit (in real time, all the time) to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do (in real time, all the time). Then doing this (in real time all the times) even if one has to transgress the ten commandments. This is the whole of the new covenant and the complete and only anchor of Christianity.

    Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
    26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
    27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he (i.e. the Spirit of Jesus) maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
    28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.


    Only after spiritual awakening can one search one's own heart/spirit (in real time, all the time) to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do (in real time, all the time). Then when one is led by this information (in real time, all the time), unconditionally, i.e. even if one has to blatantly transgress the ten commandment, one is glorified by God. Then one stops bringing forth fruits onto death/children of the flesh and start bringing forth fruits onto God/children of God.

    By bringing forth only fruits onto God/children of God one inherits God's kingdom of heaven. This is the total and only passage:

    Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
    43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


    Fruits onto onto God/children of God and fruits onto death/children of the flesh are mentioned in Romans: 7 verses: 4 to 7, of the Holy KJV N.T.

    'Fruits thereof' are fruits onto God/children of God, like Isaac. These are brought forth only by the chosen few (authentic) Christians. These are people who transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus.

    'Fruits onto death', include children of the flesh, like Ishmael. These are brought forth by all people who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. Fruits onto dearth/children of the flesh are not the fruits thereof which gains one entry to God's kingdom of heaven.

    The sad fact is that those who bring forth fruits onto death/children of the flesh are spiritually dead and so are their off-springs. And they and their off-springs go to hell.

    Satan describes all humans who are still in the flesh. Satan is one who savor the thing of man (i.e. flesh things) and not the things of God (spirit thing). All all event Satan people and their off-springs are all fruits onto death/children of the flesh. They are not fruits onto God/children of God. They are not 'the fruits thereof'. They cannot and do not inherit God's kingdom of heaven.

    The above is why Peter, who Jesus identified to be Satan, can only and must only, send all who follow him, his popes and their church to hell (Purgatory).

    My dear few readers, it is time time to make a wise choice.
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    Thank you, genuineoriginal.

    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Those who transgress the ten commandments to serve their own spirits/hearts are not following Jesus.
    You are correct. The instruction is to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is not the same as serving one's own spirit.

    Thank you for your observation and wisdom. I stand corrected.

    I welcome your participation and correction, any time and at all the times, if and when necessary.

    I sought to address the details of your correction on post # 34, above.

    Until now, I was preoccupied with the idea that the ten commandments must be shown to be a curse and not a part of Christianity. Things seem to be changing. This point seems to becoming accepted by more people.

    Acceptance of the above truth will open the straight gate and narrow way to truth, eternal life, Christianity and entry into God's kingdom of heaven. Your point pertains to spirituality which comes after one awakens to the fact that the ten commandments are not a part of Christianity. This happens when one's awakens to one's own spirit. This is because the ten commandments makes and keeps one spiritually dead. Fact is, the ten commandments are 'onto death', 'the ministration of death' and 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'.

    While the above seems correct. It seems that I was being careless and needed correction when I posted "those who transgress the ten commandments to serve their own spirits/hearts are following Jesus" They are not.

    I am so happy that you detected this err and corrected me. This means that I do not stand alone.

    Your statement is good and valid.

    Your correction was helpful to me. It corrected my careless mistake. Yours was a constructive Christian post. You seem on the ball.

    I do not want to slip away from the authentic and literal words, in the Holy KJV N.T.

    True to your name, you brought me back to the genuine and original words in the Holy KJV N.T..

    Thanks again.

    Hope that you do not mind that I am celebrating this event a bit. You have opened the authentic debate on Christianity, i.e., the spirit dimension.

    Christianity is a spiritual tradition. Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is not at all, based on the ten commandments/Mosaic/O.T. ideologies, which anchors a religion.

    Transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit is the fundamental principle of Christianity. However 'serving in the newness of spirit' is simply a title which defines/labels a spiritual way of life, that is described in more details in the Holy KJV N.T..

    Please do not let me get away with posting errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam View Post
    The instruction is to transgress the ten commandments
    What does the Bible state about transgressing the ten commandments?

    1 John 3:4
    4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.



    James 2:8-10
    8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
    9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
    10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    What does the Bible state about transgressing the ten commandments?

    1 John 3:4
    4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.



    James 2:8-10
    8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
    9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
    10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
    The Holy KJV N.T. says to sets of opposing things about the ten commandments.

    In fact, the Holy KJV N.T. has two different sets of instructions which are based on two sets of righteousness. These two sets of righteousness are the basis of Jesus' two aims, two agendas and two intent which is stated as follows:

    Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
    22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.


    Obviously, there are those who were given by God to follow Jesus and there are the others who were not given to follow Jesus. The latter ones are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    The sad fact is that, 2000 odd years ago, only the twelve disciples were given by God to follow Jesus and to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven from Jesus, everyone else were 'the dead who would bury their dead'.

    In total obedience to God, His Father, Jesus delivered the mysteries to God's kingdom of heaven to only the disciples in very private sessions among only them. Because, back then, only they were given by God to follow Jesus and to get the mysteires of God's kingdom of heaven from Jesus.

    However Jesus also had to and did deliver lots of other things (lectures etc.) in public (to the masses), even when the disciples were present.

    Therefore Jesus delivered righteousness that was based on the ten commandments, which Moses gave, to the masses. These people were the masses, who openly received lectures etc., from Jesus.

    And in very private sessions Jesus delivered a new righteousness that was of God (not Moses) to those who were given by God to follow Him and get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

    One set of instructions is anchored on God's righteousness. This is for those who are given by God to follow Jesus and get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These people are the born again. That is, people who have awakened to and are aware of their spirit. They are instructed to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit. These people are under righteousness of God that is with out the ten commandments. Instead these people are led by the Spirit of Jesus. And were the Spirit of Jesus is, there is liberty to transgress the ten commandments.

    The other set of instructions is anchored on the ten commandments which were given by Moses. These are given for use by those who are not given by God to follow Jesus. These people are describes as having 'eyes that do not see', ears that do not hear' and 'hearts/spirits that are waxed gross'. A heart that is waxed gross is a heart/spirit that is covered over. This is to be 'dead to one's spirit'. Such a person is described as 'the dead'. These p[eople cannot and do not follow Jesus. They are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    People who have hearts that are waxed gross

    who are 'the dead' (i.e. dead to their own hearts or spirit) and also not given by God to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam View Post
    One set of instructions is anchored on God's righteousness. This is for those who are given by God to follow Jesus and get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These people are the born again. That is, people who have awakened to and are aware of their spirit. They are instructed to transgress the ten commandments
    The Bible never instructs Christians to transgress the ten commandments, but let's see the effect of your ideas.

    "Christians" that believe like you teach would have multiple gods instead of only one.

    Deuteronomy 5:6-7
    6 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
    7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would make idols and bow down to them.

    Deuteronomy 5:8-10
    8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
    9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
    10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would always take the name of God in vain.

    Deuteronomy 5:11
    11 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would never have a day of rest.

    Deuteronomy 5:12-15
    12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee.
    13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
    14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ***, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
    15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would never honor their father and mother.

    Deuteronomy 5:16
    16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would go around murdering anyone they wanted.

    Deuteronomy 5:17
    17 Thou shalt not kill.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would go around committing adultery with anyone they desired.

    Deuteronomy 5:18
    18 Neither shalt thou commit adultery.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would go around stealing whatever they wanted.

    Deuteronomy 5:19
    19 Neither shalt thou steal.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would go around committing perjury to get innocent people convicted of crimes they never did.

    Deuteronomy 5:20
    20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.


    "Christians" that believe like you teach would always envy their neighbor for having wealth.

    Deuteronomy 5:21
    21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ***, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.



    Why would you want to be that kind of "Christian"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    What does the Bible state about transgressing the ten commandments?

    1 John 3:4
    4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.



    James 2:8-10
    8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
    9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
    10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
    The Holy KJV N.T. says two sets of opposing things about the ten commandments.

    The Holy KJV N.T. says that those instructions which, in any way, relates to the ten commandments are only for those who are under the ten commandments. Also the Holy KJV N.T. says that the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God:

    Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    19 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) we know that what things soever the law (the ten commandments) saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

    John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


    John, in the Holy KJV N.T. says: Moses, as a king or leader, gave the ten commandments. This made them the royal law. John, in the Holy KJV N.T. says that the ten commandments were not laws from God but were given by Moses. Clearly Moses was a king/royal leader. Therefore the ten commandments were a royal decree and not God's law.

    One who denies, corrupt and/or undermine the above are seriously guilty before God. Also 'the royal law' describes a law of the ruling kings and other human leaders and not, at all, the law of God.

    Even though the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God, and even though, 2000 odd years ago, Jesus gave 'righteousness' that was from God and not Moses, back then the majority of people still wanted to be under Moses laws. These were spiritually dead people. Their hearts were 'waxed gross'/cover over and they were therefore not given by God to get or know the mysteries of His kingdom of heaven. Jesus instructed the disciples (i.e. those who were given by God to follow Him) to leave these people (i.e. the dead, who still wanted to be under the ten commandment) to their own devises, i.e. let the dead bury their dead.

    'The dead' are spiritually dead people. When they (i.e. spiritually dead people) die physically their physically alive (but spiritually dead) peers bury them inside the earth, in hell (Purgatory), for an undetermined stay. They are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    The above people are not Christians (who are a chosen few). These are not the ones who follow Jesus to spirit heaven, in three days after they physically die.

    The Holy KJV N.T. say that there are people who are 'the dead'. However the Holy KJV N.T. also says that, there were and are people who were not 'the dead'. Form the billions of those who come to Christianity, these are and will continue to be only a chosen few people. They will not be the dead who bury their dead. They will be the chosen few who have awakened to/is aware of, their spirits/hearts. They are spiritually aware people. From the billions who seek to be Christians, only these chosen few people can follow Jesus. The masses (all others) are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    Jesus left two options, 'follow me' and let 'the dead bury their dead'.

    The hearts of the above people were not waxed gross. They were spiritually awakened. 2000 odd years, among the people who Jesus encountered, only these people were given to get and know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Back then, when Jesus walked on earth as man, these were only the twelve disciples.

    Back then, Jesus confirmed that only these twelve disciples were given by God to follow Him and only they were given by God to get and know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This was because only they had 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. No one else had these faculties developed.

    These people can serve in the newness of spirit and they were instructed to transgress the ten commandments (i.e. they must covert) in order to serve in the newness of spirit.

    The above fact gave rise to two totally different deliveries which Jesus was required by God, His Father, to provide. One was for 'the dead' (who would be left to bury each other in hell) and the other for the spiritually aware who had the actualization to follow Jesus to heaven.

    2000 odd years ago, from among those who Jesus encountered, those who could follow Jesus were just the twelve disciples. Everyone else were 'the dead who were would inevitably bury their dead'.

    It was left to each person who wish to follow Jesus to discern form the Holy KJV N.T., how, not to be 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    It was plainly stated that the ten commandments were 'onto death', 'the ministration of death' and 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'.

    Clearly any one who, in the least manner esteems, uses, invokes and/or promote the ten commandments are made and kept 'the dead who bury their dead' in hell (Purgatory). They are not the ones who 'follow Jesus' to heaven.
    .

    And indeed, the Holy KJV N.T. has two different sets of instructions which are based on two sets of righteousness. These two sets of righteousness are the basis of Jesus' two aims, two agendas and two intent which are stated as follows:

    Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
    22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.


    Obviously, there are those who were given by God to follow Jesus and there are the others who were not given to follow Jesus. The latter ones are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    The sad fact is that, 2000 odd years ago, only the twelve disciples were given by God to follow Jesus and to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven from Jesus, everyone else were 'the dead who would bury their dead'.

    In total obedience to God, His Father, Jesus delivered the mysteries to God's kingdom of heaven to only the disciples in very private sessions among only them. Because, back then, only they were given by God to follow Jesus and to get the mysteires of God's kingdom of heaven from Jesus.

    However Jesus also had to and did deliver lots of other things (lectures etc.) in public (to the masses), even when the disciples were present.

    Therefore Jesus delivered righteousness that was based on the ten commandments, which Moses gave, to the masses. These people were the masses, who openly received lectures etc., from Jesus.

    And in very private sessions Jesus delivered a new righteousness that was of God (not Moses) to those who were given by God to follow Him and get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

    One set of instructions is anchored on God's righteousness. This is for those who are given by God to follow Jesus and get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These people are the born again. That is, people who have awakened to and are aware of their spirit. They are instructed to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit. These people are under righteousness of God that is with out the ten commandments. Instead these people are led by the Spirit of Jesus. And were the Spirit of Jesus is, there is liberty to transgress the ten commandments.

    The other set of instructions is anchored on the ten commandments which were given by Moses. These are given for use by those who are not given by God to follow Jesus. These people are describes as having 'eyes that do not see', ears that do not hear' and 'hearts/spirits that are waxed gross'. A heart that is waxed gross is a heart/spirit that is covered over. This is to be 'dead to one's spirit'. Such a person is described as 'the dead'. These people cannot and do not follow Jesus. They are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

    People who have hearts that are waxed gross are 'the dead' (i.e. dead to their own hearts or spirit). Also not given by God to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

    It is left entirely to the free choice of each person to make their choice.

    One can choose the ten commandments which were given by Moses and not God. Under this system one is inevitably 'the dead who bury their dead'. Things (instructions etc.) that are related to the ten commandments are only for those who make this choice. And indeed, under this system all are made and remain spiritually dead and all fall short of the glory of God and end in hell.

    On the other hand, one can choose righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments. This is the true righteousness that is from God (and not Moses). This is anchored on the Spirit of Jesus. This is for spiritually aware people. Spiritually aware people have the required actualization to search each of their own hearts/spirit and discern and be led by the Spirit of Jesus. And were the Spirit of Jesus is, there is God given liberty to transgress the ten commandments.

    Genuineoriginal,

    One must have a spiritual Gift to discern Christianity and live a Christian life. Also one must have an additional Gift of the Spirit to discern and teach Christianity. One must have long abandon the ten commandments and come onto a life style of transgressing the ten commandments so as to unconditionally obey the Spirit of Jesus, in order to have these Gifts of the Spirit and access Truth which is the basis of Christianity:

    John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
    13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


    The above is the main mystery of God's kingdom of heaven. It was given to the disciples privately in session among only them. The above say that when the Spirit of Truth comes he will bring All Truth. The Spirit of Truth (who bring All Truth) was not available while Jesus walked on earth, as a man.

    Jesus had to be crucified and raised to spirit heaven before the Spirit of Truth became available to bring All Truth. Therefore nothing that the physical Jesus delivered was All Truth. Jesus left it to the Spirit of Truth to become available after his death and resurrection, to bring All Truth. This is the primary mystery of God's kingdom of heaven (i.e. that truth, which is the basis of Christianity) cannot be available in the written scriptures.

    The main mystery of God's kingdom of heaven is that Truth which is the basis of Christianity is not at all in the written scriptures. Truth which is the basis of Christianity can be and must be had, individually, privately and personally by each person, through a connection between, each of their own spirits and the Spirit of Truth, who is also the Spirit of Jesus and the Spirit of Intercession.

    The sad fact is that those who use the written scriptures are the dead who bury their dead. The written scriptures (and the ten commandments) are the letter which killeth. Only the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession giveth life.

    You are still under the ten commandments. You still perceive wisdom in the ten commandments. Therefore you are still spiritually dead. You cannot and do not posses the required spiritual Gifts to discern Christianity, far less to teach Christianity. If and when you seek to teach Christianity you become the essential fabric of a false prophet and an unaware (i.e. spiritually dead) false spying brethren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurucam View Post
    One can choose the ten commandments which were given by Moses and not God.
    According to the Bible (even the KJV version), God Himself gave the ten commandments to Moses after God Himself had spoken the ten commandments to the children of Israel gathered around the base of Mount Sinai.

    Deuteronomy 10:4
    4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the Lord spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the Lord gave them unto me.

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    Moses did not bring truth, only Jesus brought truth.

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    According to the Bible (even the KJV version), God Himself gave the ten commandments to Moses after God Himself had spoken the ten commandments to the children of Israel gathered around the base of Mount Sinai.

    Deuteronomy 10:4
    4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the Lord spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the Lord gave them unto me.

    The Holy KJV N.T. says a different thing.

    John, in the Holy KJV N.T. say that Moses gave the ten commandments.

    The Holy KJV N.T. also says that Moses lied to the Jews when he gave them the ten commandments. Precisely the Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews:

    John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


    The above also says that Moses did not bring truth. Only Jesus brought truth. The above does not stand alone.

    The Holy KJV N.T., in another revelation, says (quite deliberately) that Moses did not speak the truth when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. More precisely the Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews.

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


    The above says that Moses 'did not use great plainness of speech', 'he put a veil over his face' (i.e. Moses 'fooled-up') the Jews when he gave the Jews the ten commandments:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


    'We use great plainness of speech, not as Moses who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished"

    In the above 'we' is Jesus and Paul. 'We use great plainness of speech' is we Jesus and I, Paul) spoke the real truth.

    In the above 'not as Moses, which put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished' is: Jesus and I were not like Moses, because we did not cover up an important fact about the ten commandments. Jesus and I did not cover-up the fact that the ten commandments must eventually be abolished (done away with).

    The above says that Jesus and I (Paul) is telling you the truth which Moses did not tell when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. The truth is that the ten commandments must eventually be abolished (i.e. done away with). Moses did not make this disclosure to the Jews when he gave the ten commandments. Therefore, until Jesus came to earth, in a human physical body all Jews sincerely believed that ten commandments were God's eternal laws that would never be abolished (i.e. done away with).

    Therefore, as John confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T., the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God. Moses simply fooled-up' the Jews. Moses fooled up the Jews into believing that the ten commandments were from 'the Lord'. Moses did this so as to make the ten commandments more acceptable and enforceable, as laws of the land for the landless Jews way back when he (Moses) gave them the ten commandments.

    The ten commandments and the ideas that the ten commandments were 'the laws of the Lord' has a long run. The ten commandments and the ideas that the ten commandments were 'the laws of the Lord' run in that manner until the advent of Jesus coming to earth in a human physical body, some 2000 odd years ago.

    After that long run of the ten commandment, (2000 odd years ago) Jesus, John and Paul confirmed that:
    1. the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God.
    2. the ten commandments were found to be onto death,
    3. the ten commandments were and are the ministration of death,
    4. the ten commandments is him who had the power of death, that is the devil
    5. Moses did not speak the plain truth when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews
    6. it was intended, even when Moses gave the ten commandments, that the ten commandments would eventually be abolished. Therefore Moses gave the ten commandments and not God.
    7. the time for abolishing (i.e. doing away with) the ten commandments was at hand.
    8. ten commandments were done-away-with (abolished) by Jesus and replace with the Spirit of Jesus:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
    17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


    The above says that 'the ministration of death that was written and engraved in stone was glorious and this glory was to be 'done-away'. 'the ministration of death that was written and engraved in stone is the ten commandments. The above is confirming that ten commandments which is the ministration of death (i.e. which killeth), was previously glorious, however this glory was now to be done away.

    The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. says that the ten commandments were originally glorious and remained glorious until Jesus came to earth in a human physical body. Then the glory of the ten commandments was to be ended. The ten commandments were to cease having its previous glory. They were to abolished/done away with.

    The reason for the doing away with the glory of the ten commandments is that the ten commandments were found to be 'onto death', 'the ministration of death' and 'him who had the power of death that is the devil'. The plain fact is that all who, in the least manner, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are inevitably made 'the dead (who bury each other inside the earth, in hell). That is, all who, in the least manner, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments inevitably sin and fall short of the glory of God.

    The above was realized in heaven, before the advent of Jesus coming to earth in a human physical body. This make it necessary for Jesus to come to earth, as He did, to destroy the ten commandments which was and continue to be, 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil':

    Hebrews: 2 KJV N.T.
    14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


    In addition to the above, Jesus and others in heaven, knew that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he delivered the ten commandments. They knew that Moses gave the ten commandments and not God. They also knew that Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments will eventually be abolished. Jesus came to tell the Jews and those other people these truths. Jesus also came to abolish/do away with, the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
    17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


    Fact is, the glory of God's laws are never 'done-way-with'. God's laws are never abolished, i.e. God's laws are never 'done away with'/abolished. The above tells us that 'the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished'. "that which is abolished' is the ministration of death which was written and engraved in stone. This is the ten commandments.

    The above says that the glory of the ten commandments was to be done away. This confirms that, although the Jews were told otherwise and believed other wise, the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God.

    The ten commandments were Moses' laws and not God's laws. The Jews were simply 'fooled-up' by Moses (when he gave them the ten commandments) into believing that the ten commandments were God's eternal laws. This was done simply to have them (i.e. the Jews) obey the ten commandments with out the need for human policemen or human schoolmasters.

    As people without a land they (i.e. the Jews) could have no formal institution of justice which include policemen or schoolmasters, etc.. Because of this, the ten commandments were given by Moses (their human leader) as their social and physical behavioral laws.

    And because the landless Jews could have no formal (modern) system of enforcement and upholding these laws (i.e. the ten commandments which were their social laws) the idea that these laws (i.e. the ten commandments) were God's law was promoted by Moses, to add fear of transgressing, these laws.

    God was linked to the ten commandments to enforce fear of transgressing these laws. The ten commandments was used in this manner, as a 'not seen' policeman/schoolmaster. The Jews knew that God was 'all knowing/all aware'.

    Moses simply used this knowledge to rule the behavior of the Jews by fooling them into believing that the ten commandments were God's laws. In this way the Jews would believe that God will always know if and when they transgress the ten commandments and punishment will invariably follow. This made God the always present and always aware, not seen policeman.

    And so, under fear of an all knowing God, the Jews will always obey the ten commandments which were essentially only social and civil laws. Moses simply used God to serve his management of his followers on his (Moses') terms. It was all a sham which Moses perpetrated on the Jews. However it was done with good intention ans for a good purpose.

    Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
    25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


    Therefore the ten commandments and its way of policing the Jews worked o.k. as a system of managing the physical/carnal behavior of the Jews on earth. However the ten commandment proved to be a curse when it came to spiritual and eternal life and when it came to gaining entry to God's kingdom of heaven.

    Fact is, the ten commandments were intended for permanent use. The ten commandments were intended to be used on the Jews only up until they became spiritually aware and Christians. Then the ten commandments were to be abolished (i.e. done-away-with).

    Moses did not tell the Jews the above fact. Moses fool-up the Jews. And so the Jews (back then and up to this day) erroneously believe that the ten commandments were given by God and are God's eternal laws.

    The truth, according to the Holy KJV N.T. is that Moses lied (he did not use great plainness of speech), when he gave the ten commandants. It was only when Jesus came in a human physical body that He bought the truth about the ten commandments. And even the, many Jews did not accept Jesus and his message of truth (especially about the ten commandments).

    Fact is, 2000 odd years ago, it was time for truth about the ten commandments, to be given to all people who had the above false belief. It was time to tell the truth more openly. Jesus was given by God to tell these truths, through his own physical presence and then through Paul.

    As you reported and posted, 'According to the Bible (even the KJV version), God Himself gave the ten commandments to Moses after God Himself had spoken the ten commandments to the children of Israel'. This is based on the words of Moses This is the O.T. belief which Moses created, no doubt about this fact. And this belief was left intact right up until Jesus came to earth, in a human physical body.

    The Holy KJV N.T. confirm that Moses did not speak the truth when he gave the ten commandments. The Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses simply gave the ten commandments. The Holy KJV N.T. says that truth came with Jesus Christ. Moses did not bring or give truth. Therefore even though Moses words about the ten commandments are recorded in the O.T. and also in other pre-Jesus works, Jesus, Paul and the Holy KJV N.T. say very clearly that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments. to the Jews.

    Therefore, according to the Holy KJV N.T., quoting Moses and what is recorded in the O.T., with respect to the ten commandments, is not reliable or true.

    The Holy KJV N.T. says that: Moses did not bring truth, only Jesus brought truth. Moses simply gave the ten commandments and when Moses did so, he did not use great plainness of speech (Moses lied about the ten commandments):

    John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


    It was not Moses' God given Job to bring truth. The Jews at that time was not given by God to know or get truth. It was Moses' God given job to simply manage the civil and physical behavior of the Jews back them.


    It was only much later, after Moses gave the ten commandments, that any one in those parts were given by God to get truth. Then Jesus came to them to bring truth. This was the first time that truth came to the Jews and those other people (i.e. for the first time). And even then only the disciples were given by God to get and know truth. No one else qualified to get truth. And so Jesus delivered truth to only the disciples.


    Since then and up to this day, from among all people who are seeking truth in that catchment of people, only a few were and are given by God to get and know truth. These are the chosen few who found the straight gate and narrow way:

    Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


    Billions have fallen and will continue to fall, 'through the cracks' and 'by the way side'.


    Now that is it clear that the O.T. and the N.T. say different things about the ten commandments, the question is which is the truth.

    The next post will show that the Holy KJV N.T. bears truth and the O.T. does not bear truth.
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    Moses did not bring truth and the O.T. does not contain truth.

    Fact is, people, all other things on earth and earth, herself, goes through ages.

    Moses came to earth around 3599 odd years ago.

    Jesus came to earth around 2000 odd years ago.

    These marked the time of the end of one period and the start of a new period. According to Prophet Daniel, at these times increased knowledge surface:

    Daniel: 12 King James Version (KJV)
    4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


    Moses heralded the closing of a previous age and the dawn of a new age This new age started some 3599 years ago and this age was based on the increased knowledge which Moses brought. This O.T/Mosaic/ten commandments age lasted for 1599 or so years. This is according to modern day calculations which may be flawed. The actual length of the age is not consequential for this post. What is very consequential is that people, things and the earth herself, go through ages. And the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments age ended when Jesus came to earth.

    After Moses' age had had it run. Jesus came and heralded the close of Moses' Age and the dawn of a new age, based on the N.T./transgress the ten commandments/Christianity/Jesus.

    Like Moses at his coming, when Jesus came he also brought increased knowledge, of a more advance level (than the increased knowledge which Moses brought at his coming). This increased knowledge included new knowledge which was that:
    1. Moses did not bring truth and
    2. that the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God and
    3. that the ten commandments were not founded on truth and
    4. that the ten commandments were not God's laws of righteousness, but Moses ' laws of righteousness.

    Fact is, the Holy KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that, Moses did not bring truth. In fact, the Holy KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that, Moses lied. Moses simply gave the ten commandments and hid the truth. The Holy KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that, Jesus brought truth.

    The following confirms that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven (i.e. truth) was hid from those people, until Jesus came among them and even then, the mysteries of God' kingdom of heaven, which is truth, was given by Jesus to only the disciples/saints of that time:

    Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
    26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:


    In the above 'saints' are Christians. There were no Christians before the advent of Jesus on earth, as a man. The O.T. will not and do not contain the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven which are 'all truth'. Also the mysteries of God's kingdom which were hid, before, was given by Jesus to only the disciples 2000 odd years ago.

    No one else (apart form the twelve disciples) got these mysteries from Jesus. The masses did not get these mysteries. The masses were simply not given by God to get these mysteries. So Jesus simply bluff and fool-up the masses with parables. The sad irony is that billions of traditional Christians and Catholics esteem, use, invoke and/or promote parables:

    Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
    10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
    11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
    12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
    13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.


    Fact is, truth came only with Jesus. Moses did not bring truth. When Moses was here, those people were not given by God to know and get truth. They were all 'the dead' and the dead are not given by God to know or get truth. Because of this, Moses' God given mission was not to bring truth. Moses' God given mission was simply to give the ten commandments for regulating the civil and physical behavior of his followers. Moses did this, any which way, even by fooling-up the Jews.

    The advent of Moses, the O.T and the ten commandments started 3599 odd years ago and ended 2000 odd years ago, with the advent of Jesus.

    Therefore 2000 odd years ago,the old Mosaic age ended and a new age started. This was when it now became given by God for some of those people to know and get truth. This is when Jesus came to bring truth. This new age started 2000 odd years ago. This is the start of the Age of Christianity.

    This means that the Holy KJV N.T. contains truth and the O.T. does not contain truth.

    The focus of Moses and the O.T. was not to bring truth but to, any which way, manage people who were spiritually dead and therefore not given by God to know or get truth.

    On the other hand, 1399 odd years later, (which was 2000 or so years ago) it was given by God for Jesus to come among those people and bring truth, for the first time. This was necessary because some of them would ceased being 'the dead' and become spiritually aware. They would have to cease being led by their flesh and the ten commandments and, instead, start transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

    Therefore only Jesus' and Paul's messages and the Holy KJV N.T. contain truth. Truth came only with Jesus. The focus of Jesus and Paul was to bring truth. This is the focus of Jesus, Paul and the Holy KJV N.T.. It is here and only her one will find truth.

    On the other hand, Moses messages and the O.T. do not in any way contain truth. This was not the focus of Moses, the ten commandments and the O.T..

    The O.T. and the N.T. have conflicting revelations about the ten commandments. If one is seeking truth about the ten commandments, this will be found only in the Holy KJV N.T.

    Moses, the O.T., and the ten commandments were not focused on and were not about truth (which delivers one to God's kingdom of heaven). This knowledge was simply too 'high' for those people at that time. At time the aim was to simply regulate and control the physical/carnal behavior of those people.

    The opportunity for those people to come to know and get truth was to come much much later, with the advent of Jesus, i.e. when the time was right, i.e. when some of them became given by God to know and get truth (the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven).

    Truth was made available to those people only through the Spirit of Truth who bring ALL Truth. This Spirit was made available only after Jesus came to earth, as a man, was crucified and then rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body.

    Prior to this the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven (i.e. truth) was total hidden from and not available to, those people. Clearly the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven which are All Truth would not be found in any scriptures or manuscripts etc. that relates to those people and that also predates the advent of Jesus on earth, in a human physical body, 2000 odd years ago.

    The simple revelation is, do not look for truth in the O.T. or in any other old manuscript that predated Jesus. Truth will not be found there or in those old things.

    Therefore the Bible records two different times of the end. And at each of times of the end, 'the words' which was 'shut-up' and sealed in the book, surfaced as increased knowledge.

    First, some 3599 odd years ago, Moses came and he revealed increased knowledge that were previously shut-up and sealed. This heralded the age of the O.T./Moses/the ten commandments.

    Then came Jesus, 2000 odd years ago, and He revealed increased knowledge that was previously shut-up and sealed during the age of Moses, the O.T. and the ten commandments. This heralded the age of truth and Christianity and the physical Jesus.

    The above successions of ages was totally according to the declaration of Prophet Daniel:

    Daniel: 12 King James Version (KJV)
    4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


    Fact is we have entered a new age, another one. Recently the time of the end of the age of the written Holy KJV N.T. and the physical Jesus came to an end.

    We entered another new age. In this new age, Enlightenment in Christ rules. This is the age of rule under the Spirit of Jesus without any written scriptures. This age has no regard for the things which ruled during the past 2 ages.

    At the dawn of this age Jesus will return as the Spirit of Jesus and judge humans and dispatch them to hell, inside the earth or to heaven on earth or in the spirit realm.

    God's righteous for each person will be unique (different). To be able to live on earth each humans must be able to serve in the newness of spirit.

    This means that each person must have the actualization to discern the Spirit of Jesus within his or her own heart/spirit in real time, all the time. And then be led in real time, all the time and unconditionally (even if he or she has to transgress the ten commandments) into all his/her works, by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him/her to know, pray for, say and do.

    The above is to live in enlightenment in Christ. This is the requirement for living on the surface of earth in the recently dawned new age. The above defines righteousness for those who are enlightened in Christ. This is the only way of life that will be permitted, under grace of God, in this new age, on earth.

    The chips are down. Judgement day is at hand. Jesus has already gathered all nations and separated them into sheep and goats, according to how and to what, they soweth, while they lived physically on earth. The next step is to help sheep to inherit the surface of earth in God's kingdom of heaven and to dispatch goats to hell inside the earth.

    The third age, which is the Age of Enlightenment in Christ, is at hand.

    Now the written O.T. and the written N.T. are no longer relevant. These to things what were glorious in their respective times are totally out of here, in this newest age.

    Now only the Spirit of Truth who is also the Spirit of Jesus and the Spirit of Intercession rules here. Only this Spirit of Truth will pass all knowledge (i.e. All Truth) to those who can connect to him (i.e. the Spirit of Truth) through each of their own hearts/spirit.

    Only the spiritually aware/spiritually actualized can have this (essentially intuitive/spirit) capacity. Only they will be able to survive on the surface of earth in this new age when they can and do live in the above manner.

    Genuineoriginal, you are dabbling and stuck, in the very old age of the O.T./Moses/the ten commandments.

    You have not even yet embraced the second age which is the age of the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit/Christian/Jesus.

    Now the third age is at hand. This is the age of spirituality. In this age the world will be ruled by the Spirit of Jesus who must be detected and known only through one own spirit/heart. It was confirmed 2000 odd years ago that any one who, in the least manner, choose to esteem, use, invoke and/or promoted the ten commandments, is totally denied the spiritual actualization to be relevant for this new age of Enlightenment in Christ.

    Genuineoriginal, you never learned to and never did soweth to your own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus. Instead you choose to soweth to flesh and the ten commandments:

    Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
    7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
    8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
    9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


    'Due season' is at hand. Jesus is here and ruling as the Spirit of Jesus. Since 2000 odd years ago it was clearly stated in the Holy KJV N.T., that, now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is the Spirit of Jesus and where this Spirit is their is liberty to transgress the ten commandment.

    Jesus came to lift humans to intuitive/spiritual preparedness for the Age of Enlightenment in Christ, that has now dawned.

    For the past 2000 odd years foolish people like you have ignored and corrupted the above Christian truth because you all delighted in the ideas of the very old O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments age.

    You sacrificed the N.T./Christian/Jesus system at the alter of the O.T./Mosaic. ten commandments system. This has impacted only you, your followers and your like ancestors.

    Now you, like every one else, will now face the consequences of your choices.

    Genuineoriginal you are so far behind and so very lost.
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    Bottom line: Truth came with Jesus. Moses delivered untruths.

    Truth came with Jesus. Moses delivered untruths. This makes all scriptures, manuscripts, etc., which predated Jesus coming to earth in a human physical body, suspect and not reliable as a source for truth.

    This means that, if the Holy KJV N.T. and the O.T. differs in any thing (like it differs with respect to the the ten commandments and things related to the ten commandments), then there is only one option for seekers of truth. That is, if one is interested in truth, only the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. must be accepted and used. This is the bottom line, every thing else is grave and terminal folly.

    John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


    The above also says that Moses did not bring truth. Only Jesus brought truth. However although Moses did not bring truth, he gave the ten commandments. However billions believe that the ten commandments are 'about truth'. This means that: Moses must have given the ten commandments with deceptions. This means that Moses fooled-up the Jew when gave the ten commandments. This conclusion does does not stand alone.

    The Holy KJV N.T., in another revelation, says (quite deliberately) that Moses did not speak the truth when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews.

    More precisely the Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews.

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


    The above says that Moses 'did not use great plainness of speech', 'he put a veil over his face' (i.e. Moses 'fooled-up') the Jews when he gave the Jews the ten commandments. Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments would eventually have to be 'done-away-with'. This says that the ten commandments were not God's eternal laws. This says that ten commandments were given by Moses and the ten commandments were not from God. Fact is God's ;laws are never 'done-away-with':

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


    Are you going to continue to defy Jesus, John and the Holy KJV N.T.?

    Are you going to continue to defy Jesus, John and the Holy KJV N.T., simply because you are an unawares (i.e. a spiritually dead person) who delight in the ten commandments and choose to esteem, use invoke and/or promote the ten commandments?

    Why would you want to be an unawares (i.e. a spiritually dead person) false spying brethren who is in the practice of returning aspiring Christians and Christians (who have God given liberty to transgress the ten commandments), to bondage under the ten commandments which were clearly declared by Jesus to be a curse?

    Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
    4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:


    Christians are seekers, knowers and doers, of truth. Therefore for aspiring Christians and Christians, the above revelations should put a total end to (i.e. a total dismissal of) the O.T., the ten commandments and all other things related to Moses and the Jewish system.

    The idea of 'a full gospel church' (meaning a church which esteems, uses. invokes and/or promote both the O.T. and the N.T.), is under the control of false prophets and that church is total foolishness.
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    Why would billions willfully want to among the unawares false spying brethren?

    Why would you want to be an unawares (i.e. a spiritually dead person) false spying brethren who is in the practice of returning aspiring Christians and Christians (who have God given liberty to transgress the ten commandments), to bondage under the ten commandments which were clearly declared by Jesus to be a curse?

    Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
    4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:


    Additionally, the ten commandments were clearly identified to be, 'the ministration of death'. The ten commandments are 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'. And Jesus came expressly to destroy (i.e. do-away-with) the ten commandments (which is him who had the power of death, that is the devil). And Jesus did, indeed, do-away-with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit.

    Why are you serving the antichrist/the devil/Satan?

    Did you not heed the warning:

    Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.


    The above revelation says that one is very free to quote any thing that is said any where, about the ten commandments. However whatsoever those things say about the ten commandments is applicable only to those who choose to be under the ten commandments. The above also say that any one who deny this revelation will be judged guilty before God and will experience the wrath of God.

    The above revelations says that all things about the ten commandments, do not apply to aspiring Christians and Christians. This is because aspiring Christians and Christians are under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and under this law one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit, in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus.

    Fact is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus makes one free from the law of sin and death, which are the ten commandments:

    Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


    Also there can be and is, no doubt that the ten commandments are 'the law of sin and death'.

    The ten commandments are the laws of sin because everyone who, in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, invariably sin and fall short of the glory of God.

    Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
    23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

    The following also say that the ten commandments are the 'law of sin'. The following also say that: 'when we were in the flesh' we were held under the ten commandments. 'When we were in the flesh' is to be dead to our own heart/spirit. This is to be aware of only our flesh. This is to be 'the dead' in Jesus instruction 'let the dead who bury their dead':

    Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
    5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
    7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


    Two things must be critically noted in the above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T.:
    1. the motion of sin, which were by the law.
    2. the law, which is being spoken about here, is the 'thou shalt not covet' commandments (and by extension all the ten commandments).

    The following say that the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment (and by extension all the ten commandments) are the law of sin. The following says that the ten commandments are 'the ministration of death' and they were done away with by Jesus and replace by His Spirit:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
    17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


    Therefore, without a doubt, the Holy KJV N.T. say that: the ten commandments are the law of sin and death.

    Therefore:

    Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


    Therefore the above is the exactly the same as:

    The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the ten commandments.

    How much clearer must it be stated to appease you blundering foolish people who corruptly promote that the ten commandments are a part of Christianity?

    You guys (who even in the least manner), esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, are all made and kept spiritually dead and deprived of communion with the Spirit of Jesus, (who since 2000 odd years age, is the Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians). The physical Jesus was and is, not the Lord.

    Also, all of you who, even in the least manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, (all) sin and (all) fall short of the glory of God.

    You guys are, all, dragging yourselves to hell. You are all totally depriving yourselves, by your own free choice, of joining Jesus in heaven. The path to joining Jesus in heaven is to soweth to Spirit while you physically live on earth. To soweth to Spirit is to 'serve in the newness of spirit'.

    'To serve in the newness of spirit' is to discern the Spirit of Jesus (Who is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession) within your own heart/spirit. This require you to be spiritually awaken/spiritually aware (i.e. awakened to/aware of, your own heart/spirit).

    The sad fact is that, if you esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the littlest manner, you are make and kept totally dead to your own heart/spirit. This means that your heart/spirit is 'waxed gross' (i.e. covered-over). This means that you cannot have communion with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession (who can be accessed only through one's heart/spirit).

    Therefore 'to serve in the newness of spirit' is addressed only to those who can in fact, 'serve in the newness of spirit'. 'To serve in the newness of spirit' is the instruction to newly and even old, spiritually awakened/spiritually aware people. These are 'born again' people. These instruction are not for 'the dead' (i.e. one who is still 'dead' to his/her own heart/spirit. The dead, because of their their carnal nature will discern wisdom in the ten commandments.

    Therefore the first requirement for 'serving in the newness of spirit' is to be awakened to and aware of one's own heart/spirit. The sad fact is that being under the ten commandments deprives one of this actualization. Therefore, the actual first requirement is to drop the ten commandments.

    Then one can awaken to and become aware of one's own heart/spirit. Only then can one 'serve in the newness of spirit'.

    Serving in the newness of spirit' is not simply to led by one's own spirit. This is anchored in the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus enables one to very freely and liberally serve one's own spirit/heart in perfect harmony with the real time, will of God.

    The above is achieved when one search one's own heart and discern and commune with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession within one's own heart/spirit (i.e. when it is no longer 'waxed gross'). More precisely, one must search one's own heart/spirit and discern (in real time, all the time), so as to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, in real time all the time.

    It has been clearly stated that since, 2000 odd years ago, the Lord is the Spirit of Jesus who s also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession:

    2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
    17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


    'Serving in the newness of spirit' is how one enables the Lord who since 2000 odd years ago is the Spirit of Jesus to be one's Lord. Since 2000 odd years ago, the Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians, is the Spirit of Jesus and not at all the physical Jesus or Moses or the ten commandments, etc.. This is the essential, basis of the new covenant/New Testament. It is all and totally spirit and Spirit based.

    The ideas of 'serving in the newness of spirit' is about serving through one's own heart/spirit. This is as follows:

    To reiterate, in order to 'serve in the newness of spirit' one must embrace the Spirit of Jesus who is the Lord, since 2000 odd years ago. The first step is to abandon the ten commandments so as to become awakened to and aware of one's own heart/spirit. Then one one must search one's own heart/spirit and discern the Spirit of Jesus (who is also the Spirit of Truth).

    We are told that Jesus is the truth, the way and the life:

    John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


    Therefore the Spirit of Truth is the Spirit of Jesus.

    We are told, also that:

    1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
    35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
    44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
    47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.


    The above tell us that after the crucifixion of the physical body of Jesus, He shed that physical body and rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body. Jesus clad only in His Spirit body is the Spirit of Jesus. And since 2000 odd years ago, in this (Spirit only) format Jesus is Lord who resides in spirit heaven. And in this format and from spirit heaven, as the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, Jesus is the Lord for Christians. Since 2000 odd years ago we were told that the physical Jesus was redundant.

    Further to this we are told through John, that, the Spirit of Truth bring 'All Truth'. It is also confirmed that the physical Jesus had to be crucified and be risen to spirit heaven (clad only in His Spirit body), three day after, in order for the Spirit of Truth to become available to provide All Truth:

    John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
    7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
    12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
    13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


    The above say that, Jesus in His second coming among those people, is not physical, It is as a Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth Who is actually the Spirit of Jesus. Jesus told his disciples in a very private session among only them that, it was expedient that he go away (by crucifixion and rise to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body), so that Spirit of Truth will come (i.e. be made available to those people.

    We are also told that the kingdom of God is within us:

    Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
    20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
    21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.


    We are told that Jesus rose to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit real in three day after he was crucified. We are told also that Jesus rose to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body, as the Spirit of Jesus. We are told that God's kingdom of heaven is within.

    Therefore to find Jesus, to commune with, to know Jesus, to be known to Jesus, to be informed by and to be led by, Jesus, one is instructed to search one's own heart/spirit so as to come to know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do:

    Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
    26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
    27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


    In the above the 'Spirit' Who make intercession is the Spirit of Jesus, Who is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession. This is because no one come onto God, (Who is the Holy Spirit) unless one goes through Jesus and Jesus is only in a Spirit format since 2000 odd years ago. And in this Spirit only format and from God's kingdom of heaven that is within us this Spirit of Jesus is our Lord since 2000 odd years ago.

    Therefore the entire system of Christianity is anchored on only the Spirit of Jesus who must be known and communed with (in real time, all the time) only through our own hearts/spirits. Jesus is the truth therefore His Spirit is the Spirit of Truth. We are told that the Spirit of Truth bring "All Truth". This tells us that no truth is available though physically spoken and physically written words.

    The written scriptures and all physically spoken and physically posted words can be used only to convey the above message. This message is that in order to become a child of God/a Saint/a Christians one has to get all one's information directly from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth though one's own hearts/spirits.

    Billions of deceived people are esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting written scriptures, as their source of truth. They are doing this under the false beliefs that this can make them Christians. They are under the mass deception, which for the past 2000 odd yeas have been perpetrated on them, by foolish, unawares, false prophets. They are under mass deception that they are Christians. They are not in the body of Christ and their assembly is not the body of Christ.

    Billions of people foolishly and falsely believe that they are Christians. They are not N.T./spirit and Spirit/anti-the ten commandments/Christian/Jesus people. They have been duped onto being O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people.

    Christianity is totally a spiritual tradition. Christians/children of God cannot and do not use any physically spoken words, physically written words or physical post, period.

    Christians get all their guiding instructions and information, intuitively/spiritually, in real time, all the time, (as needed) directly and individually from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth, through each of their own hearts/spirit.

    Precisely what Christians/children of God do is to search each of their own hearts/spirits, in real time, all the time, to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do (in real time, all the time). Then, they simply and unconditionally obey this information and instruction, in real time, all the time, even if they have to transgress the ten commandments. This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. This is also how one 'serves in the newness of spirit'.

    Of course in order to have the actualization to do the above (i.e. to live in this Christian way), one must first be awakened to/aware of, one's own heart/spirit. If one esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner, one is make and kept spiritually dead and one cannot even attempt to have the above life, which is the only Christian life.

    Fact is, a spiritually dead person (i.e. 'the dead' in Jesus' instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead') cannot perceived this Christian life which is totally spirit and Spirit based. In order to perceive this spirit and Spirit based life style on must have the 'eyes to see' 'the ears to hear' and the 'hearts to understand'.

    The above are extra physical faculties. These are faculties of our spirit body and they operate intuitively (beyond our physical senses). In order for these faculties to be actualized and functional, one must be awakened to one's own heart/spirit. Those who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are made and kept 'dead' to their own hearts/spirits. They simply do not have the 'eyes to see' 'the ears to hear' and the 'hearts to understand'. They are doomed from the start. They cannot be Christians.

    By nature, the dead, will discern wisdom in the ten commandments, as their righteousness. They are Satans. They cannot rise to things of God which are spiritual and not physical and of man.

    'The dead' (who are also called Satans) will never come around to Christianity which is totally anti-the ten commandments and totally spirit and Spirit based with God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments.

    Billions of these people foolishly believe and argue that the ten commandments are a part of Christianity. Clearly they cannot be and are not, the chosen few who found the straight gate and narrow way:

    Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For many are called, but few are chosen.


    The above say that the requirements to be among the chosen few Christians is very very tight. From among billions, only a chosen few can and will make it. There is no room to believe, esteem, invoke and/or promote, even a little bit of foolishness/error and still be chosen. Fact is, the gate is straight and the way narrow.

    Billions of foolish ideas abound every where, as Christianity.

    A billion or so traditional Christians and a billion or so Catholics all share the basic ideas about Christianity. They also, all believe that they are Christians/children of God. Clearly they cannot be the chosen few who have found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life, Christianity and delivery to God's kingdom of heaven.

    Clearly it time for a billion or so traditional Christians and a billion or so Catholics to wake-up from the very serious and terminal folly/deception which they hold to be Christianity. It is time for them to awaken to the truth that their most prized leaders were and continue to be false prophets and unawares, false spying brethren.

    Primarily, it is time to accept that Jesus' words when He identified Peter to be Satan.

    More precisely, it is time to stop 'going with' (supporting) the self-made-up ideas of Peter/Satan and Co. which seek to deny and explain-away Jesus' clear and actual words about Peter.

    Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
    22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
    23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
    24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.


    You guys are so used to corrupting the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. simply to have them force-fit the ideas of Satan/Peter, his popes and your own selves. This totally deny all of you, access to truth in the Holy KJV N.T.

    Satan/Peter and his succession of popes are responsible for the ideas which anchor what has passed for Christianity for the past 2000 odd years and this is all, Anti-the Holy KJV N.T., corruption and foolishness.

    . . . and so be it.
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    How does one identify the Spirit of Jesus within our own heart/spirit?

    We are told to search each of own hearts/spirits and discern the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, within each of our own hearts/spirits.

    Then be led into all of our works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of to know, pray for, say and do, even if we have to transgress the ten commandments.

    The above defines the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and under this law one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments.

    Therefore what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do will not involve upholding the ten commandments. In fact what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do (as discerned with each of our own hearts/spirits), will require one to transgress the ten commandments.

    The question is, apart from requiring one to transgress the ten commandments, How does one identify the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, within each of our own heart/spirit?

    Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


    The above say that, the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus makes one free for the ten commandments.
    We are also told the following:

    Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
    26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
    27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


    In the above the 'Spirit' Who make intercession is the Spirit of Jesus, Who is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession. This is because no one come onto God, (Who is the Holy Spirit) unless one goes through Jesus and Jesus is only in a Spirit format since 2000 odd years ago. And in this Spirit only format and from God's kingdom of heaven that is within us this Spirit of Jesus is our Lord since 2000 odd years ago.

    Therefore the entire system of Christianity is anchored on only the Spirit of Jesus who must be known and communed with (in real time, all the time) only through our own hearts/spirits, by searching each of our own hearts/spirits.

    The question is, precisely what is it that Christians/children of God do that makes them Christians/children of God/Saints?

    Fact is their lifestyle is anchored on is to searching each of their own hearts/spirits, in real time, all the time, to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do (in real time, all the time). Then, they simply and unconditionally obey this information and instruction, in real time, all the time, even if they have to transgress the ten commandments. This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. This is also how one 'serves in the newness of spirit'.

    Of course in order to have the actualization to do the above (i.e. to live in this Christian way), one must first be awakened to/aware of, one's own heart/spirit. If one esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner, one is make and kept spiritually dead and one cannot even attempt to have the above life, which is the only Christian life.

    The next most important question is, according to the Holy KJV N.T., precisely how does one one identify and recognized the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession within one's own heart/spirit?

    This will be answered, here, very precisely, in a short while.
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