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    Who is the best president in your lifetime?

    Here's what Americans think:



    Obama is the clear favorite. A little surprising that Trump did as well as he did.
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    This is really sad from a liberty perspective.
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    This is really sad from a liberty perspective.
    I believe that Trump is the only one on the list who's actually come out in favor of setting due process aside.

    Do you know of another one?
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    i like ike


    and his veep

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Here's what Americans think:



    Obama is the clear favorite. A little surprising that Trump did as well as he did.
    they SHOULD HAVE ASKED ONLY PERSONS WHO WERE AT LEST 80 YEARS OLD, SO THEY MIGHT KNOW ABOUT ROOSEVELT. ALL THIS SHOWS IS HOW YOUNG THEY WERE
    So, what?

    believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    This is really sad from a liberty perspective.
    SAD FOR A YOUNG PUNK PERSPECTIVE.
    So, what?

    believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktoyou View Post
    they SHOULD HAVE ASKED ONLY PERSONS WHO WERE AT LEST 80 YEARS OLD, SO THEY MIGHT KNOW ABOUT ROOSEVELT. ALL THIS SHOWS IS HOW YOUNG THEY WERE
    True, but we do have accurate books on deeds, what was said by them etc....
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I believe that Trump is the only one on the list who's actually come out in favor of setting due process aside.

    Do you know of another one?
    Not off the top of my head....but almost everyone of these had some war they were fighting, whether in their head or real
    Even in the very best of situations, voting is still an unmitigated failure. The fact that any simple majority of individuals (mob) can determine an outcome that adversely affects the minority (mob rule) is against all natural rights. In the United State today, all who vote harm others so that they might benefit. By voting, they are also sanctioning theft of private property at the point of a gun, and the redistribution of that property to those who did not earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    True, but we do have accurate books on deeds, what was said by them etc....
    ROOSEVELT WOULD BEST THEM ALL OUT ASKING PEOPLE OVER THE LAST 100 YEARS
    So, what?

    believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktoyou View Post
    they SHOULD HAVE ASKED ONLY PERSONS WHO WERE AT LEST 80 YEARS OLD, SO THEY MIGHT KNOW ABOUT ROOSEVELT. ALL THIS SHOWS IS HOW YOUNG THEY WERE
    I suppose Roosevelt would have been much higher in their regard, but of course, few Americans remember Roosevelt. It's worth noting that Reagan considered Roosevelt the best president in his lifetime.
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    Not off the top of my head....but almost everyone of these had some war they were fighting, whether in their head or real
    Pretty much. We're good at it. We stay prepared for it. And as Napoleon said, you can do almost anything with a bayonet, except sit on it.
    Last edited by The Barbarian; July 12th, 2018 at 07:01 AM.
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    I would agree with that list ... though I would have thought Roosevelt would have been higher and am surprised Trump is even on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktoyou View Post
    they SHOULD HAVE ASKED ONLY PERSONS WHO WERE AT LEST 80 YEARS OLD, SO THEY MIGHT KNOW ABOUT ROOSEVELT. ALL THIS SHOWS IS HOW YOUNG THEY WERE
    I'm close, 72, so I missed FDR. He was clearly the best in the 1900's. In my lifetime---Obama. Trump is simply a disgrace.

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    two things come to mind - first, trump has been president for 17 months and came in fourth

    the top three served for 96 months each


    second, the kennedy mystique still lives - what's forgotten is the cuban missile fiasco, kennedy's penchant for whoring that set the stage for clinton, and the fact that the escalation in Vietnam started with JFK at a level never matched by LBJ

    judged by their accomplishments, JFK would be dead last and Nixon would be near the top

    bammy's failed presidency wouldn't even register

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktoyou View Post
    ROOSEVELT WOULD BEST THEM ALL OUT ASKING PEOPLE OVER THE LAST 100 YEARS
    What about you?

    Do you think his greatness was demonstrated when he tried to pack the Supreme Court?

    Do you think his greatness was demonstrated when he ordered the mass relocation and internment of some 110,000 Americans of Japanese ancestry during WW II?

    I am beginning to think that the left admires the Presidents who attack the civil rights of others.

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