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    Trump's Legacy Grows

    President Trump announced Monday night that Brett Kavanaugh, a federal appellate court judge based in Washington, D.C., is his pick to replace outgoing Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy ó a nominee who, if confirmed, will cement a conservative majority on the nationís highest court.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-set...154941631.html

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    Ben Shapiro:
    The role of the court, according to Justice Sonia Sotomayor, is to help expedite change in our society: "Our society would be strait-jacketed were not the courts, with the able assistance of the lawyers, constantly overhauling the law and adapting it to the realities of ever-changing social, industrial and political conditions." Justice Elena Kagan believes the same thing, which is why she constantly describes the Constitution as "abstract," leaving her room to interpret it as poetry rather than statute.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/b...hat-courts-are


    Kagan and Sotomayor are, of course, the two retarded liberal justices we're saddled with from the disastrous Obama presidency

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    I've seen several commentators say both the left and the right are prematurely panicking or rejoicing, that nothing at all may change re: Roe v. Wade because the Court relies so much on precedence. Time will tell.

    For some balance to Shapiro's commentary:

    Reversing Roe v. Wade Won’t Help Republicans
    Overturning the landmark 1973 ruling, as seems more and more likely, might take away a powerful tool for energizing conservative voters — and it might motivate liberal ones.



    And here's a link that provides some background on Kavanaugh - and while I'm still in the process of reading it, I got this far and saw what Trump probably knew when he nominated him:

    Article
    Separation of Powers During the Forty- Fourth Presidency and Beyond
    Brett M. Kavanaugh
    . . . .

    Based on my experience in the White House and the Justice Department, in the independent counsel’s office, in the judicial branch as a law clerk and now a judge, and as a teacher of separation of powers law, I have developed a few specific ideas for alleviating some of the problems we have seen arise over the last sixteen years. I believe these proposals would create a more effective and efficient federal government, consistent with the purposes of our Constitution as outlined in the Preamble.
    22 Fully justifying these ideas would require writing a book—and probably more than one. My goal in this forum is far more modest: to identify problems worthy of additional attention, sketch out some possible solutions, and call for further discussion.

    I. PROVIDE SITTING PRESIDENTS WITH A TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF CIVIL SUITS AND OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS AND INVESTIGATIONS

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    Brett Kavanaugh:

    "If confirmed to the D.C. Circuit, I would follow Roe v. Wade faithfully and fully. That would be binding precedent of the Court. It's been decided by the Supreme Court."


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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    I. PROVIDE SITTING PRESIDENTS WITH A TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF CIVIL SUITS AND OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS AND INVESTIGATIONS
    ^ This is why Trump chose Kavanaugh. He needs to make sure that the Supreme Court will side with him over any lawsuits and legal matters ... especially the Russia Investigation. This is on the same level of a defendant being allowed to pick the jurors and judge who will preside over their case.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
    - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, letter to Joshua F. Speed, August 22, 1855





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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    ^ This is why Trump chose Kavanaugh. He needs to make sure that the Supreme Court will side with him over any lawsuits and legal matters ... especially the Russia Investigation. This is on the same level of a defendant being allowed to pick the jurors and judge who will preside over their case.
    Yep. Also, I think it was NBC this morning who quoted a source as saying that prior to his resignation, negotiations had been going on for months between Kennedy and Trump. If corroborated, it would be a disturbing development.
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    Trump Has Made His Choice. Now Is The Time For Action.
    Charles Burris

    Trump has made his choice for the next Supreme Court nominee. Now is the time for action.

    It is imperative that the American people not acquiesce their grave responsibility but forcefully press their elected Senators and the news media to question and hold fully accountable this nominee for his viewpoint on vital national security issues such as the Constitutional power to declare war, Habeas Corpus, warrantless detention, warrantless surveillance, torture, rendition, national security letters, and the constitutionality of Continuity of Government (COG) and covert operations of the intelligence agencies.

    Does the judicial nominee hold that the Constitution established a federal decentralized compact or republic of sovereign independent states granting explicit delegated powers to the general government for specific purposes while retaining their reserved powers for themselves? Or does the United States simply pose as a sham elective democracy but is in fact a militarized despotism with actual power residing in the hands of a secret oligarchy that is arbitrary, capricious, and unaccountable, a tyranny lacking transparency, justice, or restraint?
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Trump Has Made His Choice. Now Is The Time For Action.
    Charles Burris

    Trump has made his choice for the next Supreme Court nominee. Now is the time for action.
    Kavenaugh has some libertarian tendencies (which do have conservatives concerned about him), but he also has some tendencies to favor the state over individual liberties:

    Libertarian-leaning Rep. Justin Amash (R*–Mich.) isn't happy with President Trump's choice of Brett Kavanaugh to replace Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy on the Supreme Court.

    The D.C. Circuit Court judge is not a staunch defender of Fourth Amendment protections that prevent improper searches and surveillance by the government, Amash said in a tweet:

    https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/09/b...sh-supreme-cou
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    NBC News White House Correspondent Geoff Bennett:

    "Source familiar tells NBC that Justice Kennedy had been in negotiations with the Trump team for months over Kennedy’s replacement. Once Kennedy received assurances that it would be Kavanaugh (his former law clerk) Kennedy felt comfortable retiring"




    And not forgetting:

    One person who knows both men remarked on the affinity between Mr. Trump and Justice Kennedy, which is not obvious at first glance. Justice Kennedy is bookish and abstract, while Mr. Trump is earthy and direct.

    But they had a connection, one Mr. Trump was quick to note in the moments after his first address to Congress in February 2017. As he made his way out of the chamber, Mr. Trump paused to chat with the justice.

    “Say hello to your boy,” Mr. Trump said. “Special guy.”

    Mr. Trump was apparently referring to Justice Kennedy’s son, Justin. The younger Mr. Kennedy spent more than a decade at Deutsche Bank, eventually rising to become the bank’s global head of real estate capital markets, and he worked closely with Mr. Trump when he was a real estate developer, according to two people with knowledge of his role.
    During Mr. Kennedy’s tenure, Deutsche Bank became Mr. Trump’s most important lender, dispensing well over $1 billion in loans to him for the renovation and construction of skyscrapers in New York and Chicago at a time other mainstream banks were wary of doing business with him because of his troubled business history.





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    Well, that explains a few things...

    Doesn't mean that his dad is ethically challenged, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Well, that explains a few things...

    Doesn't mean that his dad is ethically challenged, though.
    "The Kennedy, Kushner, and Trump Connection: A Curious Conversation and A Business Deal..."

    https://medium.com/@gaberusk/the-ken...l-c81dd578ce83

    "Here's the Corrupt Financial Web That Links the Trump and Kennedy Families..."

    https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...nnedy-families

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    Well, so Kennedy was trying to do a favor for someone he likes, and perhaps made a deal with Trump.

    The only thing that's suspicious about that scenario, is that Trump never keeps his agreements. If this turns out to be true, Kennedy would be the first guy who ever trusted Trump and didn't regret it later.

    I don't even know if this is illegal, but it kinda smells. Assuming Kennedy trusted Trump enough to do this, which seems unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Well, so Kennedy was trying to do a favor for someone he likes, and perhaps made a deal with Trump.

    The only thing that's suspicious about that scenario, is that Trump never keeps his agreements. If this turns out to be true, Kennedy would be the first guy who ever trusted Trump and didn't regret it later.

    I don't even know if this is illegal, but it kinda smells. Assuming Kennedy trusted Trump enough to do this, which seems unlikely.

    If Kennedy timed his resignation to be before the midterms and during Trump's tenure with an assurance from Trump that Kavenaugh would be his replacement, then any vote he makes on anything Trump-related brought before the court would be suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Ben Shapiro:
    The role of the court, according to Justice Sonia Sotomayor, is to help expedite change in our society: "Our society would be strait-jacketed were not the courts, with the able assistance of the lawyers, constantly overhauling the law and adapting it to the realities of ever-changing social, industrial and political conditions." Justice Elena Kagan believes the same thing, which is why she constantly describes the Constitution as "abstract," leaving her room to interpret it as poetry rather than statute.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/b...hat-courts-are
    Kagan and Sotomayor are, of course, the two retarded liberal justices we're saddled with from the disastrous Obama presidency
    Trump is restoring the greatness that the baby-killing Kenyan socialist pig tried to destroy.

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